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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/2/2012 10:13:01 AM   
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I think part of the trouble is a lot of inexperienced forced fem boys try to hit up women into Female Supremacy or Feminism. It doesn't bother me particularly when a guy is into Forced Fem, or that they thin it is humiliating, it bothers me when he considers that aspect to be in support of Female Supremacy or Feminism. Shoddy logic, there. If women are so sacred and superior, why on earth would you be humiliated by being allowed to try and become one? Why should anyone need to force you to become that? It means either you're stuck in a fantasy loop and not ready to actually engage anyone as a real person, or you're a hypocrite.

I have other issues with Force Fem. Many of those who mention it right off the bat are also bottom-toppers seeking fetish delivery systems. I object to being made an excuse for other people's deviations. Own your kinks, damnit. Which isn't to say I'm against actual forced activities, rather, don't claim to be doing things "for me" when I did not expect or force you to. If you like to wear women's panties, own up. Don't beg me to wear them and then claim you're only wearing them to make me happy. Of course, the scenario where I make you wear them and actually enforce that you enjoy it is legit. It's a fine, fine line.

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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/2/2012 3:40:21 PM   
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As far as shoes go. MAKE SURE THEY FIT! If they don't RETURN THEM! Not all companies size 9 is the same and sometimes the style makes a difference; don't be afraid to return/exchange. All my shoes have 4" heels (I can walk in them fine and it's a guilty pleasure don't hate on me >.<) and the ones that fit me I can wear indefinitely and be comfortable in; fitting makes a huge difference.

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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/2/2012 7:32:48 PM   
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Not all companies size 9 is the same and sometimes the style makes a difference; don't be afraid to return/exchange. All my shoes have 4" heels


So true. Also, the higher the heel, the narrower they are likely to run. I wear a US 6.5AA but I usually can get away with a 6B in flat or low-heeled shoes. For heels 4 inches and up, I get a 6.5 because the curve will make them run smaller. If you want to wear very high heels (5+ inches) but don't want to kill your feet, try getting shoes with platforms. The height of the platform will counter the height of the heels. You'll feel like you're wearing 3 inch heels when you're wearing 6 inches.


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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/2/2012 9:02:56 PM   
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A couple of points:

The great majority of my cross-dressing has been in vanilla situations. In those, I do try to blend in (as far as I can, given my size). I try to keep the make-up toned down (and have gotten compliments for it), wear something reasonable for the context, and so on. There have been a few exceptions, as for costume parties and similar events when dressing more outlandishly or eye-catchingly is expected.

That said, I wouldn't mind having a context in which I *could* wear the more extreme things -- the corsets, the petticoats, the evening gowns, costumes, fetish wear, glamorous make-up, and so on. Someplace where it felt more 'safe' to stand out, or where I could play a role appropriate for the kind of outfit given. Sure, 98% of my cross-dressing may involve mainly cotton, denim, and sensible shoes, but that doesn't mean I'm not attracted to trying the French-Maid outfit now and then.

When I think of CDing in a BDSM context, the term I've been trying to coin is a bit of a variant on "forced feminization" -- what I call "enforced feminization." Some Dommes seem to object that it's not really 'forced' if it's my idea (a conflict that, really, is present to some degree in almost every area of BDSM, but which doesn't seem to bother most people most of the time). I'd like to find someone whose attitude is something like: "OK, you like to dress up? Fine. But you'll do it on my terms." She might hold me to some standards of appearance (or decide to alter my style to fit her own tastes). She might keep a close eye on my behavior -- not just in terms of how I walk or sit, but things like being a more meticulous housekeeper or watching my diet. She might insist on keeping me in the feminine role for longer than I might be inclined to -- I admit I get lazy at times -- and push me to do more things in public, go places and interact with people in ways I current usually chicken out on. She could probably find many ways to use it for behavior modification in general.

Really, in some ways I'd almost like to have a "dress-up partner" or playmate at least as much as a traditional Domme, in that respect.

