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Vaginal orgasm? - 4/22/2006 8:53:07 AM

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A little bit afraid of sounding like a ridiculous "Dear Dr. Ruth" here... but I give it a go anyway:

Dear fellow female subs... do you have any tips on how to get a vaginal orgasm (as opposed to a clitoral one)?

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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/22/2006 9:56:10 AM

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Not a sub, but technically, I believe all female orgasms are basically clitoral, although the locus may change according to which surrounding nerves and ganglia are involved and to what extent - the best way to change the locus, by this theory, is to increase stimulation to the areas you want to become involved - i.e., penetration with no direct clitoral stimulation will still stimulate the clitoris by pushing and pulling on the surrounding membranes, but over time should also stimulate nerve response in the vaginal wall - with training, eventually, these nerves should begin to respond more strongly during orgasm, and diferences in orgasmic response may be the result of early self stimulation patterns.

This aso may have something to do with the g-spot, which is an internal ganglia, and/or the prostrate in males - although there are also reports of "assgasm" in women and the rectum also contains considerable ganglia.

If you masturbate with your fingers, try avoiding the clitoris and stimulating yourself internally - and/or try a dildo, g-spot stimulator, or similar device.

The primary locus is still the clitoris/penis, otherwise one ought to be able to have a "facegasm".

Obviously, there may be women in here with more insight and experience in this.

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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/22/2006 11:29:46 AM

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I don't really know how to tell you to have them, but I get them during fisting/fingering activities, and fun with dildos, as well as during "doggy style" sex. I don't really like to focus on my clitoris (it's too intense).

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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/22/2006 11:36:53 AM

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Grin...ummm..usually most, as someone said, is based on the clitoris..however there was a posting quite some time back that discussed G-spot orgasm and control thereof..I think it was referred to as the DelRay spot but I cannot be certain..:0)..anyway try the thread search it may have some answers you seek..be well..Tempting

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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/22/2006 11:55:54 AM

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Actually the female orgasm, while derived from the clitoris, is an occurance that is possible through the manipulation of the the urethra sponge, which is located (if one has the vagina facing you....ooo what a lovely thought!) at the top of the inner walls of the vagina. It is a spongy like tissue which is in between the urethra and the outside opening. If on 'crooks' thier fingers in a curved fashion, and inserts them inside the vaginal opening, and manipulates this ridge-like spongy tissue long enough, a sensation that some women describe as the feel of oncoming urination arises, which is in fact a build up of liquid in this tissue that if properly manipulated along with clitoral contact can produce an ejaculation. Having performed this, and witnessed it, it is definately a more intense than a "normal" orgasm. There are many sites that better describe this, and the process to make it happen. If it helps any, this is somewhat of the process (with difference of anatomy of course) to the male prostate being massaged producing a "no hands" ejaculation/orgasm.
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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/22/2006 12:11:13 PM

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perhaps i have done one to many keagle exercises because i have vaginal orgasms at the drop of a hat, a bump in the road, or just from thinking about having one, literally! this has been going on for me for the last five years now. i do not have to be touched to have an orgasm.....i use to think something was terribly wrong with me but i will enjoy it while it lasts!! my habits of masterbation throughout the years and my lack of sex might have plenty to do with it but it is all pure speculation and theory on my part. if i could teach women to do what i do ..... believe me, i would and i would try to capitalize on it too! *grin* until recently, my g-spot had never been touched so i don't think it has everything to do with that but it is more exquisite than what i had become accustomed too!

edited in regard to what moon69 said..... i have only once been on the edge of squirting while playing by myself.... my fear ruined the entire thing because i stopped immediately... i haven't been able to get to that point since but to be honest.... it is a fantasy of mine to be able to do it at least once. he is right there is a lot of information out there to read on squirting, if that is your goal. but again that is a combination of both clit and vaginal stimulation.

