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BondageTopJere -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (4/24/2007 8:21:47 PM)
To the OP. I can't fault the logic displayed when you requested your punishment and the response to it. 1 furthur question1 spring to mind however. While I can understand the need to be punished, it does nothing to redress what casued the punishment in the first place. Can anything be done to alleviate the possiblity of it happening again?

disciplinedslave -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (4/25/2007 8:08:48 AM)
thank you everyone for your input, it is greatly appreciated. i would like to clarify something, i did not ask Master to punish me. i informed him of my feelings regarding doing something wrong and He said "ok i'll punish you". He agreed that what i was saying about how i felt made sense and since he wants me to tell him how ia m feeling what i said was appropriate for O/our dynamic. i agree that it makes me feel more like a slave when i want/need punishment/penence for doing something wrong. sadistic man, Sir i sympathize with you on the catholic school, i to was at the mercy of real nuns in grammer school, and only one word comes to mind, ouch. again thank you everyone disciplinedslave owned and collared since 3/4/07

littleone35 -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (4/25/2007 8:43:02 AM)
I would never ask my Master for punishment. Punishment is not fun (nor is it supposed to be). Him talking to me and telling me what i did wrong and he was displeased would be a worse punishment then corporal. Even though i don't like pain i would take the corporal punishment if he felt it was deserved. Well i did ask for a spanking yesterday but that was play. Matt's littleone

AquaticSub -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (4/25/2007 8:57:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SadisticMan excuse me, was I talking to you? just something to whine about eh ? Quite mature there. To the OP: I understand needing a punishment, but at the same time, if he doesn't feel you need one then you don't need one. Let him know you still feel bad, but once you've done that continuing to ask will only bother and/or annoy him. And that will get you punished.

MagiksSlave -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (4/25/2007 5:47:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SadisticMan quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave Sadisitc Man.. are you saying Im not a real slave becuase I dont ask for punishment... Im sorry but as a slave I dont feel its my place to ask for a punishment if Master felt I needed one he would give me one and me asking for one simply says I dont trust his judgment in the matter. I feel the same as the Op that if I do something I feel is wrong that I like to be punshed for it because it takes the guilt away, but I also know Master knows that and I also feel I need to trust Master in his desitions and that if he doesnt feel I need punishment then that at this point is enough of a reason for me not to feel guilty... if Master doesnt feel I need punishment then I have done nothing to feel guilty about!! Magik's slave excuse me, was I talking to you? just something to whine about eh ? You where talking on the boards I am part of the boards there for you where talking to me. I wasnt whineing was just pointing out a falsood of something you said.. it takes a very little man to snap at another person when he is the one wrong... Oh and Im not talking to you its just food for thought!!! you said and I quot "Hats off to you for being a real slave I say" I take issues when people say what makes a "true slave" sounds as if you are condeming all the people that dont do things the way you wish them to be done and that in my book is just poor form. ((grins and skips off)) Magik's slave

minnetar -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (4/25/2007 6:27:16 PM)
MagiksSlave , are you okay? don't let it get to you. minnetar

MagiksSlave -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (4/25/2007 9:17:01 PM)
Im ok..I just dont care for stupid close minded and nasty people Magik's slave

MrDiscipline44 -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (4/26/2007 6:56:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave Im ok..I just dont care for stupid close minded and nasty people Magik's slave And yet you're being just as stupid, closed-minded and nasty. quote: I take issues when people say what makes a "true slave" sounds as if you are condeming all the people that dont do things the way you wish them to be done and that in my book is just poor form. It's his right to condemn them if he wants because to him, they are not "true" slaves. Just like not every man you come across is not a "true" master to you. We all have our own criteria for what makes someone "real" to us and not everyone or even most people are going to fit it. I find it ironic, though, that you condemned him for condeming others. He was, supposedly, condemning people because they didn't do things the way he wished them (which I believe you were actually reading more into the statement then intended) and yet you are condemning him for not posting the way you like (in other words not doing something the way you wished him). Thus making you a hypocrite.

starshineowned -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (4/26/2007 7:39:46 AM)
Greetings..~smiles~ I am just curious disciplinedslave...would any punishment/correction that your Master decided to give you been enough to help you atone or is it only physical pain implications? Did you in your explaining make referrence or suggestion about lashes, spankings, paddlings, etc. or was the thought of how to punish you purely your Masters? If he had stated your punishment would be a couple of hours in a corner requiring you to reflect upon the accident and what you might do in the future to prevent such..would you at the end of that punishment felt the same atonement? Well Wishes starshine Happy slave of Master Delvin

twistedkytten -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (4/26/2007 5:46:37 PM)
if i were to beg for punishment for something i had done, that is why the girl submits to it, because it makes her clean again, negates guilt as well . as Master says.. it washes away her trespass