In the main, though, what I want is someone who accepts it, or (much preferably) embraces it as part of me. Exactly how it would fit into the relationship is something we could work out. (Same with other kink, really -- I can envision myself happy in a relationship where kinky play was just an occasional treat, or one where D/s fairly central to the whole dynamic; what I can't see is a relationship with someone who just was not interested or willing to participate at all.) But it's not something that's going away.

And sometimes that is so very, very frustrating. The deck seems to be stacked against me in hunting for relationships to begin with: I lack confidence, I'm middle aged, I am not a financial success, and I'm emotionally on the needy side. Throw in bondage and crossdressing and sometimes I often just want to scream, cry, and hurt something.

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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/3/2012 8:20:53 AM   
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quote:

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And sometimes that is so very, very frustrating. The deck seems to be stacked against me in hunting for relationships to begin with: I lack confidence, I'm middle aged, I am not a financial success, and I'm emotionally on the needy side. Throw in bondage and crossdressing and sometimes I often just want to scream, cry, and hurt something.



Pinniped: I have read your responses to these topics for the past what...3-4 years now. The part I quoted seemingly has not changed. You know, as humans we tend to get comfortable in a spot - asleep even in our own lives. What we have is not optimal, and what we lack is not painful enough to move us along to actual life changing action to seek something else.

But life is what -we- make of it. My stats also do not vary much from what you put down there - I am 48, I own my own business but am severely in debt with it, and yea I also can be a bit needy at times. And yet, I have always understood that those things do not in any way make me an unsuitable life partner. I don't lack confidence...my life has been such that what I have today is due entirely to what I have done with it and I have learned that so many things are possible if we simply put in the effort to make them happen.

I had done for years the comfortable and asleep in my own life bit. So I feel as if I am a bit qualified and able to recognize it in others. I wonder if that is not where you are now?

I just wanted to say to you that we get out of life what we put into it. Anything we are unhappy about can be changed to the positive. A more healthy physical being can be had with physical effort to exercise and diet, a more healthy mental being can be had with mental, emotional, and spiritual activities.

We are in total control of our lives and the picture that people see of us is what we have brought forth - it is frankly what we want them to see.

Everyone's life has challenges. The key is how we choose to view those challenges, and how much work we are willing to put forth to improve them.

Since this topic began back in January of 2010, I have seen a dramatic uptick in the number of people expressing gender, and the number of people in relationships where gender is a part of the overall relationship. Colorado now has a group of female dominants who are holding events where gender expression is encouraged and while it is still a small segment of the scene, it is growing. The pretty much total acceptance of gender expression in males by the Colorado scene in general is wonderful - it may not be for everyone, but pretty much no one is going to knock you, nor deny you courtesy or friendship because of it.

I know that this is not the case everywhere, but if it is happening here, I suspect it is happening elsewhere too.

I will say again that people's best path to finding someone is to get out into your local scene and make friends. Go to munches and get to know people just as people first. Friends care for one another and they are more accepting of our challenges and kinks. We actually help our single friends hunt for suitable partners.

If you want to live a kinky life, you have to create it in the flesh...sites like this are great, but they are a poor substitute to actually looking people in the eye and living it.

All right...getting down off my soapbox here. Cheers all. :)




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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/3/2012 9:15:03 PM   
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There's someone who runs a monthly FemDom dinner. I consider her a good friend, even though presently I only see her about once every two or three years. I've gotten to a few of these.

They accomplish nothing for me, because it's just not the kind of context in which I can get to know people.

It's not just BDSM. I've gone to science fiction conventions for decades, and almost never gone away knowing anyone I didn't know already. I don't make friends where I work. (Anywhere I've worked, not just my current job.) Really, there is almost no context where I can meet people.

For a while she was also running a monthly discussion group. I went to a couple of those, and was much more comfortable. I can participate in a group discussion. Trying to talk to someone I've never met one-on-one, on the other hand, is almost impossible, other than the most superficial small talk.