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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/22/2006 12:27:58 PM

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Youre right.... some women are able to have an orgasm producing more fluid than others. But with female ejaculation we are talking of an orgasm that when produced actually squirts, sprays, or have even seen some likened to eruptions! As if one had literally turned on a garden hose!

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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/22/2006 12:38:56 PM

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Is that what that is? I always thought I was "having an accident" when I did that. LOL

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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/23/2006 6:23:07 AM

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Youre right.... some women are able to have an orgasm producing more fluid than others. But with female ejaculation we are talking of an orgasm that when produced actually squirts, sprays, or have even seen some likened to eruptions! As if one had literally turned on a garden hose!

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Is that what that is? I always thought I was "having an accident" when I did that. LOL

No, not an accident, though i know many women who have had this happen who feel the same way. Or worse yet if you are one of these females, coming in this manner with a partner who has never witnessed it or is unaware that female ejaculation even exists, then having them jump up freaking out thinking you peed on them. That reaction has spoiled what is surely the most intense orgasm a woman can experience for many of them.

Moon69, you're technical information is excellent; apparently you have had some experience with this happening.

Speaking as one of those” garden house explosion” types i can tell you, it does make you nervous with a new partner. So i have always warned people about this, still it is pretty much something you have to witness for yourself.

When i met my Master (ScooterTrash) for the 1st time he had been warned, but unbeknownst to me had never seen this though he had researched the phenomena. He made the mistake of pulling me on top of him, so naturally he was soaked from shoulders to knees, down his back, you get the picture. He showed no real reaction when this happened but afterwards i think his words were "Wow". Rather than being disgusted he was amazed, but worried about their very expensive bed and coverings. His reaction made all the difference in the world to me though.

Lol, after a quick conference with my Mistress (ShiftedJewel) we made a shopping run to find anything to protect the bed, carpets etc. We found some water proof small bed pads and a tarp for the floor that help but are still looking for something larger.

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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/23/2006 6:33:14 AM

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Yes, but I collared him--<smiles>

--vaginal orgasm is achieved via stimulation of the infamous "G"spot that many men claim to know ALL about--<smirk>---it can also be achieved via G spot and anal stimulation.

edited to add: as twicehappy said, keagle (sp?) exercises help to identify and heighten that ability.

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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/23/2006 6:48:17 AM

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I'm just the opposite ... I dont like to get 'dirty' during sex ... If there's too much moisture, I tend to freeze up and its not enjoyable. Yes, I know ... I have too many hang ups.

As far as 'vaginal' orgasms go ... I dont know how I taught myself to have them. I'm like OTK though, I can have one whenever I want. The first that happened I was 15 ... It wasnt a very strong one or anything because I'd never even had an orgasm before and I had NO idea what happened, how it happened and I was terrified of it happening again ... lol

I can orgasm just by sneezing ... *mutters*

Now that I'm on birth control pills though, it doesnt happen as much. Its actually very difficult for me to become aroused and stay that way. I pretty much gave up on masturbation. But at least I'm not orgasming in the middle of sneezes ... :)

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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/23/2006 8:05:48 AM

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The same way you get to any orgasm that's not automatic- time, practice, experimentation, and FUN.

There's a gazillion toys, tricks and positions out there- go try them all. They might work or they might not.

But above all please have fun. What's the point of an orgasm finally if you're crying in frustration and anger and disappointment all the rest of the time?

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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/23/2006 9:01:31 AM

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Youre right.... some women are able to have an orgasm producing more fluid than others. But with female ejaculation we are talking of an orgasm that when produced actually squirts, sprays, or have even seen some likened to eruptions! As if one had literally turned on a garden hose!

Speaking as one of those” garden hose explosion” types i can tell you, it does make you nervous with a new partner. So i have always warned people about this, still it is pretty much something you have to witness for yourself.

I can testify that this is a fact. You know for sure when they do that, you don't even have to wonder "did they get off"?

edited to say..."clean up in aisle 7"...lol.

