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How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/21/2007 1:32:55 PM   
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How many Republican scandals can you name?

The Political Party of Scandals
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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/21/2007 6:33:44 PM   
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One of my best friends recently dated a republican. They ended up having it out over politics... and she told me that I should have reminded her that "Friends don't let friends date republicans"...lol

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/21/2007 6:49:02 PM   
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If the GOP is the "Party of Scandals"

What should we call the Democrats?

William Jefferson Clinton- Impeached by the House of Representatives over allegations of perjury and obstruction of justice, but acquitted by the Senate. Scandals include Whitewater - Travelgate Gennifer Flowersgate - Filegate - Vince Fostergate - Whitewater Billing Recordsgate - Paula Jonesgate- Lincoln Bedroomgate - Donations from Convicted Drug and Weapons Dealersgate - Lippogate - Chinagate - The Lewinsky Affair - Perjury and Jobs for Lewinskygate - Kathleen Willeygate - Web Hubbell Prison Phone Callgate - Selling Military Technology to the Chinesegate - Jaunita Broaddrick Gate - Lootergate - Pardongate
Edward Moore Kennedy - Democrat - U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne.
Barney Frank - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1981 to present. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. A move to expel Frank from the House of Representatives failed and a motion to censure him failed.
DNC - The Federal Election Commission imposed $719,000 in fines against participants in the 1996 Democratic Party fundraising scandals involving contributions from China, Korea and other foreign sources. The Federal Election Commission said it decided to drop cases against contributors of more than $3 million in illegal DNC contributions because the respondents left the country or the corporations are defunct.
Sandy Berger - Democrat - National Security Advisor during the Clinton Administration. Berger became the focus of a criminal investigation after removing highly classified terrorism documents and handwritten notes from the National Archives during preparations for the Sept. 11 commission hearings.
Robert Torricelli - Democrat - Withdrew from the 2002 Senate race with less than 30 days before the election because of controversy over personal gifts he took from a major campaign donor and questions about campaign donations from 1996.
James McGreevey - Democrat - New Jersey Governor . Admitted to having a gay affair. Resigned after allegations of sexual harassment, rumors of being blackmailed on top of fundraising investigations and indictments.
Jesse Jackson - Democrat - Democratic candidate for President. Admitted to having an extramarital affair and fathering a illegitimate child.
Gary Condit - Democrat - US Democratic Congressman from California. Condit had an affair with an intern. Condit, covered up the affair and lied to police after she went missing. No charges were ever filed against Condit. Her remains were discovered in a Washington DC park..
Sowande Ajumoke Omokunde - Democrat - the son of newly elected U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore, was booked on charges of criminal damage to property for allegedly slashing tires on 20 vans and cars rented by the Republican Party for use in Election Day voter turnout efforts.
Daniel David Rostenkowski - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1959 to 1995. Indicted on 17 felony charges- pleaded guilty to two counts of misuse of public funds and sentenced to seventeen months in federal prison.
Melvin Jay Reynolds - U.S. Representative from Illinois from 1993 to 1995. Convicted on sexual misconduct and obstruction of justice charges and sentenced to five years in prison.
Charles Coles Diggs, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Michigan from 1955 to 1980. Convicted on eleven counts of mail fraud and filing false payroll forms- sentenced to three years in prison.
George Rogers - Democrat - Massachusetts State House of Representatives from 1965 to 1970. M000ember of Massachusetts State Senate from 1975 to 1978. Convicted of bribery in 1978 and sentenced to two years in prison.
Don Siegelman - Democrat Governor Alabama - indicted in a bid-rigging scheme involving a maternity-care program. The charges accused Siegelman and his former chief of staff of helping Tuscaloosa physician Phillip Bobo rig bids. Siegelman was accused of moving $550,000 from the state education budget to the State Fire College in Tuscaloosa so Bobo could use the money to pay off a competitor for a state contract for maternity care.
John Murtha, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania. Implicated in the Abscam sting, in which FBI agents impersonating Arab businessmen offered bribes to political figures; Murtha was cited as an unindicted co-conspirator
Gerry Eastman Studds - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1973 to 1997. The first openly gay member of Congress. Censured by the House of Representatives for having sexual relations with a teenage House page.
James C. Green - Democrat - North Carolina State House of Representatives from 1961 to 1977. Charged with accepting a bribe from an undercover FBI agent, but was acquitted. Convicted of tax evasion in 1997.
Frederick Richmond - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1975 to 1982. Arrested in Washington, D.C., in 1978 for soliciting sex from a minor and from an undercover police officer - pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. Also - charged with tax evasion, marijuana possession, and improper payments to a federal employee - pleaded guilty.
Raymond Lederer - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1977 to 1981. Implicated in the Abscam sting - convicted of bribery and sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000.