But about the time that I became more determined to get into things, that group died.

Apart from that, it seemed that every woman at any of these events was already partnered.

The "lack of confidence" issue is gigantic for me. It goes beyond merely lacking confidence. A large part of me doesn't really WANT confidence. I tend to find overly confident people to be rather annoying. (Sometimes highly entertaining, but rarely someone I want to hang around with on a regular basis.) I resent NEEDING confidence; I hate that people so often judge other people not on what they really are or can do, but how well they can sell themselves. I have no aptitude for sales whatsoever. (If I did, I'd probably have a better job.)

Even among other crossdressers and transgendered folk, at least online, I seem to be the oddball. I've said before that it seems like I find two kinds: those you might call the "seriously transgendered", the ones whose goal is to live permanently in their desired gender role. They are usually concerned with the mechanics of that: surgery, hormones, legal issues, and so on. I respect them tremendously, but I am not one of them.

Then there are the ones for whom -- no matter how big a part of their lives it is -- seem to be into it almost recreationally. For them, crossdressing seems to be one big old happy fun party. There are things I can learn from them, and it can sometimes be fun to be around people who are having fun. But they don't seem to identify with my issues: with the tremendous frustration, regret, and depression that it all spawns. If they do, they don't acknowledge it; maybe they've managed to put it behind them.

On my bad days, it comes to this: it seems like the only thing I really want out of life is to be a pretty girl. And while intellectually I know I never will be, in the sense I think of it....I don't want to let go of it, either. Because it feels like if I do, there will be no reason to go on at all.

Anyway. While gender expression is a marvelous thing, and the BDSM community is certainly more tolerant/accepting of it than most, I would say feminization is not really the same issue.

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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/3/2012 10:17:58 PM   
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quote:

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And sometimes that is so very, very frustrating. The deck seems to be stacked against me in hunting for relationships to begin with: I lack confidence, I'm middle aged, I am not a financial success, and I'm emotionally on the needy side. Throw in bondage and crossdressing and sometimes I often just want to scream, cry, and hurt something.




Honest answer is that you would be far too high maintenance for me, mainly because of the lack of confidence and being emotionally needy, I'd feel more like a nurse or a therapist than a partner, but on the bright side, those are issues YOU can change, and if you want a relationship bad enough, you will, you're the only one who can address those issues. It's also not fair bringing them to a relationship, how would you feel if somebody would use a relationship with you as an emotional crutch? I think once you work that out, things will be easier for you, if you don't, you're setting yourself up for failure

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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/4/2012 5:52:50 AM   
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Some really interesting comments on this thread. To throw in a quick comment about a topic raised earlier, I agree that for CDs you need to kind of think about how you portray yourself and what kind of "vibe" that puts out to people you might want as potential partners/Dommes/etc.

If you go way over the top with makeup and slutty clothes, you are probably going to have a hard time getting people to take you seriously as more than someone looking solely for kinky play. That's not "wrong" of course, but it all depends on what you want and a lot of women aren't going to be looking for simple play partners whose role is just to get you off and/or "force" you into doing something. Also, consider how big of a part of your life this is, how often you want to do it, and how realistic your goals are. Definitely not saying anyone should "settle" for less than what they truly want, but like anything bdsm related (or life related in general really) there are a lot of people who talk about what they want but without ever working for it, or stopping to ask if that's what they really desire or if it's just a fun fantasy for them.

Finally, I can understand a guy's combining dressing with "humiliation" without it intentionally being degrading to women in that I guess I'd see that more as a commentary on how society reacts to guys being dressed in non traditional clothing or made to look silly by the usual standards, so it wouldn't really be all that different from other types of humiliation play I've seen people do. But it could also go the other way and to me it would really depend on the person and their motivation for me.