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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/23/2006 10:41:12 AM

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The same way you get to any orgasm that's not automatic- time, practice, experimentation, and FUN.

There's a gazillion toys, tricks and positions out there- go try them all. They might work or they might not.

But above all please have fun. What's the point of an orgasm finally if you're crying in frustration and anger and disappointment all the rest of the time?

Definitely - make the best of whatever you can do, the Freudian thing about "immature" vs. "mature" orgasms is Victorian bullshit, although that's probobly not what you're worried about - don't worry about it at all, relaxing and enjoying yourself is the way to increase your overall pleasure.

Personally, I find my second orgasm to be generally much more intense than the first - after that, the law of diminishing returns sets in without a break.

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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/23/2006 10:46:33 AM

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Heh, the goal of Tantric yoga is to orgasm without physical contact - sounds like we've got a couple of natural Tantrics.

Along those lines however, sex does have rather a large psychological component - just thinking dirty thoughts might help,

while kegels will inrease bloodflow to the genetalia.

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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/23/2006 11:14:30 AM

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Hi,
Sue Johansen from the radio and tv show Talk Sex says there is no difference in vaginal and/or clitoral orgasms..she says they are the same...but i beg to differ..this girl has had both.It seems i have more vaginal orgasms when less stimulation is on the clitoris...and doggie style is best.. My advice is to concentrate less on the clit... (extremely sensivite area) and let yourself really relax and enjoy the rhythm of your partner. If you're too tensed up about having one then it may never happen..

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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/23/2006 11:15:35 AM

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Is that what that is? I always thought I was "having an accident" when I did that. LOL

I thought that the first time, too!! <groans> Okay, I thought it the second time as well...I was terribly slow at catching on.

With regard to the initial question, I think LuckyAlbatross gives the best advice with "time, practice, experimentation, and FUN." This type of research should not be any hardship at all. <smiles>

The G-spot took some exploration and was almost uncomfortable with its intensity, then my whole "oh, um..sorry about that" threw me off. A vaginal orgasm...my tip would be to experiment with a dildo using different speed and depth of strokes until you find what does it for you. An orgasm from anal penetration is pretty mind-blowing and my tip there would lots of lube and using the trial and error speed and depth technique again. <grins> Now if I could only let go and develop the ability to orgasm just from nipple play, I could be the coolest person on my block. (Its a small town, expectations are low.)

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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/23/2006 11:20:54 AM

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Yeah I kind of freaked out the first time that happened to me, too. Master loves it, thank goodness.

The greatest sex organ is the mind. I could be physically stimulated in the most erotic way possible, but if my mind isn't "there," it ain't gonna happen. Vaginal orgasms do exist, and with the right stimulation. Moon69 explained it very well. Such orgasms have also been known to occur without a physical stimulant (hence, cumming on command), although they can of course be much more difficult to achieve.

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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/23/2006 10:11:20 PM

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Hi,
Sue Johansen from the radio and tv show Talk Sex says there is no difference in vaginal and/or clitoral orgasms..she says they are the same...but i beg to differ..

Sadly, that so-called expert is wrong about many things. I heard her tell a couple that if they wanted to explore S/m they should try something light and safe like bondage or hot-wax. Safe?? Light??

Tell that to anyone who got burned from wax, or joint/tendon injuries from bondage. Geesh!

She made no recommendations about reading up about these things first, or that there were websites, books, and real life groups you could go to and learn. ::sigh::

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RE: Vaginal orgasm? - 4/23/2006 10:30:15 PM

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edited to add: as twicehappy said, keagle (sp?) exercises help to identify and heighten that ability.

i was beginning to think that i was invisible on these boards and now i am thoroughly convinced. whaaaaaa, whaaaaa... somebody please call the whaaaambulance!!! *chuckles* oh well.... going back into the lurkers closet .... at least i lose the vanilla cone with this whiney plea for some credit.

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