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RE: "Financial Domination" - 4/15/2007 2:31:48 PM   
bandit25


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RE: "Financial Domination" - 4/15/2007 3:20:10 PM   
Stranger1


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RE: "Financial Domination" - 4/15/2007 3:28:22 PM   
NakedGirlScout


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Status: offline 		I tried financial domination once with a boy as my sub. I never used any of the money for myself, I simply controlled his spending. I did the daily and monthly budgetting and he got an allowance to use for treats for himself. Anything else he had to ask me to use. The only gifts I would accept were the hand-made variety, even if he had spent some money on the materials he was not allowed to purchase the gift. He was in terrible financial difficulty because he was chaotic and irresponsible with money, and he was grateful for the practical aspects my control gave as well as the emotional benefits.

If it's this sort of financial domination, then does it count as Financial Domination, or does it have to mean that the sub is giving money or "tributes" to the dom/me? Could anyone say this form of it was a bad thing for either party?

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RE: "Financial Domination" - 4/15/2007 4:54:43 PM   
openmindedslave


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Status: offline 		Well somebody must be into it ? look at all the new people joining  collarme ort the ones that are now contacting subs/slaves for long distance domination requiring money for play. And in some sort of way, from another message board question here concerning servicing with out need for sex, really whats the differerance.
If you gamble  for fun , should they stop gambling because of  people gambling who can't help themselves
Should they stop selling beer , because some people  become addicted? ,Same goes for  paying money out to  feel  closer to hotter woman who would n't give you time of day.Or to pay someone who you have thoughts and fantasys that most woman you have meet would be turned off by.  It's not my interest here, but  just take a look at how many are on this site saying their a prodom within the first 10 words. Is it right that they fullfill subs/slaves needs and get paid for it ?  Most are not doing financial domination on a weekly or monthly bases, but I bet if you wanted it , they would do it . And really why is that any differnt than guys who like to be treated as sissys and be told to suck off  strangers because  the Dom says so? Or being told to play  on a cam , not knowing if they will use it againest you latter on in black mail?  I mean really what is really different about this than some of the other fantasys out here .

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RE: "Financial Domination" - 4/15/2007 5:40:35 PM   
MariaB


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quote:

ORIGINAL: flyingspoon

Buying someone underwear, a nightie, a bunch of flowers, etc are all fine. Wanting money is never ok. If it's a sub wants one to control his/her money, it's creepy, but I think doms have a responsibility not to take advantage, otherwise it cheapens the whole experience. Eeeeew.


I agree with some of what you say but what about a pro Mistress

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RE: "Financial Domination" - 4/15/2007 7:04:26 PM   
BayouSub


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I tried financial domination once with a boy as my sub. I never used any of the money for myself, I simply controlled his spending. I did the daily and monthly budgetting and he got an allowance to use for treats for himself. Anything else he had to ask me to use. The only gifts I would accept were the hand-made variety, even if he had spent some money on the materials he was not allowed to purchase the gift. He was in terrible financial difficulty because he was chaotic and irresponsible with money, and he was grateful for the practical aspects my control gave as well as the emotional benefits.

--NakedGirlScout


I think what you did was both honorable and praise worthy.  Your sub was fortunate to find someone as ethical as you to help him with his finances and I'm sure he enjoyed submitting to your authority in that area as in others.  In many marriages, the wife controls the spending and gives the husband an allowance so what you did is not all that out there.   But this area is fraught with danger.  In a trusting consensual relationship, controlling how a sub spends his money has legitimacy but this is quite different from taking a sub's money as a way of dominating him or her.

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RE: "Financial Domination" - 4/15/2007 7:15:04 PM   
MySweetSubmssive


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Status: offline 		This is a wonderful thread.  Thank you to those who talked about positive examples of financial domination, particularly Elorin and NakedGirlScout.  When consensual and within the context of other types of D/s (i.e. I might feel uncomfortable with only financial domination), it's pretty exciting and intimate.

MSS

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RE: "Financial Domination" - 4/15/2007 7:38:36 PM   
BayouSub


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quote:

This is a wonderful thread.  Thank you to those who talked about positive examples of financial domination, particularly Elorin and NakedGirlScout.  When consensual and within the context of other types of D/s (i.e. I might feel uncomfortable with only financial domination), it's pretty exciting and intimate.

MSS


Without being at all judgmental, I want to make it clear that I don't consider what Elorin does to be the equivalent to what NakedGirlScout did.  NakedGirlScout controlled a sub's spending without taking his money.  As I understand it, Elorin takes her sub's money.  Big difference.  Again, I'm making no judgment about what a consenting adult does with his money.

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RE: "Financial Domination" - 4/15/2007 7:44:39 PM   
openmindedslave


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Status: offline 		Think about this as another view.Most subs/slaves want to see their doms happy if their sincere. Some Doms want their homes cleaned and are looking for service slaves.This might even get a male to dress as a sissy which means they  will go out shopping  to dress a certain way or to appear  a certain way.  because it makes the sub happy being free and to give back to the dom because it brings joy to them
Another slave is into  pain and likes to be tied up and beaten .If a  Mistress wanted  you to beat you while on attached to a st andrews cross and she didn't have one and you could afford it , would you try to build one  for her or buy one , if you couldn't because you knew that was so importain to both of you- If you were sincere and felt a connection with her you might very well do it
A powerful Mistress who seems to understand you and appreciates your  situation of  no public play , says she will dom you but she needs to feel a real connect with you that lingers far after you leave her to go back to your vanilla world. So she demands that you become a financial whore.You tells you that youe money will go to toys and her comfort.That every month she will have a new pair of shoes on the money you give her.If you have a foot or she fetish, would this be so bad  knowing that the closet in ther home was filled with your gifts?

