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"Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 4/23/2007 2:08:24 AM

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"Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?"

"Or are in-game chats and animated sex just harmless experiments?"

By Kristin KalningGames editorMSNBC
Updated: 6:12 p.m. PT April 16, 2007
"Sam had met someone, and it was getting serious.

It started out as a friendship, as many relationships do. But gradually Sam's feelings for Kat, a beautiful, smart and confident woman, had turned romantic.

Hang on — there’s a catch. Sam and Kat met in the virtual world Second Life. And although they shared all kinds of intimacies in Second Life, the real people have never laid eyes on each other."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18139090/

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 4/23/2007 6:17:36 AM

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uusually not.

those of us- most here have been online many years. as ones internet muturity happens- there is no interest in a chatroom.

a newby- i know missed 3 days of works since he stayed up all night online. in some regard it is just words on a screen.

the world is like a frustrating phone menu system. no matter how how press- you are too dumb to work a phone- and if you go on and on and on about discussing ur acct- thats consuming ur time.

in the article it was 2 guys. i dont think this is too comment anymore.

a few years back i was so excited over online army guy. when i met him- he apparantly misled his age- as this guy was from the war of 1812!!!!

so much for online dating...

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 4/23/2007 6:23:43 AM

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I've dumped a sub for it. To me, yes.

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 4/23/2007 6:37:29 AM

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the cyberworld is fake tho.

even this offf topic site- created its own reality.

80 years from now- this post could probaly be located and studied. screen names dont pass away....yes and no.

right now u are in an alterred state of reality- drugs, religion, booze- same thing.

you can peractically plug is USB into your head today.

each of us has 24 hours in a day. will i focus on the river, or the net?? which is the better reality?

jenn obsesses if a guy named butch wants her. i said NO. if he is interested he will call. she goes on and on about where they stand. they dont stand anywhere!!!! she wishes he would blah blah balh. well buctch has moved on to sume other peice of azz. he could care less if she moves and he cant find her.

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 4/23/2007 8:08:42 AM

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It's a no-brainer to me.

Yup... that's infidelity.

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 4/23/2007 8:50:14 AM

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The paddles denoting your rank on this board ("Deranged") are fake in the respect that they're not actually physical paddles. Your display picture is fake in the respect it's not able to act as you on the individual level.

At the same time, these are real for what they are. You, for this matter, are quite real.
Somewhere, you're a human being of thirty-six years old. I don't know if you're actually thirty-six. That's not the point. You exist.
In this same respect, I exist.
Other posters exist.
These words exist as much as spoken words.

We- and this- is all very much real.
"Cyber sex" is not "sex". Don't call it "sex, but fake sex". It's "cyber sex". Something different. But something real, too.

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 4/23/2007 9:05:50 AM

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I think if emotions on either part become involved then, yes, it is a type of infidelity. I think there are many more gray areas than black and white but I have certainly seen alot of people get hurt.

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 4/23/2007 9:27:07 AM

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Well, my first reaction to this, without having thoroughly read the initial post, was "yes, it's infidelity." Now having read the scenario...I have to say it depends. Second Life, as I understand it, is primarily a fictional, imaginary RPG...now how much of their real selves were put into those fictional characters seems to me the main question.

So, I have to now state, unknown...insufficient data.

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 4/23/2007 9:49:56 AM

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From the article: But at some point, Sam’s in-world relationship with Kat began to intrude on his real life. A recent family vacation was punctuated by furtive Second Life meetings with his avatar girlfriend.
“I dreamed up any excuse I could with my family to tell them I needed to get online for a few minutes here and there,” he says. “It was pathetic.”
“If people are getting their needs for love, attention, intimacy, companionship and sex from somewhere else, I think it’s cheating,” she says. “And, if they’re keeping their relationship a secret from their real-life partner.”

i think that sums it up. Playing online is one thing but when feelings for someone there start to interfere with your "real" life or your relationships there become more fulfilling than your r/t ones, i think there's a real issue. i do believe it's very possible to commit "real-world infidelity" online.......slave luci

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 4/23/2007 10:56:23 AM

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I would experience it as infidelity if my spouse had an online, romantical relationship.

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 4/23/2007 11:04:54 AM

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It depends entirely on where their hearts and minds are.
And since You can't do that, no matter what they tell You, I would say to get one of those software packages installed so you can monitor their conversations without them knowing.
If they are going to sneak around, you'll have to be sneaky to prove it.

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 4/23/2007 11:11:07 AM

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I don't care if it's virtual or real-world. an affair is an affair.

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 4/23/2007 11:17:30 AM

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But the question remains...is it an affair or is it RPG addiction...fantasy play addiction?

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 4/23/2007 11:30:57 AM

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When i used to cyber i looked at it as an enhancement of self-pleasure, sort of like watching a video. But now i see it as cheating, because i had to hide it from Hubby.

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 4/23/2007 11:41:37 AM

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Yes, from personal experience, in my mind it's cheating, finding the multiple personal ads clinched it though lol!

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 5/2/2007 1:44:16 PM

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Is this online game all consuming to some?

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 5/2/2007 2:24:44 PM

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I have never been in the site Second Life so can't really say what it is or not. Or if it has anything to do or lead up to infidelity. Several years ago Master and i were in a 3d community called Moove( rose) . There we spent a lot of time getting to know others in the lifestyle. You could wear what you wanted or not , decorate your house etc etc. It was useful to us because it was another way for me to learn about the lifestyle, kneeling, protocal, rules etc. By watching others who were also lifestyle. But eventually we knew that our relationship had to go to the next step and we left Moove to be able to explore our relationship deeper. So perhaps , when used right , and within the bdsm lifestyle sites like this may be able to help some. I can understand how this online game can take over peoples lives though

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 5/2/2007 2:40:29 PM

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It's a very simple answer to this...
It doesnt matter if its a phone, a handwritten letter, or typed words on a pc moniter.
If your doing something of a sexual or romantic nature with another person that your spouse or significant other isnt aware of, then its cheating.
For the people that are saying "okay but there isnt any physical contact between the two people involved so it isn't really cheating", I have to ask what are your feelings about a man jerking off on one side of the room while your wife masterbates for his viewing pleasure on the otherside of the room, and your at work unaware of it, busting your butt to pay for her room, bread, and board?
If a person is in a relationship, that isn't an open relationship, and they are going online to make sticky typing or cuddle coo's with another person, then there is no validation or justification for it. It's just cheating with a smaller chance of getting caught.

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 5/2/2007 3:02:21 PM

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It is cheating with out a doubt

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RE: "Is a virtual affair real-world infidelity?" - 7/27/2007 11:28:06 AM

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i dont know.. ive had fun online but never have i said ooo this is serious...

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