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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/25/2007 10:23:38 PM

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Also if I don't wear panties I get whicked heat rashes and massive irritation between my thighs that litterally becomes a health issue, since the rubbing thighs and the friction will eventually make open sores. Panties absorb some of the moister I guess, I'm not really sure why but wearing panties means the ability to walk well and not get friction burns.

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That being said you could have met him half way and not worn the panties.

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/25/2007 10:25:10 PM

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I know my input in here doesn't count for the most part but I'm normally braless. I'm not as uh... endowed as the rest of ya'll.

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/27/2007 2:08:30 AM

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Greetings, All,

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He could have told you to wear a black dress, or high heels, or to be exactly on time, or to write a poem for him and stand up and read it after lunch, or any number of other things to do to see "if you could follow orders". But simply don't wear underwear? Puh-lease.

Yeah I agree here. Especially with her being so big up top. He should have thought better of this. I don't care how much blame falls on her, *he* should have been the leader and set a much better path for her to follow.

My question for her would be once you knew his request and did not want to follow it, why did you even go meet?

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/27/2007 2:35:46 AM

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My first meeting with a ex Dom was at his house (he was married wife was Dom also and there) I took a friend along. House rules for all females except the Dominas was no bras no panties no exceptions. I was not comfortable with this. But what he did that he never did with another was let that house rule slide with me ( funny he did things for me he had never done for any sub before)anyway, Since he did change his mind and take into account I was not comfortable with that. I was impressed. Showed he did acknowledge how I felt. I did go that day with no bra and panties. But I did it because well I'm not sure. I was told I didn't have too- it was no demand or order. It just felt ok to me to do then- I wanted too.

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/27/2007 11:26:25 AM

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I think that we should go with what feels right in such situations. If you were excited about it too, then fine. Since he was told that you were not, it was a strange thing to order/request/expect. If this was important to him and impossible for you, then I say no match there, and perhaps the meeting was unnessesary.

Just a thought, though... is it possible that the pain and embarassment were part of why he wanted you to do it? I realize that is still hardly first meeting stuff, but it is a thought.

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/27/2007 11:45:32 AM

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I have never understood the no panties, no bra on a first meet. Meeting someone for the first time, i have no idea if we are going to click or hit it off. When i have had requests for this, i just say no thats not gonna happen. Not on a first meet. Generally, the men have said.. "well you are no submissive" and we never met. A blessing in my book. Since I have had the rule of not doing anything on a first meet..why in the heck would it matter if i wore panties or not. And being rather large chested, going braless just doesn't work for me. Now there are times that my Dominant requests me to go pantiless and i will. I am not comfy with this, and he realizes that. So when he asks me, and i do it, he knows i am making an extra special effort to do something just for him. My problem is when I get around him, i get so wet, that I tend to leave wet marks on my clothes. Panties help soak up some of that wetness. I wear bras that are easy to pull to the side, and alot of vneck shirts so that access is never a problem for him. Sometimes you have to look at the practicality of things. Its winter and 20 below. I will ask him before we go out, skirt or jeans? Depending on what we are going to do, where we are going often has a factor in what he decides.

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/27/2007 11:57:03 AM

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I've also had guys demand that we have a first meeting, without me really even feeling like it's time for that. And then they tell me what to wear, and I don't even have anything in my wardrobe that meets that. I don't own any thongs or front closure bras. Most of my skirts come down at least to my knees. I do own stockings, both the kind that require garters and the kind that don't, and of course I own heels. If we've been talking for a while and there's enough chemistry that I want to meet you, I will do my best to dress in a way that you'll find pleasing. If you say, please wear a skirt and heels and have your hair in pigtails, I can do that. But you have to be willing to accept the limitations of my wardrobe. I've never had anyone request no bra, expect once, when Daddy and I were still first playing and he wanted me to come over, wearing no bra, no panties, a skirt and I forget what else. The entire Metro ride I had my arms crossed over my stomach under my breasts to support them. And I'm only a 36 C. If I were bigger I'd say "sorry, going braless in public is a hard limit for me." (not to say I fuck around with limits, but it would be, in terms of physical comfort and in terms of how incredibly self-conscious I'd feel)

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/27/2007 3:01:50 PM

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I love going braless. It feels natural and comfortable---I am a C cup and have always detested bras. I've never had to deal with boob sweat and no one has ever noticed if I am not wearing a bra. As a matter of fact, I'm nearing 40 and my boobs are still perky. Anyhow if going braless is demanded maybe hinting that he pay for a breast reduction might be a good idea.

