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RE: Training to cum on command - 10/30/2008 2:09:49 PM

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I'm sitting here thinking about things some. The strong connection associated with permission to cum involved in the mental conditioning process. I've made it a point to verbally command the extension of orgasms. Works Awesome. Then again that's one of my favorite things.

Just sitting here reflecting upon the use of the cum command out of the blue. The whole mental association connected to it. I have read where some they are able to cum, others where they get all hot and bothered by it. In either case, it's all good.

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RE: Training to cum on command - 10/30/2008 2:35:17 PM

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I've seen demonstrations at parties by peopl who were trained to orgasm on control, so I don't dispute it. Just isn't anything I've ever been able to do myself.

Dom: Don't come until I tell you.....

Me: Umm, about that......umm...sorry?

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RE: Training to cum on command - 10/30/2008 6:52:33 PM

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Ya know, tazzy, I was actually wondering the other day if women can have wet dreams as well. This answers that question.

quite wet
quite hot
quite delicious

grins

glad i could answer your question

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RE: Training to cum on command - 10/31/2008 12:04:40 AM

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Now if any Domme's out there would be happy to give me more ideas on how to be susceptible or any other ideas on how to make it work, id enjoy learning more about how to learn this skill

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RE: Training to cum on command - 10/31/2008 6:00:51 AM

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i agree with you....a place where you cum and have to do so quietly.....just the thought is almost enough.

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RE: Training to cum on command - 10/31/2008 12:20:14 PM

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My master does the same thing, I find it quite wonderful though frustrating at times. I believe you've hit it in your explanation though, its the control , and the ability to cause orgasm anywhere at any time

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RE: Training to cum on command - 10/31/2008 3:59:20 PM

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I've recently begun experimenting with this with the help of a close friend. Although I think I probably have a leg up because I can bring myself to orgasm without touch (this requires alot of focus).
I'm sure the process is probably differant for everyone.
We use a count down system 5 4 3 2 1 coupled with webcam and Yahoo voice for part of this. We do not cyber or have phone sex, he simply provides me with the scenarios to use later and randomly does the count down to test my response to it.
When I'm alone I masturbate (using touch for now) and the images my friend provided, when I get close I begin the count down (trying to get the #1 to be the reward). I can certainly see how this whole concept can work.
After only a few days when I hear or see the numbers there is a definate noteable physical response. If I can achieve this with touch, next I'm going to try it without.
I hope this helps you to understand the process a little more , I was scepticle at first also

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RE: Training to cum on command - 11/7/2008 3:49:18 PM

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I have had some success with CoC but it seems to be just a matter of repition and timing. It's lovely to see the rewards in the end though. Well worth a try!

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RE: Training to cum on command - 11/7/2008 10:10:57 PM

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Are we talking clitoral orgasm? very different from a stimulus full orgasm? tests were done back in the late 70s which showed women could have clitoral orgasms with just a word but full orgasms could only be brought on by stimulation to the said area. Perhaps they are wrong but I have tried this training method with fem subs and whilst they do all the right noises I don't ever feel that pulsating true orgasm on my fingers.

I guess I'm a sceptic but if my man stopped me just when I was reaching an orgasm I know I would just loose the whole thing and would probably knock his block off.

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RE: Training to cum on command - 11/8/2008 12:46:33 AM

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To come in late, I'd like to address a few earlier posts.

The first, one said, "This should be taught in medical school." Actually, it's taught in beginning psychology. It's exactly classical conditioning. Take an unlearned stimulus (in this case, whatever brings you to orgasm naturally), pair it with a learned stimulus (a word, phrase, or tone of voice...or, even a smell, as some scent train), be consistant with the pairing, et viola! Pavlov was a genius. It does take some work, however, and orgasm restrictions should be in place when the training is not taking place (ie when the submissive is alone, with others, etc).

Second, about being able to unlearn this...learned behaviors are never really unlearned, according to the extinction theory. If it took one month for you to learn to cum on command, no matter the length of time that had elapsed, it would only take a few tries to get you to do it again.