Financial doming has many views and differnt levels of domination? And I will bet you most slaves/subs to this don't stay  with their Doms any longer on the average than those who don't particiapate .I would be interested
in others views on this

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RE: "Financial Domination" - 4/15/2007 10:14:02 PM   
corsetgirl


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Status: offline 		When I was married to my ex husband, there was financial domination because I allowed it, considering I felt he could manage the finances better.  Although this was a vanilla marriage, I was wrong to allow him to take that control because most of the money was spent on his partying and not attending to the needs of his family. 

I have learned my lesson and will never allow anybody, let alone a dom, try to control my finances.  He can control anything else but the money I have earned will be with me!

< Message edited by corsetgirl -- 4/15/2007 10:15:07 PM >

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RE: "Financial Domination" - 4/22/2007 8:08:37 PM   
Elorin


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BayouSub
Without being at all judgmental, I want to make it clear that I don't consider what Elorin does to be the equivalent to what NakedGirlScout did.  NakedGirlScout controlled a sub's spending without taking his money.  As I understand it, Elorin takes her sub's money.  Big difference.  Again, I'm making no judgment about what a consenting adult does with his money.

Yes, the forms described are certainly different. And yes, I have accepted money from submissives before, and my slave currently sends something to me every week. That is his choice and fetish. He started out as a professional client of mine, but if he decided to end the financial aspect I would still keep him as a slave.

And yes, I think that is very different from telling someone how he/she can spend their money and providing structure and control of spending w/out receiving cash. I'm just as willing to do that, though I haven't been asked in the past. Most of my subs have been fairly solvent and had no problems managing their money.

~E

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RE: "Financial Domination" - 4/25/2007 1:57:15 PM   
MistressBJis4u


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Status: offline 		openminded, as with anything there are always those who can take things to all different levels, the big thing is, what may not seem 'healthy' to many is acceptable to some. every fetish and lifestly is a vortex with an endless bottom. what each submissive needs to asess before jumping in is how far they feel comfortable diving in, especially if one is talking financial domination. theives come in many disguises and one whos need is domination of monitary needs really need to think and give themselves a limit

just one persons opinion, one who has a few financial slaves who are very well taken care of

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RE: "Financial Domination" - 4/28/2007 4:59:14 PM   
PenetratingGaze


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Status: offline 		I personally suck at finances, Mistress is good at them. I have ideas and get info on things, and Mistress decides if it is in our best interests to invest or buy. Kinda vanilla, sure; but, also, kinda financial domination. Depends on how far it goes. Mistress orders me, to buy things for Her Divine Self and I do. I also am allowed to spend acertain portion on myself. Truth be told, I often spend it on Her, because that makes me happy. I guess though that a lot of 'nilla couples are the same.

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RE: "Financial Domination" - 4/29/2007 6:09:00 AM   
shynewboy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

Financial domination is a means to control. It seems to be very much a Fem Dom/male sub kink.


Well, if its male dom/f sub, I suppose it just falls under the label 'traditional' and nobodys bothered to make a new name for it.

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RE: "Financial Domination" - 4/29/2007 6:41:11 AM   
igor2003


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Status: offline 		Actual financial domination, in and of itself, can be a good thing if the Domme is wanting to control your finances and not TAKE your finances.  Personally, if i am in a long-term relationship with a Domme that i know well and can trust, then i would have no problem what-so-ever about giving her complete control over the finances.

Unfortunately, all too often what i see in the various profiles is that when they say they are into "financial domination" they usually will put somewhere else that they are expecting expensive "gifts", tributes (there is that ugly word again) and other similar terms and remarks.  Many even go so far as to say that they are actually TRYING to empty your wallet and ruin you financially.  This tends to give the idea of "financial domination" a really bad reputation.  Any more, if i even see the term "financial domination" mentioned in a profile i just go on to the next profile.

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RE: "Financial Domination" - 4/30/2007 6:44:42 PM   
Elorin


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ORIGINAL: igor2003
Many even go so far as to say that they are actually TRYING to empty your wallet and ruin you financially.

That is part of the fetish for some of the money domination subs.

quote:

  This tends to give the idea of "financial domination" a really bad reputation.  Any more, if i even see the term "financial domination" mentioned in a profile i just go on to the next profile.

I'm sure for those w/out the fetish it gives it a bad reputation, but it is similar to a humiliation sub wanting to be told they are going to be made into a public toilet for anyone to use. Truth is that only a limited few might ever use the sub as a toilet, but the hyperbole is part of the fetish.

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RE: "Financial Domination" - 4/30/2007 6:56:33 PM   
forcemarch


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Status: offline 		I prefer to drive down an old country road, whip out my hard earned cash and burn it, at least I can enjoy the scenery. 

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