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Erection denial - 5/20/2006 3:18:44 PM

Dovey

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I do not know if this has been addressed but I'm curious about this. I would like to know if there is a way to keep a man from having an erection without the use of painful devices. I would really just like to be able to make him hard when I want and not hard when I dont want. But I want it to be a thing he can control on his own without the Chastity "belts" I've seen online. Is it possible? Am I just dreaming? haha

I would really like some serious input on this.

RE: Erection denial - 5/20/2006 4:56:47 PM

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pick your nose maybe ;if that dont work dress him for another ocassion beside a full salute....
sorry i'm ,not intending disrespect, but ,i'm no top ,so i have no idea ;how do you stop a speeding train?????

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RE: Erection denial - 5/21/2006 7:03:04 AM

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I may be wrong here, but I don't think it's something you can really control. Because... I don't think it's something *he* can control. It's kind of like trying to control body functions like sneezing and coughing. You can control how they are executed out once they arise, but little can be done about whether it happens in the first place. Adolescent boys are a prime example of how the erection doesn't really care when/how/where/why, if it wants a look around, it's going to... even in math class. I used to work with men in the nursing home, helping them bathe, dress, etc... Some of them felt so embarassed that they couldn't control their erections in front of me. Even infant boys get erections for no particular reason. I think it's just a physical thing that can't be controlled, at any age.
But like I said, I may be wrong. This isn't exactly my area of expertise.

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RE: Erection denial - 5/21/2006 7:06:36 AM

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If you let him control it he will--to masturbate at will---the Dominant needs to hold the "key".

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RE: Erection denial - 5/21/2006 11:04:48 AM

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I was speaking with a Domme at a party last night regaurding this... she asked how I would use this.. and I realized I hadn't said this here. I would like it so that he does not get arroused while pampering me (baths, massages, dressing me). She said it might be possible, and that I should have him do these things, but if he starts getting erect, make him stop. Eventually that will teach him that it isn't to be erect unless I'm stimulating him.

Any thoughts on this? do you think it's possible to have more control without causing pain?

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RE: Erection denial - 5/21/2006 10:51:21 PM

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In my experience the submissive learns to control his own erections, the only way to stop them physically was to use a chastity device, most of them spend the whole time during session with an erection, which they tell me is more painful than not getting an erection. Being submissive is the turn on, does not matter what they are doing, they will be hard. If you try not trying to control the erection, but concentrate on the orgasm denial, they actually learn to control the erection side of it themselves. It is said that men's brains are in their trousers, getting an erection during session just proves it, if he gets hard while doing your personal care, how humiliating for him that he cannot put it to use!!!!
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RE: Erection denial - 5/21/2006 11:30:39 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dovey

I was speaking with a Domme at a party last night regaurding this... she asked how I would use this.. and I realized I hadn't said this here. I would like it so that he does not get arroused while pampering me (baths, massages, dressing me). She said it might be possible, and that I should have him do these things, but if he starts getting erect, make him stop. Eventually that will teach him that it isn't to be erect unless I'm stimulating him.

Any thoughts on this? do you think it's possible to have more control without causing pain?

I have to agree with Ms Proprietrix on this one. Even a chastity device does not prevent erections; it just makes them painful and impossible to, umm, take care of. I feel I can speak with some authority on this, having once worn a chastity device for eight months.

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RE: Erection denial - 5/21/2006 11:57:10 PM

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With the exception of moving far away from him, its doubtful. However, can I ask why you would want to do this in the first place?

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RE: Erection denial - 5/22/2006 4:40:16 AM

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I agree completely, the profile states submissive---hmmm I thought it was all about the Dominant and what He wanted, since when does a submissive put a Dominant in chastity?

<hmmm goes back to rethink the "its all about the submissive" thread.

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RE: Erection denial - 5/22/2006 9:23:09 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dovey

I do not know if this has been addressed but I'm curious about this. I would like to know if there is a way to keep a man from having an erection without the use of painful devices. I would really just like to be able to make him hard when I want and not hard when I dont want. But I want it to be a thing he can control on his own without the Chastity "belts" I've seen online. Is it possible? Am I just dreaming? haha

I would really like some serious input on this.

Well, you can always berate or poke fun at his masculinity. Oh, but then he might like it. Nevermind. And those chastity devices can be all the way from uncomfortable to downright painful. Anyway, if the erection is not there, then will he be turned on enough to even participate? I'm not sure you are on the right track with this.

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RE: Erection denial - 5/23/2006 4:27:23 PM

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I have yet to change my profile, but I'm exploring my Domme side. My Dom/husband has given his permission for me to take on a sub/slave of my own. I was thinking that I would like to be pampered, but not have to think about sex really while being pampered and the hardness would remind me of it. Thank you all for your input, I really appreciate it :)

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RE: Erection denial - 5/23/2006 7:40:19 PM

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This may sound totally bizarre but if you put a picture of his Mother in the room where he has to look at it, he will not get hard.

