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RE: Theory of Evolution - 7/31/2004 10:23:46 AM   
Leonidas


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Status: offline 		Sure, there is an evolutionary basis for it. In africa, the growing season was long, food was plentiful, and you didn't have to work so damn hard to get it. Humans simply had more time to cultivate a hiney asthetic. In Asia, at the time that humans migrated there, it was still pretty fucking cold, the growing season was short, and survival was a tooth-and-nail proposition all the damn time. Not only was there not much time to develop a highly cultivated hiney asthetic, people had to work what hiney they did have, well, off.

Take care of yourself

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RE: Theory of Evolution - 7/31/2004 11:20:25 AM   
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2. Exactly. Which is why, you will notice, Neanderthals are extinct now.

Apparently this is a quote of Angelika in Sinergy's post.


Someone tell that boy he's way in left field. Leonidas posted this statement.

I understand iwill has me on block because he has issues with me and my opinions (though I have offered to bury the hatchet more then once) but at least he can ignore me completely and not misquote me based on someone else's error.

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RE: Theory of Evolution - 7/31/2004 1:39:31 PM   
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Now ... I have a question for you: what do you think about the common belief that different groups of humans have particular attractions to different shapes of rear-ends? For instance, those in Asia like smaller hiny's, while those of African descent like larger ones. Am I incorrect with this assumption?


I am of a divergent opinion than Leonidas, in that I feel it goes beyond just attraction to different shapes of rear-ends, and into total body type.

For instance, here in the USA, the current 'correct' version of sexy is for women to look like a 14 year old boy with plums in his shirt pockets (to follow the 'supermodel' theory), since here in the USA, it is relatively easy to find and get enough to eat, therefore by being thin you are showing self restraint in not overindulging and becoming fat.
However, I have read of certain tribes in Africa, where it is harder to find and get a sufeit of food, who hold that the women who are what in the USA would be called 'fat' are considered the sexiest and most sought after for mates, since this implies a certain social status/wealth (I can get enough food to become this size).

Or it may be I am just talking out of my ass, I dont know.

In re asian preference for small hineys, maybe it grew out of a liking for someone who showed an awareness of the problem with the population density vs available resources (I am thinking mainly of Chine and Japan here) - where a potential mate was found attractive for having a small hiney which showed they were frugal with the limited food resources available to the mass number of people.
And, again, in re the African descended preference for a larger bootys may go back to the 'I can afford to be large because my family/myself are such good hunters/providers'

just my rambling/babbling tuppence

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RE: Theory of Evolution - 8/2/2004 7:18:49 PM   
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am not sure what it all means, but I hope that by continuing my study I will be able to empirically prove the existence of Neanderthal man. I have applied for several research grants, but have not heard back at this time.


Journal Entry, August 2nd, 2004

The Neanderthal have apparently accepted me into their midst as one of them.

I worked hard to find a set of clothing, unwashed, that was the right shade of day-glo orange with tatters of reflective fabric. I stored it happily in an old gym bag in a dank garage for several months, then took it out, threw it in some oil in the alley, and drove over it a few times. Adorning myself with these, I was given a scrap of paper with the uncouth name of "Job Ticket" by my guide, and repaired to a shipping company in the harbor.

Finding one of the strange individuals carrying clipboards, I expressed my morpheme as a means of greeting and offered him the "job ticket" as a way of making his acquaintance.

A moment of panic as I was overcome with the smell of bourbon on his breath. Checking my wristwatch, I saw that it was only 9:04am. Have I been misinformed? Have I failed to perform all of the research required? Then I realized I have only smelled bourbon on the breath of those who are either known as bosses or heavy equipment operators.

Several moments of panic while he scribbled something on his clipboard. Then he suddenly pointed at my own place to stand stupidly for 8 hours, grunted his morpheme, and wandered off.

My research continues...

Sinergy

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RE: Theory of Evolution - 8/3/2004 9:30:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sinergy -

I wish a more detiled accounting of the interactions and behaviors of the species you are studying. Other than the utterance of the morpheme, what else have you heard that resembles language? Are there both males and females of this species? How does one differintiate between genders?

Come now, more details please.

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RE: Theory of Evolution - 10/21/2006 8:42:15 PM   
Sinergy


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I have been accepted into the Neanderthal tribe, who seem to believe that the aroma emanating from my orange jumpsuit with reflectors on it elevates me to the position of village shaman.  Today, when I presented my "job ticket" to the one wearing the clipboard, he expressed his morpheme and pointed to one of their powered chariots.  I was puzzled by this, and expressed my morpheme, hoping to learn more about their bizarre rituals.

The, for want of a better term, Dock Shaman raised his hands heavenward and expressed his morpheme eloquently and with great fervor and pointed toward the large white object tied up to the dock, and then back at the chariot, and screamed in a manner which let me know that I was to board the chariot.  I did not smell whiskey on his breath, which was shocking at 8am.

