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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 9/21/2009 5:32:05 PM   
slaveyslave


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ORIGINAL: DomCoupleBeijing

Mark,

I'm sorry for all the off-topic responses to your post. Gasp -- maybe you're not "experienced" enough for this website. (If my reply were to resemble the others, this is where I'd add some completely irrelevant remark that's more about me and my particularities then about your question.)

Your basic idea of "stripping down and building up" is shared by a lot of dominants, real or "fantasy"-based. BDSM is all about contradictions, including the contradiction of excess desire, realizing it and living with it. Very few submissives are capable of taking the plunge and living "in the lifestyle" 24/7, whether they have the opportunity or not, and even though they might often fantasize about it. Some do.

Given that BDSM is, again, an excessive desire, you don't get more "points" for a 24/7 relationship than for the more common weekend-warrior variation; similarly, having a whole host of weekend-warrior Boy-Scout badges doesn't make you an expert on BDSM relationships.

I think shaving a submissive's head would be very psychologically powerful. I would personally love to have the opportunity. Also, I doubt personally doubt a shaved head would preclude a decent job. Maybe if you're financially successful enough, you can remove your submissive from the top-down job market. That's the sad underlying current -- most 'slaves' are in fact slaves, just not to their significant others! I suspect that a formal study would reveal that BDSM psychology occurs most readily in countries like the U.S. (I'm from the U.S.) that lack a proper social security net and that possess a highly polarized income distribution. Given a BDSM context, "trickle down" economics takes on its true face!.........


i am a slave and i am successful. i hate that people assume that sub are doormats to the world and are not productive. People assume that a slave is a leach that clings to a more successful Dominant person but i don't see it that way. i understand that is the way we viewed though.

slavey

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 9/22/2009 3:18:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bigsweetmaster

I am in search of a true slave to belong to me in a 247 D/s relationship.
My thought is that all subs build up a lot of walls to get through life and to be normal. I feel that a sub must be stripped of everything and brought down to a very basic level to be rebuilt into a slave.

I think that taking away all the slave's clothing and shaving their heads is a good why to remove all the barriers.

My question is, would you do this?

Mark



Although I disagree with your sweeping generalisations about * all subs* and although I'm not a bloke or a dom......

........I don't *need* my head shaved to be where I am. There are plenty of ways to assess whether I've removed any barriers without doing that and some of them have been far more challenging than a smooth bonce.

For some people a shaved head would be a life-challenging thing and to others it'd be a * bit of a bloody nuisance*.

The reason for it being done would make all the difference........ It could bring enormous closeness and pride or deep, crushing resentment. Know your victim.

.......and yes, he'd do it....just not for the reasons you stated.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 9/22/2009 8:58:45 AM   
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Then there's basic survival that your hair can offer.....
http://www.lemondrop.com/2009/09/22/woman-survives-week-in-wilderness-by-sucking-water-from-her-hair/

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 9/22/2009 9:11:09 AM   
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Although I would do anything for my M, I also have to live outside in the real world. I doubt it would go over very well in my profession if I showed up with a bald head.

While fantasies of being a home bound slave, naked, with a shaved head might appeal to someone, most of us still have to live in reality and therefore have to conform to what society insists on (even if we don't agree with it).

Anyway..I think he would miss pulling my hair while taking me from behind.


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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 9/22/2009 1:18:46 PM   
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Hrm... shaved my head in my er... earlier hard core punker days (waaaaaaaaaaaaay before Goth!)... trust me.. not my best look..

I know that is not the point of shaving a womans  head.. well, unless you look lovely shaved... but no.

I probably would not submit to that.  I don't think I would want to be in a relationship where that kind of 'breaking down' goes on... and honestly... I do not need it (or want it) to reach a very deep and rich submission. In fact.. that sort of thing tends to send me in the WRONG direction.



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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 9/26/2009 6:49:53 AM   
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I know it's obvious but why not just try to find someone who already has a shaved head? that way You'll know they're open to the idea of it. I know it's not quite what you're looking for but I'm guessing that the reason most people have hair is because they're rather attached to it (no pun intended) and therefore [probably] aren't looking t be dragged off and have it shaved off.

Over time the hair'll grow back and need shaving-that'll be Your job and the longer You leave it between shaves the more fun for You when it comes time to do it again.

This is the best solution, IMO because as S/some have already said, hair tends to be popular for work, going out etc, so when You meet someone who's got a shaved head You'll know they're already living their life without hair and can therefore cope without it.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 9/29/2009 8:26:12 AM   
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I admit that in V for Vendetta, this treatment was amazingly hot.  However, even in that sequence, it made the character very,very angry at first.  In the real world, she might stay that way.  Would I submit to it?  Yes, but only if all my partners were in agreement.  While I have one Master, I am somewhat like communal property, with all my partners being able to contribute guidelines for my treatment and use.  Thankfully, Master has no interest in shaving my head.  Like others have mentioned here, however, I do not think that shaving my head is necessary to tear down my walls.  When he discovers them, he is fine pulling them down one by one.  Sometimes ones walls are there for a reason and tearing them down can have consequences.  Tearing them all down at once may break your slave in a less than desired fashion.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 9/29/2009 11:32:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bigsweetmaster

My question is, would you do this?


