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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/17/2007 5:31:40 PM   
hereyesruponyou


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I wasn't complaining about height, i was just commenting on my experience. I am a barely 5'8",  date enough online here or vanilla and you soon find out those numbers are relative to men. Amazing how my neice 5'10" and sister 5'11" are both considerably taller than me, but the majority of men i have dated who have those measures on their profiles are the same height as me, even when i remove the heels!!!

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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/17/2007 5:36:19 PM   
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In response to the reply to me.  No, you didnt.  I added a comment, and if you dont like my comment then feel free to ignore it much like you are ignoring many of the worthwhile commentary that HAS been given to you on the forum so far.
The REST of what I said, I see, you didnt reply to.  The simple reason there are going to be a lot more younger Dommes on here than there are older ones, lifestyle wise, is that the older lifestyle dommes most of the time have already found what they want. The people on here are searching. If they are lucky, but the time they reach your age of interest, many have already found a good partner and have stopped looking. 
If you dont like us making comments outside of strictly what you placed in your OP, then dont air your issues on the forums. We comment as we please, some seriously and some not.  If youve read any others, you already know this. And the snarkier you get with your replys to us, the less likely you are going to get anything useful and the more likely this is going to degenerate into a sarcastic mess.

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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/17/2007 6:09:14 PM   
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That's strange, when I just did a search of Female Dominants in AZ aged 40-70 I came up with 3 pages of names. Again, what criteria are you using. There were 12 on the first page alone that were over 45.

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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/17/2007 10:45:49 PM   
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quote:

I added a comment, and if you dont like my comment then feel free to ignore it much like you are ignoring many of the worthwhile commentary that HAS been given to you on the forum so far.


I didn't comment because what you said makes sense. Did you expect an argument?

OK, since you expected an argument, I don't agree with your theory. It's very difficult for me to believe that older women aren't looking, especially considering that the large majority of men like younger women.

Happy now?

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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/18/2007 4:34:25 AM   
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I am a 44 year old female Dominant and I know that there are plenty of us on CM. I personally am not looking for a sub right now as I have a 35 year old male sub whom I am very happy with. All you have to do is seek and you may find one who is looking for someone such as yourself.

Good Luck,
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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/18/2007 4:55:54 AM   
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You're rude which makes it a bit difficult to just have a conversation on the topic.   Yeah you've been lashed at a bit but goodness a bit of grace is really attractive in a sub.  It's a skill worth cultivating.  Responding only to the stuff you disagree with is kinda novel.  But I'd make a different choice.

So the one thing I'll add to the conversation is that you are talking about the internet.  And so there are also generational differences at play.  We baby boomers can be internet savvy but we are not the internet generation.  Some of us are not as facile with the medium.  Some of us don't think of looking for others this way.  Now the X and Y generations are all about the internet. Myspace.  Facebook and the like.  Dating and hooking up this way, and just socializing this way is a part of their culture.   Real life differences I suspect will be reflected similarly on  match.com and eharmony.


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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/18/2007 5:40:55 AM   
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Announcement: this is an off-topic post. Well, kinda -- it's sort of a meta-post. Please bear with me.

So, I've noticed something about the OP's posting sthyle: he seems much, much more invested in responding to any negative posts that occur in his topics than any on-topic ones. For someone who claims to be so disappointed by "off topic" posts, he's not doing much increase the amount of on-topic posts. I suspect that if he responded to the posts that actually answered his question, and ignored the posts that supposedly disappoint him so, he'd be more likely to increase the perceived signal to noise ratio.

For instance, these are the posts I've found that seem to meet his criteria for being on topic.

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressNoName


Well, there are now 124 by this over-40 woman.

MNN




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ORIGINAL: Argentopal

I post here in this id and as MsOpal as well. I am ovr 40.  I am over 50.  I can use a computer and net as well as any kid, I write in html, have maintained many different professional, cultural, personal, and lifestyle web sites for over  two decades, have run irl chat rooms, Yhaoo e-lists ...  