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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/4/2012 5:55:20 AM   
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You talk in terms of needing authentic expression of gender in one sentence - the pain and hurt you are feeling over not being female...

Then you say that just crossdressing is not enough and that most crossdressers don't feel this lack you feel.

But you say you are not trans.

You know, I am not a doctor, but I know the signs of gender dysphoria well enough having lived with it, been diagnosed with it, and worked on it a lot in my own life.

Honey, ain't none of us ever going to be Britney Spears. But we can have -peace- in our souls if we are just willing to stretch ourselves a little bit outside our comfort zone.

Step one is finding a counselor who understands gender issues and that is what I will recommend to you.

You can have feelings of kink and authentic expression of self intertwined. But unless you learn how to distinguish them, how to separate them, and finally how to integrate them in a way that works for your life and is healthy for you, they are going to create friction and blur your vision and your life.



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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/4/2012 8:21:57 PM   
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To be a little more analytical (or at least less depressed) about the subject...

I would say there are three main areas to talk about, for me at least, as far as crossdressing/feminization goes.

There's the "normal" side of it. This is the part of me that just wants to dress, behave, be accepted as a woman, and to the extend possible, experience the viewpoint of one....to really "feel" like a woman as much as I can. This is the side of me that wants to crossdress while I do normal, mundane things: go out shopping or for food, socializing, working, and so forth. True, I do tend to emphasize the more feminine activities where possible (cooking or sewing, having tea with a friend) but if there's an actual "sexual" aspect to it, it's pretty subtle. I do sometimes fantasize about being "romanced" while en femme, but that's more about the courtship and chivalrous parts than the consummation (let alone any actual relationship).

As a subnote, I find this urge often comes to me when I'm involved in activities that are more traditionally male: part of me wants to be en femme at, say, a sporting event or a poker game. The notion of being one of just a few (or even the only) woman in such a situation is appealing -- but I suspect that this may be, as much as anything, just wanting the attention.

Then there's the more "traditional" forced-femme kind of scenario, of being "made" to dress by someone else, and then trained to behave in a very stereotypically girlish (and usually submissive) fashion. Where this appeals to me is in the area I think of as "ultra-feminization" -- not just dressing as a woman, but in outfits with lots of ruffles and frills, petticoats, bows, anything that screams of feminimity; not just behaving as a woman, but an extremely 'girly' one, with an exaggerated mincing walk, a fixation on anything girly and feigned ignorance/indifference to anything masculine, curtseying a lot, etc. There is a humiliation aspect to this, to be sure, but I maintain that most actual women would be somewhat humiliated if 'forced' to act this way (not to the same degree, perhaps).

My own particular interest in this area lies in an offshoot involving age-regression...the idea of being dressed and treated as a little girl. This scoots uncomfortably close to the subject of ageplay, so I should say that I don't envision any sexual activity while I'm in that role (and no real BDSM, although child-appropriate punishments might be in order). Part of this would be hopefully wearing old-fashioned little-girl type party dresses, pinafores and so on; part of it would be the firm guidance of my guardian to act like a 'proper' young lady. Finding a woman who would be willing to act as my Mommy/Auntie/Governess/Babysitter in that kind of scenario would be neat. (I hasten to add, however, that we're talking child here, not infant...AB/diaper games don't interest me.)

Finally, we move on to what we might call the "slut" role: the desire to be dressed up in sexy clothes and then sexually used, objectified, degraded and so on. I can understand ambivalence (or hostility) to this kind of thing. On the one hand, I would point out that these are fantasies that many actual submissive/kinky women themselves have. (Some of them get into the area of "great to fantasize about, not to actually do" category, at least when taken to extremes.) On the other hand, there's no real reason in theory that I couldn't experience the same kind of objectification/degradation as a man....but that holds much less appeal for me. This is where the sexism comes in. Part of it is simply that it seems, well, sexier. Part of it is that it just seems more prevalent, though this may just be the constraints of the porn market. Part of it....it's hard to express exactly, but...well, watch a film where a villain threatens someone with violence if they don't comply. If the victim is a woman, we accept and feel sympathy for her if she complies, or begs for mercy (although we also like women who stick up for themselves). But if it's a man, if he backs down, let alone begs, we tend to see him as cowardly; men are supposed to remain defiant even in the face of death. (You have to threaten to hurt someone else, their lover or kids, before it's OK for them to capitulate...and even then they usually comply minimally while making smartassed remarks about it.)