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/27/2007 3:40:44 PM

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No i made it clear to him he just didn't believe I would refuse to ignore his orders. I have since figured out by thinking over the whole days event with him that he is an egotistical (sp?) moron that will never have another sub until he changes. I had decided by the end of the evening that i was not going to have anything more to do with him.

I do not think name calling assists. Reality is, if you knew he didn't believe you, then why did you even attend? Because you, yourself have an ego and wanted to proove a point.

Does a dominant have the right to insist on anything? Yes. And you have the right to refuse. In this above statement, you are indicating that he was misinformed and you were the one who went through with meeting, even though you knew he didn't believe you and you still went. I am not really sure if you are looking for validation that he was in the wrong or what. He wasn't in the wrong for asking or expecting... maybe just ill informed. But you should not have gone, knowing you would never fullfil his expectation.

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/27/2007 3:49:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyAnnabelleLee

I know my input in here doesn't count for the most part but I'm normally braless. I'm not as uh... endowed as the rest of ya'll.

ugh i have tiny tits and cant go for long periods [more than a day] w/o a bra before my nipples are red, sore and miserable.

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/27/2007 4:02:04 PM

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ugh i have tiny tits and cant go for long periods [more than a day] w/o a bra before my nipples are red, sore and miserable.

I agree. Before I had my children, I was an 36A cup and being braless hurt like hell. After children and many years later, my cup sized increased and I am now an 36E, and I find being braless not such a discomfort. When I do wear one, I do so for the look - underwear can be extremely beautiful with lace and silk - but I never do so for 'practical' reasons - I do so because he likes to see me dressed finely and sometimes provoctively. Sometimes, people speak like wearing a bra is a chore.

Even women like myself with larger and heavier breasts do not have to wear ugly 'boulder holders' in this day and age.

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/27/2007 4:48:36 PM

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this one's gonna open up a kettle here...
Maybe it WAS because of your size that he asked for no bra, knowing exactly what it would do to you, putting you in that bit of uncomfortable space... maybe that's where he wanted you to be.

this one has only had a couple of owners even ALLOW her to have panties (which she hates to begin with) or bras... and this one is a 44 DD+

this one agrees that one of a larger breast size may be a bit uncomforable, especially if you have large sensitive nipples, which this one does. <giggles> but her uncomfort isn't pain, and if it is a Master this one is very interested in, she would have done it without hesitation. the heck with what all the vanillas around you may think... you only have to worry about ONE... the Master who commanded you to do such. As long as he is pleased, why worry about the rest?

ada

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/27/2007 5:23:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: adanaydi

this one's gonna open up a kettle here...
Maybe it WAS because of your size that he asked for no bra, knowing exactly what it would do to you, putting you in that bit of uncomfortable space... maybe that's where he wanted you to be.

this one has only had a couple of owners even ALLOW her to have panties (which she hates to begin with) or bras... and this one is a 44 DD+

this one agrees that one of a larger breast size may be a bit uncomforable, especially if you have large sensitive nipples, which this one does. <giggles> but her uncomfort isn't pain, and if it is a Master this one is very interested in, she would have done it without hesitation. the heck with what all the vanillas around you may think... you only have to worry about ONE... the Master who commanded you to do such. As long as he is pleased, why worry about the rest?

ada

(laughing)..oh, you did just open up the kettle on this one..dont think it will be the most popular viewpoint...but then again, the popularity contest is down the hall take a left...

You make a very valid and interesting point.

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/27/2007 5:32:40 PM

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I haven't read all the way through the thread but I must be the strange one. I have large breasts (I wear a 44 or 46 DDD bra typically) and I prefer being braless. Especially after a long day but in general I'd rather wear a bra. Now for purposes of social decorum I always wear one when I go outside (well unless I'm running an errand where I'm dressed super shlubby and wearing layers and a coat so its not obvious). But I find it perfectly comfortable to not wear a bra.

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/28/2007 12:14:46 AM

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I doubt that C cups are big enough to lay flat against your skin either, if you were a 44 DD or more you'd sweat.

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ORIGINAL: Squeakers

I love going braless. It feels natural and comfortable---I am a C cup and have always detested bras. I've never had to deal with boob sweat and no one has ever noticed if I am not wearing a bra.