MsOpal



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ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

Ive known several over40 and over50 Dommes.  They tend to favor realtime, and leave the internet stuff to the younger ones. The ones I knew at least.  However, you should realize that the number of older dommes who are going to be interested in sneaking around and playing at someones fantasy, online or realtime, is going to be drastically lower.  AS we get older, many of us realize that we want someone who is going to be ours, not someone we have to share with a wife that doesnt know shes sharing. EVen if you find a cache of older Dommes, finding some that are in the age bracket you want and interested in playing to your fantasy is going to be a bit more challenging.

DV



quote:

ORIGINAL: Quivver

1434 Posts and pushing 50



quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Well over 40, moving in on 50. Have no interest in men let alone a married one.

BUT..........I do post!!!




quote:

ORIGINAL: kc692

Actually, myself included, I would say over half of the female dominant regular posters on this site are over 40.  So....do you mean posts on this side or profiles on the other side?



quote:

ORIGINAL: OedipusRexIt

While there are indeed women over the age of 50 here (it only took one of you to prove that, btw), as a fan of your demographic, I've also noticed that your ranks here are thin.

A shame.  I was hoping for some sort of clue as to how to better bait my trap. 




quote:

ORIGINAL: DianeB269

This woman is over 50 and I'm not looking for any new subs.
I also post a lot here on CM.


Diane




quote:

ORIGINAL: Griswold

I wasn't aware it stopped after 50....I have many Dommes contact me...many over 50....many under 30....but I will agree...they get a smidge more selective after 50.

So do men.  Women, because they're tired of the bullshit that always comes from all the young bucks trying to make their mark (and it's almost always bullshit)....us/you because we're old fuckers and we're just tired of all the bullshit...but some of them ("they"....the Dommes) have dealt with all the bullshit for a tad longer than we subs.

It's a Mobius strip.  Can't win....can't lose....can't fucking kill 'em....can't fucking ("something"...I'm lacking here)....but you can't fucking something or other....and that's what pisses me off the most!




quote:

ORIGINAL: Celeste43

You can't go by the profiles. People pull their profiles when they aren't interested in receiving mail. As most dommes over 50 have probably found their ideal sub/lover/husband long ago, and are only interested in a pure service sub, if at all, they are the ones most likely to be invisible to the data.




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ORIGINAL: hereyesruponyou

Well, i did the same search in your listed state and found 9 Dommes listed. Perhaps you had other criteria besides age?  Just dropping it to 50 adds another 20.  Now a search in my state had considerably more, and if you take short jog to your neighbor California there are more than 50 who have been on just today. 

This appears to be a demographic question since you are basing it on what you found in your state. Perhaps you should contact state officials and let them know of this problem

Oh, and also, women lie about their age.....like men and their height




quote:

ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood

Are you sure it's height that they're lying about? 

But seriously - my experience in getting involved in munches, local parties, etc, is that there is NO shortage of women in the 40+ and 50+ age range getting out there and having a damn good time amongst the pervs.    However, when you add in other factors (again, BPS i.e. Big Picture Syndrome), the pool of potential eligibles always narrows exponentially.




quote:

ORIGINAL: Stranger1

They have lives-experience has it's advantages.



quote:

ORIGINAL: honeysuckleblue

Not sure here but is it possible that the older female Dommes, don't find the need to look.  That if they are truew Dommes they may have a very busy lifestyle that affords little time for leisure.  I could be wrong. 




quote:

ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

The simple reason there are going to be a lot more younger Dommes on here than there are older ones, lifestyle wise, is that the older lifestyle dommes most of the time have already found what they want. The people on here are searching. If they are lucky, but the time they reach your age of interest, many have already found a good partner and have stopped looking. 
DV




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ORIGINAL: SDFemDom4cuck

That's strange, when I just did a search of Female Dominants in AZ aged 40-70 I came up with 3 pages of names. Again, what criteria are you using. There were 12 on the first page alone that were over 45.



quote:

ORIGINAL: Lashra

I am a 44 year old female Dominant and I know that there are plenty of us on CM. I personally am not looking for a sub right now as I have a 35 year old male sub whom I am very happy with. All you have to do is seek and you may find one who is looking for someone such as yourself.

