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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/17/2008 12:24:55 AM

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Everything with regards to image and class, style etc. is in perfect condition. My profile and photo is testament to that. All that is needed is a slight boost of confidence. I have been to a few events, and from experience they have been rather flat in that all the women, or dominant women, seem to be impatient, and rude. At least here in London. Maybe I ought to move to the USA.

Your profile photo is of a headless person in a pair of dark shorts. That doesn't say much about your image or style on a physical level or set you apart in any way. You write well, but it doesn't appear as though you're seeking a relationship so much as fantasy fulfillment on the short term.

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/18/2008 5:57:01 AM

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Thank you for your honesty, MsSaskia!

That is probably true with regards to the fantasy fulfillment. Bearing in mind, I am still quite new to being a submissive. So open to all that which comes my way. With a pinch of salt.

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/25/2008 2:51:01 PM

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Well, today I spoke with a Pro Domme via this here site. And the price for an hour is just extraordinary!

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/25/2008 2:59:57 PM

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Interesting; out of curiosity, what's the going rate?
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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/25/2008 3:28:15 PM

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Well, today I spoke with a Pro Domme via this here site. And the price for an hour is just extraordinary!

I'll do it for half and even throw in a beer, tortilla chips and guacamole when we're done. Perhaps I'll advertise myself as the Foodie Domme. You gotta have an angle.

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/25/2008 4:02:05 PM

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I'll do it for Chocolate and Shoes.

**JUST KIDDING!**

Gees. The Mail I'll get for that one. *sigh*

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/25/2008 4:06:17 PM

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I'll do it for Chocolate and Shoes.

**JUST KIDDING!**

Like hell you are. If you'd said you'd do it for a new lawn mower and slug repellent, then I'd have believed you.

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/25/2008 4:14:07 PM

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Oh baby! What I would give for someone to clean out my basement! WHOO HOO! I might even put on my black leather corset and paton leather boots, put them in pink lacy panties and flog them the entire time while bitching that their penis is to small. Yeah baby! What's your fantasy? Whatever you want... Just clean that crap out!

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/25/2008 4:19:00 PM

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Now there is a dream. A Dominatrix in chocolate boots.

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/25/2008 4:33:18 PM

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I thought all Domme Boots TASTED like chocolate.

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/25/2008 7:50:23 PM

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If I can lick your boots I know they will taste like chocolate

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/25/2008 7:54:10 PM

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If I can lick your boots I know they well taste like chocolate

Erm, I hate to disappoint you, but the brown stuff on our boots isn't usually chocolate.

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/25/2008 7:56:52 PM

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I would suggest looking offline.
Go to Kinky events and such: kinky ladies will be there. Most of them will be non-professionals.

It's not just pro's whose dominance involves money. It is usually less direct than paying for a service up front... but for example, I know a lot of poly households where full financial disclosure and at least partial financial submission are a requirement to beg a certain level of 'collaring'.

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/25/2008 8:03:58 PM

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A mean Mistress duo to inflict verbal abuse and light pain upon my body and mind without having to pay for their time.

Not sure if this falls into the category or not. BUT it irks me that so many subs see D/s as the dominant taking endlessly and the submissive giving endlessly. Dominance takes time, patience, an emotional investment at times, and a whole slew of other things that should be much more valuable than money, from both sides. It truly is an investment. OK, so you want two (hot: you're young, and you want two of them, it's implied) chicks beating on you (lightly) without any expectation of return. Unless these two are very mild sadists who enjoy not hurting you MUCH, what are you giving to them while taking their time and energy entertaining you? I can see your gain here, but not theirs, but yet you are unwilling to offer anything physical labor wise, skill wise, money wise, etc.

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/25/2008 10:43:38 PM

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Oh baby! What I would give for someone to clean out my basement! WHOO HOO! I might even put on my black leather corset and paton leather boots, put them in pink lacy panties and flog them the entire time while bitching that their penis is to small. Yeah baby! What's your fantasy? Whatever you want... Just clean that crap out!