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/28/2007 12:18:12 AM

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To me it is a chore. I hate bra's, and no amount of lace or lil bows is going to make a 48 DD bra pretty. They still look like what that are giant boob holders. I refuse to wear underwire since they're worse than regular bra's in terms of comfort, but even underwire does not look pretty in my opinion once you reach the higher sizes.

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ORIGINAL: darkinshadows
Sometimes, people speak like wearing a bra is a chore.
Even women like myself with larger and heavier breasts do not have to wear ugly 'boulder holders' in this day and age.

Peace and Rapture

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/28/2007 12:44:25 AM

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"BooHoo...big bad dom asked me to do something i didn't want to."

I just love seeing women that profess they wish to be submissive or learn to be submissive and then squick when it comes to doing something rather simple and harmless in a public meeting...so this is not directed at you personally.

Topping from the bottom is the real deal here.

If it was agreed on beforehand yes you violated the terms of the prearrangement meeting agreement.

Braless, paintiless, high heels, skirt, yes those show the mindset of a possible candidate for training.

If she is not willing to listen to Me and something that she agreed to then I simply do not have time to invest on training her.

Let her go visit the dating personals of match or yahoo.

Frankly more women there know how to serve and please than a large majority that profess they have no limits or have the experience in the lifestyle...including collarme.

It is the mindset of the submissive...the intelligence...the thought process..the admission of the predetermined hiearachy...the anticipation..the nerveness looking around of who is noticing thesubmissive in her own mind.

If you don't like to go topless then spell it out in your profile...plain and simple.

Nothing more irriating than some "willing" subbie that has more restrictions than a little old ladies' driver license.

I have sent women to the restroom with a small paper bag that I have presented upon meeting in a public setting and told them to remove offending article and return with them in the bag.

Most are shock...some comply and later see why and enjoy the mindset and more.

So for those that say that "he is not my dom or master"...get a life...did you choose this lifestyle to find what you like or just find the empowerment you so seemingly lack?

Ever think that perhaps this is why you are still single and looking for someone that will put up with your nonsense?

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/28/2007 2:52:37 AM

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ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

To me it is a chore. I hate bra's, and no amount of lace or lil bows is going to make a 48 DD bra pretty. They still look like what that are giant boob holders. I refuse to wear underwire since they're worse than regular bra's in terms of comfort, but even underwire does not look pretty in my opinion once you reach the higher sizes.

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ORIGINAL: darkinshadows
Sometimes, people speak like wearing a bra is a chore.
Even women like myself with larger and heavier breasts do not have to wear ugly 'boulder holders' in this day and age.

Peace and Rapture

It is all about perception.

Some males - and women - do not like smaller breasts. The larger the better. To say that a breast looks ugly in a bra if your anything over, say a C cup is ludicrous and insulting to women with larger chest sizes. Bras can and do look attractive on the fuller figure when you know how to wear them. If you have a problem with the way your breasts or any breast over a DD looks in a beautiful hand stitched bra, or even one purchased from a local store that is well shaped, I would suggest that is more a self image problem, or personal preference to an actual FACT that they are 'ugly'.

And not all people with large breasts sweat under them, I do not (unless I have been doing extreme exercising) as everyones body chemistry is different. And besides, there are people out there with intense sweat fetishes... I hardly think they would mind at all...

Peace and Rapture

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/28/2007 7:49:12 AM

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Ever think that perhaps this is why you are still single and looking for someone that will put up with your nonsense?

Hmmm....and I believe from reading your profile that you are single?

Have you noticed that most of the submissives that have said that it is inappropriate for a Dom to give directions to a sub that doesn't belong to him.....are in functioning relationships?

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RE: Doms requiring us to be braless - 3/28/2007 8:17:12 AM

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Sir Discipliner,

We are talking about a first meet here. I personally do not submit to someone i do not know. That is the way i choose to handle my life. As many other submissives on here have said, it is not expected to submit to someone you don't know. I do think the OP should have told him straight out that she wasn't going to comply with him. One important thing to remember is that there are all different kinds of submissives and doms out there. So if you want a girl who is going to go braless and pantiless for you on a first meet, i am sure you can find that. But i see nothing wrong with a girl saying that she is not willing to do that on a first meet. I don't think it makes someone anyless submissive. Anyone can call themselves a dominant. If that was a rule of a prospective dominant, then he wouldn't be the one for me, and Im perfectly fine with that.

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