Harrison Arlington Williams, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Senator from New Jersey from 1959 to 1970. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Allegedly accepted an 18% interest in a titanium mine. Convicted of nine counts of bribery, conspiracy, receiving an unlawful gratuity, conflict of interest, and interstate travel in aid of racketeering. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $50,000.
Frank Thompson, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New Jersey from 1955 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting, convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges. Sentenced to three years in prison
Michael Joseph Myers - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1976 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting - convicted of bribery and conspiracy; sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000; expelled from the House of Representatives on October 2, 1980.
John Michael Murphy - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1963 to 1981. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted of conspiracy, conflict of interest, and accepting an illegal gratuity. Sentenced to three years in prison and fined $20,000.
John Wilson Jenrette, Jr - Democrat - U.S. Representative from South Carolina from 1975 to 1980. Implicated in the Abscam sting. Convicted on bribery and conspiracy charges and sentenced to prison
Neil Goldschmidt - Democrat - Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland.
Alcee Lamar Hastings - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Florida. Impeached and removed from office as federal judge in 1989 over bribery charges.
Marion Barry - Democrat - mayor of Washington, D.C., from 1979 to 1991 and again from 1995 to 1999. Convicted of cocaine possession after being caught on videotape smoking crack cocaine. Sentenced to six months in prison.
Mario Biaggi - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New York from 1969 to 1988. Indicted on federal charges that he had accepted bribes in return for influence on federal contracts.Convicted of obstructing justice and accepting illegal gratuities. Tried in 1988 on federal racketeering charges and convicted on 15 felony counts.
Lee Alexander - Democrat - Mayor of Syracuse, N.Y. from 1970 to 1985. Was indicted over a $1.5 million kickback scandal. Pleaded guilty to racketeering and tax evasion charges. Served six years in prison.
Bill Campbell - Democrat - Mayor of Atlanta. Indicted and charged with fraud over claims he accepted improper payments from contractors seeking city contracts.
Frank Ballance - Democrat - Congressman North Carolina. Pleaded guilty to one charge of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and money laundering related to mishandling of money by his charitable foundation.
Hazel O'Leary - Democrat - Secretary of Energy during the Clinton Administration - O'leary took trips all over the world as Secretary with as many 50 staff members and at times rented a plane, which was used by Madonna during her concert tours.
Lafayette Thomas - Democrat - Candidate for Tennessee State House of Representatives in 1954. Sheriff of Davidson County, from 1972 to 1990. Indicted in federal court on 54 counts of abusing his power as sheriff. Pleaded guilty to theft and mail fraud; sentenced to five years in prison.
Mary Rose Oakar - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Ohio from 1977 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor charges of funneling $16,000 through fake donors.
David Giles - Democrat - candidate for U.S. Representative from Washington in 1986 and 1990. Convicted in June 2000 of child rape.
Gary Siplin - Democrat state senator Florida- found guilty of third-degree grand theft of $5,000 or more, a felony, and using services of employees for his candidacy.
Edward Mezvinsky - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Iowa from 1973 to 1977. Indicted on 56 federal fraud charges.
Lena Swanson - Democrat - Member of Washington State Senate in 1997. Pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting unlawful payments from veterans and former prisoners of war.
Abraham J. Hirschfeld - Democrat - candidate in Democratic primary for U.S. Senator from New York in 1974 and 1976. Offered Paula Jones $1 million to drop her sexual harassment lawsuit against President Bill Clinton. Convicted in 2000 of trying to hire a hit man to kill his business partner.
Henry Cisneros - Democrat - U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development from 1993 to 1997. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of lying to the FBI.
James A. Traficant Jr. - Member of House of Representatives from Ohio. Expelled from Congress after being convicted of corruption charges. Sentenced today to eight years in prison for accepting bribes and kickbacks.
John Doug Hays - Democrat - member of Kentucky State Senate from 1980 to 1982 Found guilty of mail fraud for submitting false campaign reports stemming from an unsuccessful run for judge. He was sentenced to six months in prison to be followed by six months of home confinement and three years of probation.
Henry J. Cianfrani - Democrat - Pennsylvania State Senate from 1967 to 1976. Convicted on federal charges of racketeering and mail fraud for padding his Senate payroll. Sentenced to five years in federal prison.
David Hall - Democrat - Governor of Oklahoma from 1971 to 1975. Indicted on extortion and conspiracy charges. Convicted and sentenced to three years in prison.
John A. Celona - Democrat - A former state senator was charged with the three counts of mail fraud. Federal prosecutors accused him of defrauding the state and collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars from CVS Corp. and others while serving in the legislature. Celona has agreed to plead guilty to taking money from the CVS pharmacy chain and other companies that had interest in legislation. Under the deal, Celona agreed to cooperate with investigators. He faces up to five years in federal prison on each of the three counts and a $250,000 fine
Allan Turner Howe - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Utah from 1975 to 1977. Arrested for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute.