Good Luck,
~Lashra



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ORIGINAL: arayofsunshine55

So the one thing I'll add to the conversation is that you are talking about the internet.  And so there are also generational differences at play.  We baby boomers can be internet savvy but we are not the internet generation.  Some of us are not as facile with the medium.  Some of us don't think of looking for others this way.  Now the X and Y generations are all about the internet. Myspace.  Facebook and the like.  Dating and hooking up this way, and just socializing this way is a part of their culture.   Real life differences I suspect will be reflected similarly on  match.com and eharmony.



quote:

ORIGINAL: azjojoba

quote:

I added a comment, and if you dont like my comment then feel free to ignore it much like you are ignoring many of the worthwhile commentary that HAS been given to you on the forum so far.


I didn't comment because what you said makes sense. Did you expect an argument?

OK, since you expected an argument, I don't agree with your theory. It's very difficult for me to believe that older women aren't looking, especially considering that the large majority of men like younger women.

Happy now?


When the OP does bother to respond to the more informative posts, he tends to make comments like this one ... which pretty much encourage a rise in inflammatory posts that go back muddling up the actual topic.

I suspect that if the OP can:
  • learn to only respond to what he considers to be the relevant, on-topic parts of each response
  • not dignify the parts of each response that he considers to be off-topic or inflammatory with a response
  • try to respond to the relevant, on-topic parts of each response with the same tone in with that part of the response was written
-- such behavior may go a long way to repairing the damage to his reputation that has caused him to become incapable of starting a relevant discussion on this board.

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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/18/2007 6:30:20 AM   
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Wow, I had no idea I was such a rare creature! 
 
Perhaps my experience will answer what I think you’re really after (why you get few replies from said…’rare creatures’.)
 
I am 58, I post a lot.  I get a lot of mail here.  Right now, there are eleven pages of mail from people since about the first of the year.  MY problem is, in spite of mentioning I am NOT interested in LDR or men who are young enough to be my child, OR married/attached men; I’d say at least 90% of the mail I get is from guys like you.  Speaking of staying on topic…why is it so many don’t read the profile of the person they profess to be so interested in?
 
The bottom line is…I seldom reply.  There IS one boy (out of state and young enough to be my child), who writes regularly…as if we’re having a conversation.  (Talk about fantasy!!!).  I finally sent ONE note to him suggesting he read my profile and he’d figure out why he doesn’t receive responses and to quit bothering me.  (He still writes…and always one-liners.)
 
It is my contention that if someone writes to me, begging me to beat their ass or sit on their face or chain them to the basement floor…they deserve no response; I just ignore them.  If someone (of any age) writes to me saying hello, we might have something in common…and they live in Greece or Spain or across the country…or are married …or are 22 or 34; I just ignore them. 
 
So, while I am well over 50, and enjoy submissive men…there is no way I’d respond to a note from you.  You complain here and in your profile “…the self proclaimed dominant women who list on this site are just fantasizers. The others are pro dominas, which is OK but I'm surprised there are so few Arizona women who want to role play without having some kind of 24/7 commitment”, and it is my belief that REAL women are just not interested in sneaking around.
 
In your profile you ask for advice (“I haven't met anybody real at this website yet. If any of you have advice on what I can do different, I would appreciate your feedback. Is it realistic to find a femdom for a no strings attached relationship?”)  Here is mine:  Don’t believe that the reason you aren’t meeting the women you want is because we are not ‘real’, know that it is because we ARE real and really disinterested in men who pretend cheating is merely role-play, fantasy or casual relationship.  Cheating, by any other name…   ya know?
 
Just my thoughts,
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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/18/2007 6:51:38 AM   
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Excellent post Ms Bearlee! Thank you for your informative contribution!

Hugs

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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/18/2007 7:12:30 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: azjojoba

I thought I better comment further, because it seems that most of the people replying are misinterpreting the question.

I base my original question on the lack of women over 50 in the profile database that are looking for submissive men. By doing a search of the profiles I can see plenty of them from women in the 25-45 age bracket but after that it drops rapidly.  After the age of 55 there are almost no hits.