I was taken aback by this (LWD) object, but I knew that if I did not attempt to blend in with the neanderthal, I would be shunned and my research would be worthless.  So I boarded my chariot, and advanced on the Large White Object (LWD).  A metal or wicker cage was unloaded by a large beast and presented to me, which I picked up with my chariot and took to the people with the uncouth name of "porter."  They expressed their morpheme in appreciation, and waved me away.  Apparently I was providing service to some base religious ceremony, as the people referred to (in morphemeless fashion) as passengers provided legal currency in tribute to the "porters."  I can only hope that some day I will be elevated to porter so that I may fill my pockets with riches as they do.  I may have passed my window of opportunity, the Dock Shaman seems to think that I am too highly prized as a chariot driver to be subjected to the base job of "porter."

I have heard of other jobs of "porter" to the south, which I can do, and I may have to relocate down to Sandy Eggo to study these in greater lengths.

The LWD is apparently an object of religious adulation for these uncouth people.  It floats of its own accord tied up to the dock, and has hundreds of people with flower necklaces on, waving at us neanderthals below.  I am starting to suspect that this division between those wearing orange and expressing our morpheme, and those on the ship yelling happy farewells and wearing flowers, is the first signs of a schism which I suspect will doom the neanderthal to the annals of paleontology.

After dispensing of all of the items emanating from the forward pie-hole of the LWD, it was my job to show it obeisance in the form of foodstuffs, driven by my chariot and placed into it's unholy maw while the neanderthal inside express their morpheme in appreciation.

I did this for 6 hours, and one they called my "relief" showed up and sent me home shortly after the lunch hours.  For this, I am given tribute for 9 hours of activity.

I am not sure what it all means, but I give to you the fruits of my research.

Sinergy

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RE: Theory of Evolution - 10/21/2006 8:48:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: January

2. Two out of three neanderthals think the "all fours" ass is more shapley and attractive (and inviting) than an upright ass.


Neanderthals walked perfectly upright.

These jokes would be WAY funnier if I didn't have to pass tests on all this stuff in university.  *sigh* 
 
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RE: Theory of Evolution - 10/21/2006 8:50:03 PM   
Sinergy


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ORIGINAL: Morrigel

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ORIGINAL: January

2. Two out of three neanderthals think the "all fours" ass is more shapley and attractive (and inviting) than an upright ass.


Neanderthals walked perfectly upright.

These jokes would be WAY funnier if I didn't have to pass tests on all this stuff in university.  *sigh* 

--M


But did they drive 26 ton forklifts and express their morpheme in greeting?

Sinergy

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RE: Theory of Evolution - 10/21/2006 8:51:22 PM   
Sinergy


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ORIGINAL: Morrigel

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ORIGINAL: January

2. Two out of three neanderthals think the "all fours" ass is more shapley and attractive (and inviting) than an upright ass.


Neanderthals walked perfectly upright.

These jokes would be WAY funnier if I didn't have to pass tests on all this stuff in university.  *sigh* 

--M


On a related note, when I am interested in butt raping her in her cheer leader outfit, I tend to prefer shoving her forward against the walls of the shower or throwing her over the edge of the bed.

Neither of which qualifies in my mind as an "upright" position.

But that is just me and I could be wrong.

Sinergy

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RE: Theory of Evolution - 10/21/2006 8:53:37 PM   
Morrigel


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Status: offline 		Nope, their tool-using pretty much ended at the level of stone tools and spears.  They were hellacious hunters, though, and really robustly built.  Way more muscular and tougher than the standard human.  If it was all about the beefcake, they woulda whupped the tar out of us.

Fortunately, dominance is about intelligence and culture rather than physical strength.  That's why...we're here and they're not.

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RE: Theory of Evolution - 10/21/2006 8:56:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		You have not visited with my Daddy's coworkers (I studied Neanderthal too), and I have to tell you, some of these guys possibly predate neanderthal, possibly Homo erectus because they can control fire long enough to light cigarettes, although rudimentary cooking is out of their league so McDonalds is a must for them in their evolutionary niche.

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RE: Theory of Evolution - 10/21/2006 9:24:25 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		God DAMN that was a belated response.  Laugh!  What made you think of this thread today?

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

Journal Entry, October 21, 2006

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RE: Theory of Evolution - 10/21/2006 9:32:20 PM   
Sinergy


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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

God DAMN that was a belated response.  Laugh!  What made you think of this thread today?

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

Journal Entry, October 21, 2006




Hello A/all,

I apologize for not being more regular with the results of my research studying the Neanderthal.

Research reports, as long as the weather holds and the river doesnt rise, will be more timely.

Wait, my latest journal entry was today...

Sinergy

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RE: Theory of Evolution - 10/21/2006 11:09:53 PM   
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I don't know.. how about dogs, cats and other animals?


Personally, having seen the way dogs and cats clean their butts, I think I'll stick with toilet paper.

