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smilezz -> RE: slavery a gift??? (4/24/2005 1:53:41 PM)
quote: Like smilezz, it is 'who I am and not what I give'(sorry to steal it... but it is so good - you need to copyright it!...lol). Thank ya.....feel free to use it anytime. I stand by what i said and believe it even more! Happy Sunday! ~smilezz~

Interesdom -> RE: slavery a gift??? (4/24/2005 1:53:57 PM)
Now how could slavery be a gift?! This girl I clubbed and shackled before dragging back to my cave by her hair is no gift - she's a prize! [:D] That's my idea of romance! [;)]

Kinkypupper -> RE: slavery a gift??? (4/26/2005 10:31:49 PM)
Is not the "act" of submission a gift to the one to whom it is given ?? I feel the "giving" of self as in submission to a "Dom"/Master is indeed a GIFT as it is given with no strings, no cost, no requirements. For those who live in a fantasy world or are a "wannabe" perhaps they can "beleave" that submission of another is something to be taken. I cannot beleave that. One does not use "force" to take anything. If anything thats illegal anyway. I have been Married 4 times I want something MORE then that from a partner. To many times a "Marrage" is started with 1/2 truths and ones own adjenda, Perhaps from My perspective its that I have felt "used". I still beleave in the FACT that Marrage is a commitment and a serious one. It should be for better or worse but it DOES require both partys to work on that. I come from a perspective of being in Love with a Lady whom I truely did LOVE, and she Loved me. I was willing to give up the "non-vanilla" life for her, She knew who I was when we first "dated" . Unfortunately she "tryed" to be someone she truely was not and after 2 years filed for Divorce as "she" tried to be someone she was not. No working things out no counceling just "ran". I can also accept her reasons why. HOWEVER.. I am one who beleaves that "WE" are a product of our past and our past relationships at the age of 50 Sorry who I AM is a product of my past its part of ME. So I want more then a "Marrage" I seek a partnership, a companion and yet a girl who will submit her very soul to me. At the same time I want to feel a "Love" and caring for HER as well. So what I seek is indeed a "gift" it is the gift of "self" that I want. For a time I felt that a Master/slave relationship would be fulfilling enough ( I had one in my first marrage but due to age and ignorance well it did not last long and i wanted more then a mindless slave to whom everything had to be told.) And yet I find that I want the "warm fuzzys" the affection, the romance as well. and it has to be a two way street. I have been "dating" such a girl for some months and altho she is offering herself as a "gift" I do not feel the romantic "Love" to her. And that also I want to have. its something that is either there or not there. can it happen over time. yes sometimes it can. So my comment that the submission of a sub/slave is a 'gift' I truely beleave that is so. and in receaving that "gift" it should be cherished and respected for the totalness and fullness of that giving.

EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: slavery a gift??? (4/27/2005 5:52:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kinkypupper I feel the "giving" of self as in submission to a "Dom"/Master is indeed a GIFT as it is given with no strings, no cost, no requirements. Hmm I have yet to know a submissive or slave who has no strings, no costs and no requirements. Including myself.

DreamWeaverAz -> RE: slavery a gift??? (4/27/2005 12:42:12 PM)
I see things very much the same way. while a girl/boy (be them slave or submissive) has a gift to give, that being themselves, their trust, respect, whole being in many cases...it is also a gift in that it allows or gives the Master/Dom the ability to be even more of who they. not meaing that anybody is less than they should be because they do not own or belong....but in My limited experience the gift is as much one that completes the Dom as it completes the submissive...thus the two way street that both sides benifit and hopefully grow from.

LordODiscipline -> RE: slavery a gift??? (4/29/2005 4:11:51 PM)
Personally - I think this whole "gift" thing is just so much pablum that is utilized to overcome someone's reluctance to let loose of a romantic fantasy that is all encompassing - but, is simply that - a fantasy. This is one of the things that unrealistic expectations are generated upon and dashes folks ability to deal with all that life is... and, some of it is (as a necessity) truly mundane.... I cannot count the amount of people I have spoken with that make assumptions upon such statements and then are summarily dissapointed through them. And the whole "true" thing... the egalitarian prose that is used with such a descriptor, the nullification of other people's veracity that is so often accompanying this is a general reason is more than enough cause for me to reject this term in kind with other's of it's ilk. We have enough people telling us how to properly live our lives without people within our "community" making their assumptions upon us and our choices. ~J

dragonofjapan -> RE: slavery a gift??? (4/30/2005 5:07:34 PM)
Both are giving gifts but really......... This is a Tango. And thinking too much while dancing, starts to look a bit like painting by numbers Zip

ginger21 -> RE: slavery a gift??? (4/30/2005 5:28:12 PM)
i agree with everyone that has said it is a two way thing, but when you think about it, the slave is giving more physically of his/her self than the Master. But that doesn't mean the Master isn't sacrificing. Essentially, your life is in His/Her hands...how many people have that kind of responsibility?

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