I have trained one submissive by scent, and my current Daddy is training me to cum on command.

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RE: Training to cum on command - 11/8/2008 11:31:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: piigwh0re

Do many Dominants use this kind of training?
How does this training make the submissives/slaves feel?

For me it made me feel completely submissive. I knew that at any time, where ever we were I could be made to cum with just a single word. I loved the control it gave to my Dominant. At times it was used as a punishment because when it was used repeatedly it would cause my muscles in my lower stomach to cramp. I was amazed that someone could control my body that way. I find sometimes I miss that type of control by my Master.

Daddy can cause me to orgasm by touching my ear or shoulder, which is fabulous, but I would really like to get to the point that he can do it by just saying a word. What a powerful thing that would be for him, I am sure I would fall to my knees and worship him more than I already do!
After reading all of these posts, we are definitely moving forward with the idea of word triggers.

Hopefully,
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RE: Training to cum on command - 11/8/2008 11:56:01 AM

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I have, do and will use similar techniques. One term for it could be "Post Hypnotic Suggestion" Knoledge of the technique, time and patience is all that is required. After all if a Master is able to sexually arouse a girl without direct comments ot physical contact how simple is it to make her and another cum on commant? Am I prepared to teach it? No.

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RE: Training to cum on command - 11/8/2008 1:43:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: piigwh0re

Pavlov's dogs is the way that I look at it. If you have a submissive that is open to that kind of training, it is very easy. I was able to hold my orgasms until given permission, so when the permission was given it was a word or phrase that was the same every time that i was allowed to cum. The word is associated with the action of cumming and within a month I could be triggered to cum without any stimulation. It just takes using the same word every time to set that word in the submissives mind. Once trained it is easier to add other words as well.

EEEEK! That's a lot of work! I've achieved this with all my girlfriends and have trained most of my subbies within a matter of minutes with the use of hypnosis. Making a person orgasm and cum on command is fantastic fun and even more enjoyable when you have many many methods availible to you to do it.

I program them to orgasm a different orgasm on command per trigger word and depending on what number I count down from dictates the intensity of the orgasm. Once I've established different ways for them to orgasm on command with different levels of intensity, I program in how to physically cum on command, since orgasming and cumming are not mutually exclusive. Then I teach them how to "Ankh" the orgasm and I toss in combos.... I'm a crazy nut when it comes to comboing.... Watching someone react as the intensity builds with each number I count down and each additional type of orgasm.... mmmmm, beautiful.... and then to see them in that drunken like orgasmic stupor of bliss.... it's such a thrill. This kind of thing is my favorite fetish and it really brings my dommy side out. A total power exchange there.

Unfortunately, I've not encountered anyone else that can do hypnosis or rather, has the confidence to perform the same tricks on me with the needed skill to return the favor suitably.

One of my favorite memories with my Ex was with her, my best friend and I eating in a chinese resturant. I'm telling my best friend about Nuero Linguistic Programming (NLP) and how it's a great tool for so many things and it can even be used in the bedroom. The best friend asks "OH? Like how?" I smile and lear at my girlfriend, utter one word and then give a brief countdown from 10 or 5. While what ensued was not anything loud and attention getting like in "When Harry Met Sally", anyone that was paying attention *knew* that she was orgasming. *chuckles evilly*

I love the feeling of control I have over another when I do this. And it's that feeling of surrender and trust that I seek to feel when I eventually find someone else to give myself to.

With my subbies, I use it as both a reward and a punisment.... One of my subbies is my subbie because she is addicted to hypnotic suggestion and we have a deep bond of trust that was engendered from the word GO due to our mutual empathic abilties.... with her, punishment is with holding..... with them all, punishment can be saying a trigger, starting a count down and then leaving it hanging.... *suddenly gets a new idea for progamming into hux subs later on*

*chuckles wickedly* Sometimes I even use it to get my way with them. I told one to scurry off to bed and get some sleep. She refused..... I orgasmed her into passing out... *chuckles again* Not for the first time or the last time... though for the first time as a deliberate intention.