Jerry Cosentino - Democrat - Illinois State Treasurer. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud - fined $5,000 and sentenced to nine months home confinement.
Joseph Waggonner Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Louisiana from 1961 to 19 79. Arrested in Washington, D.C. for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute
Albert G. Bustamante - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Texas from 1985 to 1993. Convicted in 1993 on racketeering and bribery charges and sentenced to prison.
Lawrence Jack Smith - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Florida from 1983 to 1993. Sentenced to three months in federal prison for tax evasion.
David Lee Walters - Democrat - Governor of Oklahoma from 1991 to 1995. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor election law violation.
James Guy Tucker, Jr. - Democrat - Governor of Arkansas from 1992 to 1996. Resigned in July 1996 after conviction on federal fraud charges as part of the Whitewater investigation.
Walter Rayford Tucker - Democrat - Mayor of Compton, California from 1991 to 1992; U.S. Representative from California from 1993 to 1995. Sentenced to 27 months in prison for extortion and tax evasion.
William McCuen - Democrat - Secretary of State of Arkansas from 1985 to 1995. Admitted accepting kickbacks from two supporters he gave jobs, and not paying taxes on the money. Admitted to conspiring with a political consultant to split $53,560 embezzled from the state in a sham transaction. He was indicted on corruption charges. Pleaded guilty to felony counts tax evasion and accepting a kickback. Sentenced to 17 years in prison.
Walter Fauntroy - Democrat - Delegate to U.S. Congress from the District of Columbia from 1971 to 1991. Charged in federal court with making false statements on financial disclosure forms. Pleaded guilty to one felony count and sentenced to probation.
Carroll Hubbard, Jr. - Democrat - Kentucky State Senate from 1968 to 1975 and U.S. Representative from Kentucky from 1975 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to conspiring to defraud the Federal Elections Commission and to theft of government property; sentenced to three years in prison.
Joseph Kolter - Democrat - member of Pennsylvania State House of Representatives from 1969 to 1982 and U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1983 to 1993. Indicted by a Federal grand jury on five felony charges of embezzlement at the U.S. House post office. Pleaded guilty.
Webster Hubbell - Democrat - Chief Justice of Arkansas State Supreme Court in 1983. Pleaded guilty to federal mail fraud and tax evasion charges - sentenced to 21 months in prison.
Nicholas Mavroules - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts from 1979 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to charges of tax fraud and accepting gratuities while in office.
Carl Christopher Perkins - Democrat - Kentucky State House of Representatives from 1981 to 1984 and U.S. Representative from Kentucky from 1985 to 1993. Pleaded guilty to bank fraud in connection with the House banking scandal. Perkins wrote overdrafts totaling about $300,000. Pleaded guilty to charges of filing false statements with the Federal Election Commission and false financial disclosure reports. Sentenced to 21 months in prison.
Richard Hanna - Democrat - U.S. Representative from California from 1963 to 1974. Received payments of about $200,000 from a Korean businessman in what became known as the "Koreagate" influence buying scandal. Pleaded guilty and sentenced to federal prison.
Angelo Errichetti - Democrat - New Jersey State Senator was sentenced to six years in prison and fined $40,000 for his involvement in Abscam.
Daniel Baugh Brewster - Democrat - U.S. Senator from Maryland. Indicted on charges of accepting illegal gratuity while in Senate.
Thomas Joseph Dodd - Democrat - U.S. Senator from Connecticut. Censured by the Senate for financial improprieties, having diverted $116,000 in campaign and testimonial funds to his own use
Edward Fretwell Prichard, Jr. - Democrat - Delegate to Democratic National Convention from Kentucky. Convicted of vote fraud in federal court in connection with ballot-box stuffing. Served five months in prison.
Jerry Springer - Democrat - Resigned from Cincinnati City Council in 1974 after admitting to paying a prostitute with a personal check, which was found in a police raid on a massage parlor.
Guy Hamilton Jones, Sr. - Democrat -Arkansas State Senate. Convicted on federal tax charges and expelled from the Arkansas Senate.
Daniel Flood - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania from 1945 to 1947, 1949 to 1953 and 1955 to 1980. Pleaded guilty to a conspiracy charge involving payoffs and sentenced to probation.
Otto Kerner, Jr - Democrat - Governor of Illinois from 1961 to 1968. While serving as Governor, he and another official made a gain of over $300,000 in a stock deal. Convicted on 17 counts of bribery, conspiracy, perjury, and related charges. Sentenced to three years in federal prison and fined $50,000.
George Crockett, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Michigan. Served four months in federal prison for contempt of court following his defense of a Communist leader on trial for advocating the overthrow of the government.
Cornelius Edward Gallagher - Democrat - U.S. Representative from New Jersey from 1959 to 1973. Indicted on federal charges of income tax evasion, conspiracy, and perjury
Mark B. Jimenez - Democrat fundraiser - sentenced to 27 months in prison on charges of tax evasion and conspiracy to defraud the United States and commit election financing offenses.
Bobby Lee Rush - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Illinois. As a Black Panther, spent six months in prison on a weapons charge.
Bolley ''Bo'' Johnson - Democrat - Former Florida House Speaker - received a two-year term for tax evasion.
Roger L. Green - Democrat - Brooklyn Democrat Assemblyman. Pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor for accepting travel reimbursement for trips he did not pay for and was sentenced to fines and probation.
Gloria Davis - Democrat - Bronx assemblywoman. Pleaded guilty to second-degree bribe-taking.