So, is it a feeling that the mere act of submitting makes a man inherently unattractive or contemptable that causes some of us to want to be girls for a while? I don't know, but I have a feeling there's a connection.

Or, maybe it's just the impression that I'd be more "succesful" as a female submissive. I know that I look at those male subs who seem to be 'succesful' and in some demand, and I don't seem to understand them or be like them. There's the fact that there's more of a male sub surplus (although I gather that female subs don't have the easiest time finding good dominants, either). Or, and this could be more of a "porn" thing than a real-world thing, there's just more of a 'market' for female subs/bottoms of the objectified/degraded kind -- more demand for ponygirls than ponyboys, for instance.

I do know that if I did suddenly get my wish and was magically transformed into a woman who was young, attractive, and reasonably limber, I would likely immediately be sending off an application to model for the House of Gord. (In fact, I strongly suspect that Satan can't possibly exist or he'd have been here to offer to trade my sould for that by now.) It's hard to imagine anyone doing that kind of thing with male subs on any significant scale.

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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/5/2012 11:05:48 AM   
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In order to try to steer away from the woe is me subject this thread seems destined for, I'll try to give some tips on dresses. Being someone that isn't fond of my figure, I'm generally of the opinion more is more when it comes to dresses. The more of you that's covered the more someone will generate a feminine picture of you underneath. Sleeves hide broad shoulders well; loose sleeves even better. I despise doing goofy junk to create fake cleavage so I avoid dresses that show off that too. Really, I don't even like using a padded bra ( If you do I suggest using a modest pre-padded bra for an A cup woman rather then stuff a D cup with socks) although I'll do it sometimes (dresses just won't fit right without something to fill in that area sometimes); I think it's fine to just be flat chested if that's who you are.

In regards to underwear, buy stuff that has some support. I bought a big pack of lace underwear only to realize that they have no support and were basically useless for me except to maybe wear over a better if less decorative pair. There's various "gaffs" sold online that either have something to trap you flat or just have extra support in the front to promote you being flat. Just making sure underwear has good elastic around the waist and legs can be good enough sometimes though. The other option is to tape everything flat, but that's another one of those things I despise.

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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/6/2012 11:54:12 AM   
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Largely agree with those tips, Soyokaze. The tricky part for me is finding long enough sleeves -- even women who approach my size tend to have shorter arms, so long sleeves often aren't long enough, 3/4 sleeves (which I don't care for anyway) become half sleeves, etc. Many years ago Lane Bryant had a special 'tall collection' catalog; I still have a couple of dresses which weren't particularly fashionable even at the time, but which actually have sleeves long enough for me. But they stopped running those.

I'm sure there are probably places on the internet for extra-tall ladies that can help, but I haven't been in a position to do a lot of shopping for some time. But don't underestimate the importance of a good fit. When you see ridiculous-looking crossdressers (the way they usually look in a sitcom when they contrive to have some guy dress up, for instance) two things that stand out are poor-fitting clothes and really awful wigs. A wig that looks natural (assuming you can't use your own hair) may be the best thing you can do for yourself.

As for the bust, if you want some volume, I recommend silicone forms. They used to be prohibitively expensive back when I started dressing, but these days you can find them online fairly cheap. I'm a large person, so a nice-sized bustline (not so large as to be absurd) looks natural and good on my figure. Finding a bra with long enough straps to have them at a natural-looking level for my age is another story...