Nope. I might do it for someone who has already proven to a devotated and loving owner but there is no way in hell you could get me to do it right off the bat. If Valyraen ordered it... well... I'd do it. But quite unhappily and I would be protesting and probably sobbing the whole time. He's just not that mean and the only reason I'd do it for him is because he's my owner of four years and my husband - well soon to be anyway.

I don't believe would accomplish anything but make me resentful honestly. Perhaps make me wonder what had ticked him off so much that he would take something I love so dearly as my long red hair is deliberately dyed to allow me to act out certain parts that I thrive on doing. I would wonder what he would take next.

Probably not the ideal response but... *shrugs*

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 9/29/2009 11:35:26 AM >


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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 9/29/2009 11:33:34 AM   
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Whats the big deal people?

Some slaves are asked to get body parts pierced, have names branded on them, collars worn around the neck, some even WELDED around the neck ect, And We're freaking out about HAIR! It's JUST hair. It grows back.

I understand the recalcitrance if you or one of your family members is a cancer survivor or victim  though, and problems with work ect.

But really people, its just hair.....

If Sir asked me to shave my head, I most likely would in difference to Him. Really, they have some pretty damn cool wigs out now, if it became a problem for me to be bald.



Some people would freak out about tattoos or brands. Hair isn't just freakin' hair to some people. I appreciate the sentiment that it is and I understand it to a point but, in the end, to me it isn't just hair. The way my collar isn't just a stupid necklace.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 9/29/2009 2:14:19 PM   
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I have read  most of the posts  on this topic and find it rather difficult to see how  raining on someone else for their  fetish or fantasy is of any value to anyone except to enhance your own  superficial sense of self worth. I have shaved many females that decided to  develop into full time 24/7 slaves, the wearing of  any head covering at all was forbidden until they achieved a level of obedience and  performance as a developed bondage sensory deprived sexual slave. By removing all the hair the hoods and gags are easier to put into place, the shower and clean up from  a lot of different  toilet and multiple partner activities is greatly improved.
To take this to a practical level  the full head shave allows one to use a full head liquid latex  hood, masks, posture  devices that run from forehead to the lower back etc! Once a  heavy layer  of dried latex is established  it is so easy to  sculpt them into  puppies,  ponies or space creatures , completely enclosed and isolated, ear plugged and  only a breathing tube  penetrating to the outside world. Effective, real sensory deprivation without the headache of the hair!

Intense, yes, effective, yes, for everyone obviously NOT but for those that find it a release and a way to enhance their own slave development , why not! Just like leather cuffs, some want them fur lined and some want them to be full hide thick and tight! So who here has the  right to say one syllable more than  NO Thank YOU, NOT for ME . Yes I have done this for 35 years and NO it is NOT a fantasy it is a way of  creating sisterhood and fellowship inside a BD/SM experience.  Go ask the nearest  preacher his view on shaved pussy, and you will hear most of the lame assed comments most of you have  heaped on to this  young man.  Go Figure!            I will look forward to the day when acceptance of REAL BD/SM activities do not  endanger the self worth of  "beautiful" women!  The ADASHI 

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 9/29/2009 2:29:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AdashiPagoda
Go ask the nearest  preacher his view on shaved pussy, and you will hear most of the lame assed comments most of you have  heaped on to this  young man.  Go Figure!            I will look forward to the day when acceptance of REAL BD/SM activities do not  endanger the self worth of  "beautiful" women!  The ADASHI 


Actually all the preachers/rabbis who I respect wouldn't care, including the Baptist pastor I grew up with. I am somewhat curious what you mean by "real bdsm".

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 4/26/2010 5:34:18 PM   
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Nope

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 4/26/2010 5:38:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bigsweetmaster

This was more a question for slaves and their thoughts. But it did explain why an older dude was viewing my profile. 


He made a lot of sense, even if he's not a slave, you might want to reread his post and maybe listen a bit.

Oh and expect a lot of people to view your profile, I did just now to see how old you were.


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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 4/26/2010 5:39:19 PM   
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As someone who has had her head shaved (friend had cancer, solidarity and all that), it wouldn't devastate me to do so again, if it was something my Sir decided he really wanted of me.  It certainly would not be a deal-breaker for me, but nor would it be something I would particularly want to do. Fortunately, my Sir likes me to have hair, and is often refusing my requests to cut my hair shorter than it already is.

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 4/26/2010 9:24:35 PM   
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In response to slaveyslave:

Maybe for some people the appeal of BDSM 'slavery' is precisely not to be productive.

Maybe they want their surplus to be sexual, not material. Sounds not half bad, eh?

(...how old is this thread?!)

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 4/26/2010 11:21:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DavanKael

Not just no: hell fuck no. 
I'm fond of my hair and, well, my chest hurts if I flounce around without some support for too long. 
Davan


Sheesh... yeah, bring those boring old "practicalities" that come with real life into this why-don'cha!

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 4/26/2010 11:23:29 PM   
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i did let Someone shave my head once....was a fantasy of His....

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RE: Female slaves Headshaved - 4/27/2010 12:01:03 AM   
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