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/21/2007 6:54:10 PM   
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CD, you forgot to link to your source: http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Scandals.htm

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/21/2007 7:03:16 PM   
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How about let's start with Watergate?  Seems to me that was one HUGE Republican scandal that cause a sitting president to resign.

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/21/2007 7:07:51 PM   
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So what you are saying, cyberdude, is that the party that dies with the most scandals wins?

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/21/2007 7:09:04 PM   
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Following in CD's e-steps, I did some Googling of my own. Salon offers a list of "34 scandals from the first four years of George W. Bush's presidency -- every one of them worse than Whitewater." The list covers just Bush's first four years.

A few selections:

1. Memogate: The Senate Computer Theft

From 2001 to 2003, Republican staffers on the Senate Judiciary Committee illicitly accessed nearly 5,000 computer files containing confidential Democratic strategy memos about President Bush's judicial nominees. The GOP used the memos to shape their own plans and leaked some to the media.

5. Halliburton's No-Bid Bonanza

In February 2003, Halliburton received a five-year, $7 billion no-bid contract for services in Iraq. The Army Corps of Engineers' top contracting officer, Bunnatine Greenhouse, objected to the deal, saying the contract should be the standard one-year length, and that a Halliburton official should not have been present during the discussions.

21. Busy, Busy, Busy in New Hampshire

In 2002, with a tight Senate race in New Hampshire, Republican Party officials paid a Virginia-based firm, GOP Marketplace, to enact an Election Day scheme meant to depress Democratic turnout by "jamming" the Democratic Party phone bank with continuous calls for 90 minutes. Federal law prohibits the use of telephones to "annoy or harass" anyone.

22. The Medicare Money Scandal

Thomas Scully, Medicare's former administrator, supposedly threatened to fire chief Medicare actuary Richard Foster to prevent him from disclosing the true cost of the 2003 Medicare bill. Congress voted on the bill believing it would cost $400 billion over 10 years. The program is more likely to cost $550 billion. Scully denies threatening to fire Foster, as Foster has charged, but admits telling Foster to withhold the higher estimate from Congress. In September 2004, the Government Accountability Office recommended Scully return half his salary from 2003.



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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/21/2007 7:27:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

If the GOP is the "Party of Scandals"


Gee...and I could of copied 7 pages......

Everyone one knows that "Friends Don't Let Friends Torture Republicans"

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/21/2007 7:28:55 PM   
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One of my best friends recently dated a republican. They ended up having it out over politics... and she told me that I should have reminded her that "Friends don't let friends date republicans"...lol


Hopefully she has regained her composure and regained her sense.

Hope she makes a full recovery.

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/21/2007 7:31:07 PM   
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UniOrb has a piece called The Political Party of Scandals.

Here are a few of its tidbits:

The 2005 Gannongate exposed a male prostitute that had been planted as a news reporter with security clearance for the daily Whitehouse Press briefings.