MrDiscipline44 -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (4/28/2007 12:39:20 PM)
Opps...............

disciplinedslave -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (4/28/2007 12:41:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: starshineowned Greetings..~smiles~ I am just curious disciplinedslave...would any punishment/correction that your Master decided to give you been enough to help you atone or is it only physical pain implications? Did you in your explaining make referrence or suggestion about lashes, spankings, paddlings, etc. or was the thought of how to punish you purely your Masters? If he had stated your punishment would be a couple of hours in a corner requiring you to reflect upon the accident and what you might do in the future to prevent such..would you at the end of that punishment felt the same atonement? Well Wishes starshine Happy slave of Master Delvin thank you for your reply, yes any punishment that my Master implicated would suffice. No i did not make any suggestions at all to my Master when i was explaining how i felt. Yes any punishment that he would put in place whether physical or not would make me feel the same atonement. my Master has used a corner in the past, and it made me feel almost the same as if he had spanked me. it is not the particualar punishment it is the feeling that comes with it. i have done something to anger, upset, dissappoint, etc... him, and knowing that he is feeling that combined with him punishing me is enough to make me correct my behavior, no matter what kind of punishment he may give me. thank you disciplinedslave owned and collared since 3/4/07

Stranger1 -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (4/28/2007 12:42:33 PM)
I won't use play types of punishements for atonement. One is more likely to find herself doing some useful task. Like weeding the garden, or cleaning. After all, if I am the wronged one,why should I be making an extra effort to atone? I am not the sort for quick and easy outs, like brief pain. A few hours spent in the hot sun on one's knees, grubbing in the dirt, gives much time for reflection.............and change.

MellowSir -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (4/28/2007 12:47:21 PM)
The corner or just the threat of it always serves nicely lol

sweetlady41only -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (4/28/2007 1:53:09 PM)
i know how you feel. Having been raised to confess, do penance and feel absolved, i, too, want my punishment so i can feel close to Master again when the issue arises. i even asked for it sooner once, to get it overwith so i could stop dwelling on it within. i was corrected and chastised for "topping from the bottom"... Now i know He decides whether, when and how to punish. my guilt is my own issue, to be endured as long as Master wishes. It was a lesson for me.

TemptingNviceSub -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (4/28/2007 7:39:58 PM)
I doubt I will ever seek punishment as a way for atonement..I may be a bit of a masochist..but definitely not that big of one!!..punishments to me have negative connotations so thus to be avoided if at all possible..IMO communication is the way to go for two reasonable adults...Tempting

starshineowned -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (4/29/2007 12:18:01 AM)
Greetings..~smiles~ Thankyou for replying. It was more the quickness or lack there of that was looking for versus type of punishment..mental, physical, etc...but you answered either way. I know that if I do something..immediately I feel that gut wrench, and it use to take awhile even after Master said it was okay (accident stuff) before I let it go, and it always ended with: It's my job to beat you..not yours..stop taking my fun away. It was and is very hard to not smile, laugh, and let it go as he wishes after that. It's taken a good while but more often than not now I can let it go right off the bat just with the tone of his voice and his not finding any deliberate fault from me. It hasn't been easy though. I've had a lifetime of beating myself up..lol. Glad to hear though that your Master is in understanding with how your feeling and needs to absolve things. Well Wishes starshine Happy slave of Master Delvin

calcaneus -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (5/3/2007 1:03:50 AM)
Punishment, as play, can be used to please the Dom, the sub or both of them. In Hanian life (which i am trying to grow to), punishment is just that. Punishment. If an Owner has to punish His or Her slave, something went wrong. The pain the Owner feels in that failing is much graver then the pain the slave might feel physicaly. There are more ways of punishing a slave of course then a beating, whipping or spanking. If the purpose of the punishment is correction of the inproper behaviour, it will most likely be a form of punishment the Owner knows isn't at all pleasing to the slave.

jaxbeachgirl -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (5/3/2007 12:52:47 PM)
First, you are probably a complete sweetheart, and I'm with your Top; I doubt you rarely need punishment. Heck, I'm proud of you and I don't even know you. :) You are clearly Topping from the bottom--you are making the Boss meet your emotional needs--he doesn't see it as a problem, you do, therefore he must punish you. I have no problem with that--your needs are as important as his, and if yours aren't met, why would you keep submitting? Not a thing wrong with seeking structure!

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: seeking puishment/penence (5/3/2007 1:05:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jaxbeachgirl You are clearly Topping from the bottom--you are making the Boss meet your emotional needs--he doesn't see it as a problem, you do, therefore he must punish you. Well considering he hasn't DONE anything that we know of, the most she's done is attempt to get her way. That doesn't mean she's trying to top him, or that she's succeeding. There's nothing wrong with a slave trying to get what they want, specially not when they directly ask for it.

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