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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/26/2008 9:38:52 AM   
Venatrix


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On the flip side - as a lifestyle Domme - I've invested in the education, the equipment, have a room in my home as a dedicated playspace - and while I've done it because it's something that *I* wanted, I'll tell you -  it's rather irksome when subs (often the inexperienced) take it for granted that all of these things are available to them and all they have to contribute is showing up.


If I could have that tattooed as a reminder onto the arms of every submissive male out there, I would.  And I *hate* tattoos.

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/26/2008 9:38:53 AM   
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If I can lick your boots I know they well taste like chocolate


Erm, I hate to disappoint you, but the brown stuff on our boots isn't usually chocolate.


Which means that occasionally its chocolate?

Yum!



There's only one way to find out . . . .


Check if there are any ants?


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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/26/2008 10:20:42 AM   
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Well, yes, of course.

I wouldn't marry anyone without knowing what shape their finances were in and without coming to some agreement about how the bills are going to be paid, and I would not feel very comfortable with eating my small bowl of beans and rice and putting a shawl round my shoulders because the heat's turned back  as my "partner"  sips his VSOP and fools round with the latest iPhone or tech gadget and talks about the lovely trip he just took abroad. If we all share, and we're transparent with each other about where the money is going, we all can have some money to spend on fun things like neat cooking ingredients (me)  guns (my husband) and tech toys (our Boy) and everyone gets something.

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/26/2008 11:02:10 AM   
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You know, I've heard so many men complain about the things women reject them over (money, height, hair, clothes style) when it's obvious that the real problem is their attitude. Sometimes it seems like men can do no wrong because every time a woman dumps a man, it just means that she's shallow and materialistic.

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/26/2008 11:32:41 AM   
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Tributes and a whole slew of other money-orientated gifts, treats etc. but mostly money is expected to cover for their time.

How would a sub with low income go about approaching a Mistress without "money" being the benefactor?

Cheers!


I really don't care about someone's bank account.   My only thing is you must be able to support "yourself".    Unfortunately, I am not wealthy, but I can take care of myself, so I don't need to live off of someone.   I am not in the position to take care of someone financially and even if I were, I would not want to.

I want my slave to work, I think it's important for a person to grow to have outside interactions with others, such as in the workplace or where ever.   Even if he is rich and can support himself without working, he must have some connection to the outside world, I don't want him laying around all day, or as several have suggested in emails, locked in a cage until I need them.

I am not into the "money" aspect, but I am not willing to go below the standards of where I am now.   We have to be able to stay in a comfortable zone.

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/29/2008 3:50:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MlleVolanges

You know, I've heard so many men complain about the things women reject them over (money, height, hair, clothes style) when it's obvious that the real problem is their attitude. Sometimes it seems like men can do no wrong because every time a woman dumps a man, it just means that she's shallow and materialistic.



It's especially funny when the complains come from men who are not really "movie star material" but think they deserve at least a super model, oh but she should be able to cook too....

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/29/2008 4:14:47 PM   
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Well, today I spoke with a Pro Domme via this here site. And the price for an hour is just extraordinary!


Of course.  ProDommes don't work for $10/hour.   

I'm a lifestyle Domme, have never worked as a pro - that said, I've known quite a few over the years and have a lot of respect for them. 

Assumming that you spoke with a Pro who really does treat this like a profession, she's already invested $$$$$ in:  an extensive variety of equipment (a simple flogger starts at about $100, a good signal whip at least $300), an extensive wardrobe (fetish wear is VERY expensive - easily a couple hundred dollars per outfit), an equiped dungeon (cost of rent/purchasing space plus furnishing it), advertising (setting up a professional website, advertising in BDSM-specific publications, a dedicated phone line, a computer and email, etc), plus an accountant and a lawyer on retainer.     Add into that the time and effort learning about BDSM (books, DVDs, seminars, conferences, etc), honing her skills, spending time vetting out potential clients (most of whom are simply wasting her time), spending a great deal of time beforehand preparing for your scene and spending time afterwards cleaning up after your scene, etc.  I'm sure more could be added to this list, but you get the idea.

It's mind boggling how much really goes into a "simple one hour appointment" with a ProDomme.   What you're paying for is your % for use of all of the above, not just an hour of a woman's time who happens to have all of the above.  A couple hundred dollars per hour is the norm, and for many prodommes, they're not making a huge profit even charging that.  

On the flip side - as a lifestyle Domme - I've invested in the education, the equipment, have a room in my home as a dedicated playspace - and while I've done it because it's something that *I* wanted, I'll tell you -  it's rather irksome when subs (often the inexperienced) take it for granted that all of these things are available to them and all they have to contribute is showing up.



I used to do it part time, one of the reasons because nobody would teach me for free and fair is fair, if a Pro teaches you, she does want something back, why should she waste her time for nothing? I had no issue with that, the money went almost exclusively into equipment and fetish wear. The thigh high boots somebody might admire cost more than a session, toys and whips (my fondness), the prices are staggering. I don't have play space at home, but certainly most toys and then some and yes, it is a bit tiresome if people just take it for granted and then get all snobbish and cranky that you don't have your own basement (including medical room) outfitted as the perfect dungeon, preferably when they also hand you a shopping list with what they want you to do to them and stress it is "for your pleasure", bahhhh

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RE: Is Money A Be-All, End-All? - 11/29/2008 4:52:52 PM   
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       I'm somewhere in the middle as I'm here to find a partner/sub/lover .  But just by virtue of being on here , I've had more than a few request a no-strings tribute session , so I eventually decided to accomodate some local to me,  that I favored .
 
     Usually money has not been a problem - but especially in the present financial climate , I'm willing to be flexible with someone who has some marketable skills to trade .   Having an older house , good handyman skills in particular are vaulable to me .
 
      Try and find someone who wants/needs something that you are able to offer .   Maybe you're exceptional at giving massages ,  or cooking and serving guests ?   Or painting rooms etc .   Assess yourself and see what you come up with .   You just need a currency you both can agree on .
 
       Otherwise , you need to click at a much more personal level that shows potential for a real connection .         Good luck !

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