In probably one the worst and the most extensive probes in history, Jack Abramoff stands at the core of web corruption, touching the lives of numerous Republican lawmakers, staffers, lobbyists, and operatives. Known as the Republican "superlobbyist", Abramoff's admission to felony charges in the Indian Gaming Scandal led to the convictions of three disgraced prominent Congressmen: Randy "Duke" Cunningham (R-CA) for receiving more than $2M in bribes in a criminal conspiracy involving defense contractors; Bob Ney (R-OH) for accepting bribes in exchange for various legislative favors; and Tom DeLay (R-TX) from Sugarland for being involved in numerous ethics violations with regard to bribery and conspiracy. In cooperation with Federal prosecutors, Abramoff has touched off a string of scandals involving many more Republicans caught in various violations with regard to bribery and illegal campaign fundings.

In July 2004, the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq found that 34 percent of the materiel controlled by Kellogg, Brown and Root (a subsidiary of Halliburton) had gone missing and the disbursing of $600 million in Iraq reconstruction funds "did not establish effective controls and left accountability open to fraud, waste and abuse."

Tom DeLay's TRMPAC (Texans for a Republican Majority PAC) illegally raised corporate contributions to help Republicans gain control of the Texas Legislature in 2002. The Legislature then re-drew Texas' U.S. congressional districts to help the GOP.




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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/21/2007 7:31:40 PM   
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How about let's start with Watergate?  Seems to me that was one HUGE Republican scandal that cause a sitting president to resign.


Seems they are trying to invoke Presidental power....again....

I seemm to recall Nixon saying something like Never has so many private conversations been so public..or something like that...

Just the facts sir...and remember you are under oath...

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/21/2007 7:33:41 PM   
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So what you are saying, cyberdude, is that the party that dies with the most scandals wins?




Ever notice it use to be the Democrats were gulty of sex and lust and Republicans guilty of power and corruption with big biz money?

Everyone one knows that "Friends Don't Let Friends Torture Republicans"

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/21/2007 7:34:47 PM   
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We mustn't forget Iran-Contra (or Iranamok, as The New Republic called it.)

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/22/2007 8:01:59 AM   
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We mustn't forget Iran-Contra (or Iranamok, as The New Republic called it.)


Yes, wasn't that the scandal that produced the lovely Fawn Hall, the secretary who couldn't type?

And who remembers Ms. Fanny Fox, that delightful stripper who frolicked in the Tidal Basin with Wilbur Mills? 

Monica Lewinsky had nothing on these ladies.

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/22/2007 11:40:51 AM   
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I think the point that cyberdude is making is that an attempt to just claim that corruption exists on one side of the ideological divide is both short-sighted, and a good example of "mote, beam, eye".

Why don't we just agree that corruption of public office is a crime, whatever party is guilty, and prosecute individuals based on the facts, and not on the media hype and partisan claims?

Returning (!!) honesty and integrity to public service shouldn't be strait-jacketed into simple partisan politics.

Unless you have an agenda, that is.

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/22/2007 12:01:54 PM   
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I think the point that cyberdude is making is that an attempt to just claim that corruption exists on one side of the ideological divide is both short-sighted, and a good example of "mote, beam, eye".

Why don't we just agree that corruption of public office is a crime, whatever party is guilty, and prosecute individuals based on the facts, and not on the media hype and partisan claims?

Returning (!!) honesty and integrity to public service shouldn't be strait-jacketed into simple partisan politics.

Unless you have an agenda, that is.

FirmKY


Hey, cyberdude!

Apparently I forgot the last "e" in your name, and Mod11 has called me on the carpet for name calling!

I apologize for the momentary lack of an "e".  No hidden insult intended, my compatriot!

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/22/2007 12:05:50 PM   
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Then we have an unprotected border with Mexico and 15-20 million illegal aliens in this country.
When a President, ANY President *refuses* to enforce federal law I think that's a lot more than a scandal it's an impeachable offense!
If those on the left want to get rid of Bush THAT's how to do it!

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/22/2007 12:24:39 PM   
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I agree.  His failure (along with all other modern Presidents) to enforce the border is totally without excuse.

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/22/2007 12:26:14 PM   
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Before we begin to name scandalist, let's ask ourselves a question or two. Which came first, the scandalist or the politician? Did the person start off as a scandalist before or after politics? After all, some join politics and political parties thinking they'll be able to get away with stuff.

If I were a scandalist, I would join the Republican Party simply so no one would suspect me at first when a scandal started to unfold.

Scandalist become polticians to scandal just as much as perverts become teachers/priest to molest people. A wolf appears in sheeps clothing.  

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RE: How many Republican scandals can you name? - 3/22/2007 12:31:27 PM   
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in teh words og Jeanne, 82 yr old role model, "they are all a bunch of crooks"

the older folks have abundant wisdom to share!

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