Then when your ready for him to get a woody, turn the picture over so he can't see it.
Now I've never tried this, but a friend SWEARS that it works because her boy can't tolerate a chastity device. So give it a try and let me know if its for real or if she's full of shit.

~Lashra

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RE: Erection denial - 5/23/2006 8:49:37 PM

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cold, cold, cold, cold water...or go one step further and use ice

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RE: Erection denial - 5/23/2006 9:40:03 PM

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An erection is an automatic response to a stimulus of some kind. I don't think it is something that can be easily turned off. It seems that there should be a way scientifically to condition the male to associate the onset of his automatic response (erection) with something which would have the opposite effect (shrinkage).

My former submissive had rather large spikes in his chastity device, and after a few weeks of the spikes meeting his erection attempt with pain, his mind typically 'protected' him from receiving the pain it was expecting. However, once the spikes came off.... it didn't take long for his mind and body to realize that the pain was no longer a barrier.

If only I had become a scientist...

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RE: Erection denial - 5/23/2006 9:52:59 PM

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i think its not easy to control erections, in the two directions: control to have (sometimes it happens) and control to have not. But i am sure its posible. It belongs to a space of mind mastered for the subconscience. But i think its posible and must be the target of a high level training.
i would try hipnotic tecniques or PNL (Programing Neurolinguistic). Many men when joung in our first intercourses are worried for cumming too soon, with the pass of time we achieve the necesary control to be hard without cumming for a long time. There are tecniques to do it, very very easy. Not having erections, or having it when ordered may be a lot more dificult but i would try it..... Think of such dregree of control!
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RE: Erection denial - 5/23/2006 11:17:08 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dovey

I was speaking with a Domme at a party last night regaurding this... she asked how I would use this.. and I realized I hadn't said this here. I would like it so that he does not get arroused while pampering me (baths, massages, dressing me). She said it might be possible, and that I should have him do these things, but if he starts getting erect, make him stop. Eventually that will teach him that it isn't to be erect unless I'm stimulating him.

Any thoughts on this? do you think it's possible to have more control without causing pain?

People have mentioned ice, pictures of his mom, and pain. Any of these things can be used in classical conditioning to associate not getting an erection response with the things he does for you. You don't want to use pain and pictures of his mom may or may not work. I suggest the ice since it creates a physical response. If you apply ice to his penis while he does these things for you and you do this on a consistent basis, after a while he'll associate not getting an erection with these activities and you can stop using the ice. I'm not sure how long you have to do it, though. I say try it for a week and see if it works. If not, do it longer. But remember that you must be consistent. You have to apply the ice every time he does these things for you during the conditioning period. After the conditioning period, remove the ice and it should work

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RE: Erection denial - 5/23/2006 11:25:51 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei

An erection is an automatic response to a stimulus of some kind. I don't think it is something that can be easily turned off. It seems that there should be a way scientifically to condition the male to associate the onset of his automatic response (erection) with something which would have the opposite effect (shrinkage).

My former submissive had rather large spikes in his chastity device, and after a few weeks of the spikes meeting his erection attempt with pain, his mind typically 'protected' him from receiving the pain it was expecting. However, once the spikes came off.... it didn't take long for his mind and body to realize that the pain was no longer a barrier.

If only I had become a scientist...

Miss Lorelei,

Well, Ma'am, You could always find a submissive who's a scientist.

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RE: Erection denial - 5/23/2006 11:48:50 PM

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Miss Lorelei,

Well, Ma'am, You could always find a submissive who's a scientist.

Hmmm... a submissive scientist.... Something tells me I would have to condition him to not be too much of a know-it-all. Only room for one of those in a relationship. <smiles>

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RE: Erection denial - 5/24/2006 12:14:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei

quote:

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Miss Lorelei,

Well, Ma'am, You could always find a submissive who's a scientist.

Hmmm... a submissive scientist.... Something tells me I would have to condition him to not be too much of a know-it-all. Only room for one of those in a relationship. <smiles>

Yes, Ma'am I think You're right! Those damn scientists can be such know-it-alls, can't they?

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RE: Erection denial - 5/24/2006 12:48:54 AM

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I know....all of us scientists are awful. All that pavlovian talk is just boring isn't it? I'm Adam a sub med school student/chemist. It all makes perfect sense. Conditioning is only temporary (length of effect depends on length and severity of conditioing). When Pavlov quit feeding the dogs they quit salivating when the bell rang after a period of a week or so. Now on the other hand if the stimulus was very severe (say cutting a joint off of the dog's tail instead of food based---I don't torture animals....just an extreme illustrative example) the animal would likely stay conditioned longer. If the things loose association with one another the test subject will dissassociate the things in their mind as well and loose the conditioning.

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