It seems that most of the women in the database are between the ages of 22-40. How come?

PLEASE READ: I am not basing the question on how many women I can find that are interested in me. I'm merely stating what I have observed by searching the database. I don't care to answer any more insulting questions about my desirability because that's irrelevant to the question. Please stay on topic!



You are quite defensive for someone looking for answers to a question with obvious answers....

My observation is this:

  • You are on this site to find someone to play with. 
  • You have certain criteria in which to look. 
  • You are not finding what you seek, so you ask a general question and you get irritated at the answers you are given.

You should be grateful that people have gone beyond the typical "spew an answer out" and looked into the deeper you by reading your profile.  They have given you answers both your original question and the next question you will have.  Someone picked out some inconsistencies in your profile (married /discreet yet willing to relocate), perhaps on the chance that you might correct them and be better able to find someone...

If people give you constructive criticism, that doesn't mean they are trying to hurt you or to change the subject, they are trying to help you achieve your desire.  IF you don't want to get real opinions from real people, perhaps you should find a site where a BOT tells you exactly what you want to hear.

There are people of all ages on this site.  Lots of women don't list their ages truthfully because of men like you.  (Married and wanting only to play without commitment).  Honestly, no one wants to be bothered with that. 

With all that said, I am a DOMINANT over 40 (albeit not much over) and to reiterate the statements made by so many, a man that is tied to another woman is NOT attractive in any way shape or form when it comes to this lifestyle.  If he as well only wants play, then he needs to dig deeply in his pockets and pay for someone to play with.  Lifestyle DOMINANTS many not charge a monetary fee for what they do, but it isn't free, they want a connection with the person/people they engage with.  You can't get that with someone who is bound to another.

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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/18/2007 7:49:01 AM   
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some are in the house, others are in the senate.



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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/18/2007 7:53:40 AM   
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Now...THAT was funny!
 
Thanks, I needed that...
 
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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/18/2007 8:13:57 AM   
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The heck with older women. Im 62. I want all the younger ones. 61,60,59,58, ect. ect.

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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/18/2007 8:55:26 AM   
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 Ms Bearlee: the One to watch.
yeow!
Good job Ladies and staunch supporters.
In My Psycology classes we are encouraged to think on why a question is asked.
Obviously y'all already understand this concept.
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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/18/2007 9:06:34 AM   
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Maybe the internet is not provided at the assisted living facility or retirment community they live in.

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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/18/2007 9:21:49 AM   
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MsBearlee,

You rock! We could use more FemTops with your pure horse-sense here in the Big Apple!

MNN

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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/18/2007 9:32:39 AM   
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DivaZya. A question is asked because someone wants a answer to it. Why look for hidden meanings in it. Just answer the question and move on.

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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/18/2007 9:43:20 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

DivaZya. A question is asked because someone wants a answer to it. Why look for hidden meanings in it. Just answer the question and move on.


Now wouldn't that be boring - and rarely would it get to the heart of the issue. 

< Message edited by MsSonnetMarwood -- 4/18/2007 9:46:12 AM >


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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/18/2007 10:09:26 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: arayofsunshine55

You're rude which makes it a bit difficult to just have a conversation on the topic.   Yeah you've been lashed at a bit but goodness a bit of grace is really attractive in a sub.  It's a skill worth cultivating.  Responding only to the stuff you disagree with is kinda novel.  But I'd make a different choice.
Grace is also attractive in a woman if either role as you show in this post of yours. But instead of telling him how graceless he is for how he is reacting to others, you should look at the posts he is reacting to. Did they show any real grace? I don't think so. Why tell him he is graceless when the women who posted to him are just as graceless? Why not tell them such?

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RE: Where are the older female dominants? - 4/18/2007 5:27:15 PM   
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quote:

So the one thing I'll add to the conversation is that you are talking about the internet. And so there are also generational differences at play. We baby boomers can be internet savvy but we are not the internet generation.


That explanation makes a lot of sense to me.

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