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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/6/2012 3:57:10 PM   
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I actually have a problem with men's clothes sleeves being too long for me >.< One of the few things I lucked out on. That problem and pants. Seriously go into a mall and try to find a men's size 28 belt or pants. Granted that took 2 years (some breaks during that) of eating 800 calories a day... not really luck.

I'm pretty satisfied with my A cup wonderbra (at least I was till a strap broke >.<). Gets me to I think a C and feels decent and don't have to worry about glue or something falling loose. I'm sure the silicone is a step up in regards to feel. A distant goal for me is to one day have implants, but until then I generally don't like to put too much effort into faking a chest.

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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/6/2012 6:08:10 PM   
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Try simple balloons and fill them with water, not too much, just a bit, even gives them a realistic wobble when you move. Women's breasts unless artificial don't tend to be rock hard

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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/6/2012 6:13:01 PM   
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An acquaintance of mine liked to fill balloons with Jello for use when he did drag. They worked quite well once the Jello set up.

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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/6/2012 7:36:38 PM   
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I can see that working much better, but getting the amount right and then waiting for it to settle, what a drag (no pun intended)

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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/6/2012 9:13:25 PM   
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I think his wife was the one who came up with the idea. When I met him he'd been using that trick long enough he could eyeball the amount. He'd make up several pairs at a time and store them in the freezer. On drag night, he'd take them out a few hours ahead of time to let them thaw, pop them in a bra, and voila - instant cleavage.

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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/6/2012 11:13:56 PM   
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And a really cool chest (regarding the frozen stuff), but yeah, with practice it can see it working really well!

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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 5/17/2012 1:21:06 PM   
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I thought I would take a moment to address some of the thoughts expressed with respect to the concepts of "female" and "humiliation" inasmuch as it applies to the case of a submissive male. I think, that as with most things, even this one subject is still represented by a broad spectrum of views and intents, at least on the part of the male. I thought I might give two different situations, each of which will hopefully seem valid. Sometimes, a person desires to be more like whoever they admire. It would certainly be very possible a man may enjoy feminization as a mental means of moving him closer to what he considers perfect (female). Does that seem reasonable? I wouldn't say that it even approaches a majority of the cases, but I am sure there are more than a few that few it this way. I say that there is a segment of the male population for whom humiliation could be defined as anything that that reduces his masculine self. Now, is it possible to connect the concepts of "humiliation" and "female" in a manner that is NOT derogatory toward women? I do think so. Just as there are a world full of things that come with being a woman, there are also a world full of things that come with being a man. Is it possible to believe for instance, that in general, men are somewhat more prone to aggression than women? If we were to just look at crime statistics, men most definitely commit more violent crimes. This is just an example of part of that world of being male in general. Whether right or wrong, learned or innate, certain behavior is wrapped up with masculinity. Seriously, the very masculine part of me is humiliated (or at least bruised) if I lose a fight or argument, or even if I were to trip in front of a group of people. Any of these things (and many, many more) just say that I am something less than that perfect masculine specimen I have strived to be for most of my life, and yes, that is humiliating. For some, having that masculinity challenged that way most certainly is a humiliating thing. Again, losing a fight challenges it. Being outsmarted challenges it. For some men, certainly it chips away at that masculinity to look act or behave toward the feminine. So certainly, while female is NOT a humiliating thing, for a man, and framed in such a way that it reduces his masculinity, it could very well have quite a humiliation factor.

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RE: Feminization: Help, Advice & Support - 1/18/2013 10:48:41 PM   
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I like this thread. As A TGirl who finds feminization interesting, it's refreshing and stimulating to my brain to see other people's thoughts on the topic. Achieving a passable female image does take an amount of time, I can agree to that. I've been living full time as a girl for the past two years, but I feel I have only started passing on a regular basis as of last summer. Passing takes work. You need the right makeup, the right clothes for your body type, the right hair, and, if you're lucky like me, you need a reallllly good razor.


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