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RE: Theory of Evolution - 10/22/2006 7:55:40 AM   
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While you're on the subject, why did man evolve into something that requires shoes and clothes and toilet paper? Wouldn't like be simpler if those things weren't required?


1.  Clothing.  Man evolved to wearing clothing to stay warm in colder temperatures since we all lack fur and feathers.  And eventually like some animals started wearing items for ornamentation to attract a mate.  The more exotic the ornament the chances of a better life. 

2. Shoes.  Not really required, but I'm sure after stubbing the little toe enough (rather painful) one rocks and such the invention of shoes occured.  Also to keep the feet warm as well in the snow since African natives commonly are barefoot. 

3.  Toilet Paper.  A more recent development which many cultures still lack.  I've heard stories from my deceased grandparents of wading up old newspaper to make it soft to wipe the rear.  That was also in the age of outhouses.  Also since I was overseas in Iraq I rarely seen toilet paper, much less a toilet itself.  So believe me.  I appreciate both toilet and toilet paper.

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RE: Theory of Evolution - 10/22/2006 8:30:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		 Here is something I have pondered.  Master has noticed something that he never noticed before with past relationships.  And so we discussed our heritages.  I'm a mix of 8 different bloodlines, but the ones that dominated are my viking and native american traits.  Viking (scandinavian) seems to have the trait of a lower body temp, thicker skin, fewer and larger blood vessels, and thicker bones.  The native american trait that seemed to have been passed on to me is my facsinating ability to gorge and then fast for a few days.  Also I happen to be the tallest female in my family and just slightly shorter than my father.  Granted their are probably more traits, but why bore everyone.  Master however is of only 4 bloodlines.  Mainly Germanic and Latino descent.  He is slightly darker, has a higher body temp than me and small framed. 

Some other observations.  He don't like the cold.  He bundles up in thick clothing and is completely covered when its cold.  Me I put on pants, t-shirt and leather jacket.  No hat, gloves or even a scarf.  He complains of being cold, I complain of sweating.  So I've come to the conclusion that before great civilizations sprung up with concrete jungles that man evolved to his enviroment.  Men in places where it's ice cold developed thicker skin, bigger bones and a more aggressive demeanor.  Also blood vessels became fewer and farther under the skin which explains the lower body temp (96.7)  Where men in warmer areas are darker, have thinner skin and have a higher body temp (98.6).  Also they are less aggressive due to better resources.

But again these are observations made here and well its rather intresting at times and yes we have laughed at each other over the dumbest things.  Like this morning I walked outside in t-shirt and shorts to take the trash out.  Mind you its 32 out. As I come back in Master rushes over to me with a blanket all the while an unmentionable is throwing her food across the dining room.  All I could do was laugh at all this as I'm perfectly warm.  Master of course has food on him and those are the little moments where you need a video camera.  *smiles



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RE: Theory of Evolution - 10/22/2006 8:49:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Leonidas

Come to think of it, since we appear to be the only primates that have sex for pleasure, maybe it is more plausible that the driver of our evolution was sexual, rather than purely practical. 


i'm not sure that's wholly accurate, i can't cite a damn thing right now, Except..  anyone see the video for the kangaroo jerdling himself in the background during the filming of a documentary or interview?    22 seconds of pure joy.  

http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?mode=2&pmmsid=1439392 

Edited to add.. BUT!   i think it's more likely that sexuality drove it.. although standing tall over grass would be an extension of sexuality in that it would be a way to protect young, and see if the wife was approaching the secretarial compound..  surely practical as well as sexual.


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RE: Theory of Evolution - 10/22/2006 8:52:52 AM   
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That was too funny

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RE: Theory of Evolution - 10/22/2006 8:56:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: subartist4dom

Some other observations.  He don't like the cold.  He bundles up in thick clothing and is completely covered when its cold.  Me I put on pants, t-shirt and leather jacket.  No hat, gloves or even a scarf.  He complains of being cold, I complain of sweating.  So I've come to the conclusion that before great civilizations sprung up with concrete jungles that man evolved to his enviroment. 


Yep.  Already scientifically proven.  See "Bergman's Rule", "Allen's Rule", and studies regarding skin color in various climates, which is balanced by the see-sawing needs for folate and Vitamin D in the human body.  There are many other adaptations of the human body to its climate, including various physical features which are developed by people who live in high altitude or tropical environments in which malaria is common, etc..

A great many other features are simply due to geographic isolation and genetic drift--the tendency of small populations to inbreed until everyone has a limited pool of traits.

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RE: Theory of Evolution - 10/22/2006 8:59:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		I haven't read on this for an hour or two, so if it has been said, forgive me.  I believe Leonidas was correct in his assertion that women's asses look better on two, particularily if the heels are uplifting, that is not to say that a woman's ass is in any wise compromised by here taking all 4.

But while horses asses are not as pretty to my mind I think they are common enough out there that they would rather buttress the argument of asses being the driving force of evolution.

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