In all honesty, I've dated men who would do most any work I needed; the only reason I don't have a basement cleaner is because my basement isn't bad, my life isn't suited to having strangers coming over, and I want a whole lot of other things besides basement cleaning.

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/26/2008 4:00:30 AM

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If I can lick your boots I know they well taste like chocolate

Erm, I hate to disappoint you, but the brown stuff on our boots isn't usually chocolate.

True. I have three furry dogs.

Tell you what Mummyman....you get my basement cleaned out enough that I can set up my dungeon in there and you can be the first to try it out.

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In all honesty, I've dated men who would do most any work I needed; the only reason I don't have a basement cleaner is because my basement isn't bad, my life isn't suited to having strangers coming over, and I want a whole lot of other things besides basement cleaning.

Lucky, lucky woman.

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/26/2008 7:59:50 AM

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But I can GIVE in. Isn't that what is most important?

I think a lot of people assume this means a lot more than it does, actually. Your submissive nature is an important point of compatibility, yes, because it means you've eliminated a major point of INcompatibility with a dominant woman. But the fact that you are submissive when encountering a dominant woman is really not that much different from the fact that you're male, when encountering a heterosexual woman. Men who stand there bleating "What? I'm a submissive, what more do you want?" are always doomed to failure; it really makes no more sense than saying to a woman "I have a penis, you have a vagina! Isn't that what is most important?"

Money has never had a single thing to do with my selection of male companionship; if anything, I inevitably find that men with a lot of money are completely incompatible with me as people. It usually takes about a date and a half at most to figure out that we never need to see each other again. Rich men tend to think that they're in control regardless of their D/S needs because they have a fat wallet: even if they're just "wining and dining", rather than purchasing the services of a sex worker outright, they think that a woman has to follow the script they've written.

No thanks.

I prefer scruffy, charmingly roguish artist types with a heart of gold.

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/26/2008 8:11:15 AM

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If I can lick your boots I know they well taste like chocolate

Erm, I hate to disappoint you, but the brown stuff on our boots isn't usually chocolate.

Which means that occasionally its chocolate?

Yum!

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/26/2008 9:32:01 AM

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If I can lick your boots I know they well taste like chocolate

Erm, I hate to disappoint you, but the brown stuff on our boots isn't usually chocolate.

Which means that occasionally its chocolate?

Yum!

There's only one way to find out . . . .

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/26/2008 9:34:09 AM

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Well, today I spoke with a Pro Domme via this here site. And the price for an hour is just extraordinary!

Of course.  ProDommes don't work for $10/hour.

I'm a lifestyle Domme, have never worked as a pro - that said, I've known quite a few over the years and have a lot of respect for them.

Assumming that you spoke with a Pro who really does treat this like a profession, she's already invested $$$$$ in:  an extensive variety of equipment (a simple flogger starts at about $100, a good signal whip at least $300), an extensive wardrobe (fetish wear is VERY expensive - easily a couple hundred dollars per outfit), an equiped dungeon (cost of rent/purchasing space plus furnishing it), advertising (setting up a professional website, advertising in BDSM-specific publications, a dedicated phone line, a computer and email, etc), plus an accountant and a lawyer on retainer.     Add into that the time and effort learning about BDSM (books, DVDs, seminars, conferences, etc), honing her skills, spending time vetting out potential clients (most of whom are simply wasting her time), spending a great deal of time beforehand preparing for your scene and spending time afterwards cleaning up after your scene, etc. I'm sure more could be added to this list, but you get the idea.

It's mind boggling how much really goes into a "simple one hour appointment" with a ProDomme.   What you're paying for is your % for use of all of the above, not just an hour of a woman's time who happens to have all of the above. A couple hundred dollars per hour is the norm, and for many prodommes, they're not making a huge profit even charging that.

On the flip side - as a lifestyle Domme - I've invested in the education, the equipment, have a room in my home as a dedicated playspace - and while I've done it because it's something that *I* wanted, I'll tell you - it's rather irksome when subs (often the inexperienced) take it for granted that all of these things are available to them and all they have to contribute is showing up.

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