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RE: Training to cum on command - 11/8/2008 1:46:36 PM

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Cumming on demand now that is the easy part.

Hard part is learning how to stop on command, ouch.

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RE: Training to cum on command - 11/8/2008 1:53:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: allthatjaz

Are we talking clitoral orgasm? very different from a stimulus full orgasm? tests were done back in the late 70s which showed women could have clitoral orgasms with just a word but full orgasms could only be brought on by stimulation to the said area. Perhaps they are wrong but I have tried this training method with fem subs and whilst they do all the right noises I don't ever feel that pulsating true orgasm on my fingers.

I guess I'm a sceptic but if my man stopped me just when I was reaching an orgasm I know I would just loose the whole thing and would probably knock his block off.

Actually a woman can officially orgasm 7 different ways.... and when I'm done with them, that's just the beginning number.... Grab a copy of "The Art Of Female Ejaculation" by Lisa Longhofer if you want to learn these basic orgasm and more...

Combining this with hypnosis takes some skill, especially with the hypnosis aspect of things. ^_^

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RE: Training to cum on command - 11/8/2008 2:13:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: velvetluxe

I just can't understand how this is possible without any physical stimulation? far be it from me to dispute what anyone else says about their own experiences- this is purely based upon my own- but whilst I have been trained to wait for permission and can therefore orgasm when commanded, it is only after a period of sexual physical contact that this is possible. I am quite interested in the training process to come on command with no touching whatsoever and I am incredibly envious of those for whom this ability comes naturally.

In how I set this up, it's all in the level of trust and how I word it inorder to get them to orgasm on command. I've developed a particular wording that they take as fact due to the bond of trust with me and *our* experience in various things together.

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RE: Training to cum on command - 11/8/2008 7:21:19 PM

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I guess I'm a sceptic but if my man stopped me just when I was reaching an orgasm I know I would just loose the whole thing and would probably knock his block off.

That is why you and I would be unlikely to get along. Were I to stop you in mid orgasm (something I do from time to time for training purposes), and you attempted to "knock my block off", it is almost certain that you would be in need of dentures and may have problems walikng for a few months as knee caps mended. Bloody silly comment to make and one which will not gain you qany respect by Dominants.

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ORIGINAL: Hathalud

Combining this with hypnosis takes some skill, especially with the hypnosis aspect of things. ^_^

I agree and this is one reason I will not teach this technique. Unless some poor sod were to pay what would be an extraordinarily large sum of money to train him or her in hypnosis and have him or her legally certified. It would be easier on the bank account to register for an accredited course of hypnosis

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RE: Training to cum on command - 11/8/2008 9:54:56 PM

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A previous submissive of mine was trained to cum on command by her previous Dominant (IE - the one prior to me). It was a lot of fun to play with her, although once we moved from D/s to simply being friends, she expressed frustration with still being dependent on the words (or rather, the word) of another to bring her to climax. So it has it's ups and downs, from what I've experienced.

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RE: Training to cum on command - 11/8/2008 10:39:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: piigwh0re

My first Dominant trained me to cum on command using certain words and phrases. My current Master does not use this training so my training is no longer active.

Do many Dominants use this kind of training?
How does this training make the submissives/slaves feel?

For me it made me feel completely submissive. I knew that at any time, where ever we were I could be made to cum with just a single word. I loved the control it gave to my Dominant. At times it was used as a punishment because when it was used repeatedly it would cause my muscles in my lower stomach to cramp. I was amazed that someone could control my body that way. I find sometimes I miss that type of control by my Master.

cum on command, huh? Hmmmm..lovely thought, but somehow i remain skeptical about this subject. lots claim they do it, though.

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RE: Training to cum on command - 11/8/2008 11:48:03 PM

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Tell me your word. Maybe it'll work on me - I've never had any orgasm ever. Darnit, can't believe you can like, cum while walking. You're sooo lucky.

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