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RE: TV's - No offense but please stop showing up as Fem... - 2/27/2011 1:59:05 PM

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Other people who've read more papers than I have are handling the biological and sociological arguments well, so I'll leave them.

I just want to address this one point:

The OP has referred several times to what 'XX-women' (and there is something really unpleasant about that term) have to 'endure'. As an 'XX-Domme', I have to say that the fact that some other Dommes have had gender reassignment surgery and list accordingly as the women that they are does not affect me in the least. Not a problem. Not in the slightest. I really can't see why it would.

You are talking like the school girl you are through the ideology they brand you with. Wait til you are 33 and you are sick of mens' bullshit and you have to wait, look and long for that one true guy who really means what he says, then tell me how much you like completely needless obstacles in your path to find the man you want to spend your life with - the one who is not a loser but is not already taken. What does affect a 21 year old attractive girl in the least? Politics. You can only put it before yourself and your gender for so long before it loses its meaning and value compared to what you want and what you have to go through to get it.

I am sure VC will address this herself, yes she is 21 but you missed the significant and very obvious notation of her being "Gay"... .
You have also made all sorts of generalisations and automatic conclusions that do not at all fit her.
However, if this is how you are approaching people, I am finding myself seriously wondering if some of these misunderstandings are not being generated by your own errors.

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RE: TV's - No offense but please stop showing up as Fem... - 2/27/2011 2:02:07 PM

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Going anywhere useful? I don't have to beg for sex OR Domes. I am looking for that one right girl. If as you assert, every last Domme out there is a utopian cleft-asshole socialist I won't have anything to worry about because I won't want them anyway. Luckily for me that has been far from the case.

The femdoms out there aren't all socialists by any means. But people involved in this lifestyle are likely to be quite a bit more liberal than the average with regard to sexual or gender matters, obviously.

Look, YTD - I'd recommend you just go with Gungadin's strategy above. You can be honest about your feelings, you can pick and choose who you want, but you can do it without treading on corns. At the same time, you'll no doubt pick up some tricks as to how to spot the sorts of women who mesh with you.

TG is TG that's why they have a category for it. Not political - simple. They can identify as non-TG but that that is their own personal matter, not a matter for the romantic public to deal with. Its not my job to live by your delusions, its your job to live by your own delusions, but with a Trans category right there, which is the whole point of this thread, you would be deceitful to calssify yourself as a woman without a past as a male - without male bones, male features, male sweat and male chromosomes - four things submissive males should not have to sort through when they are looking for a woman. The correct category is offered - they should pick it.

Sure there are a lot more liberal people in the lifestyle - are you saying liberal and dishonesty go hand in hand? I would assume that's not what you mean.

Here is a chance to show some good old liberal decency and pick Trans if you have a physical past as a male.

You can call TG a woman but you can't call deceit honesty.

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RE: TV's - No offense but please stop showing up as Fem... - 2/27/2011 2:02:44 PM

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You also claim that males have a desperate need to be selected while females coolly pick their choice from the ravening hordes baying at their feet.

Not interested in the OP, because he is an offensive whiner, but wanted to say that my super in my apartment building has put a ban on ravening hordes.

They track WAY too much dirt on the new carpeting.

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RE: TV's - No offense but please stop showing up as Fem... - 2/27/2011 2:12:28 PM

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Other people who've read more papers than I have are handling the biological and sociological arguments well, so I'll leave them.

I just want to address this one point:

The OP has referred several times to what 'XX-women' (and there is something really unpleasant about that term) have to 'endure'. As an 'XX-Domme', I have to say that the fact that some other Dommes have had gender reassignment surgery and list accordingly as the women that they are does not affect me in the least. Not a problem. Not in the slightest. I really can't see why it would.

You are talking like the school girl you are through the ideology they brand you with. Wait til you are 33 and you are sick of mens' bullshit and you have to wait, look and long for that one true guy who really means what he says, then tell me how much you like completely needless obstacles in your path to find the man you want to spend your life with - the one who is not a loser but is not already taken. What does affect a 21 year old attractive girl in the least? Politics. You can only put it before yourself and your gender for so long before it loses its meaning and value compared to what you want and what you have to go through to get it.

I am sure VC will address this herself, yes she is 21 but you missed the significant and very obvious notation of her being "Gay"... .
You have also made all sorts of generalisations and automatic conclusions that do not at all fit her.
However, if this is how you are approaching people, I am finding myself seriously wondering if some of these misunderstandings are not being generated by your own errors.

I did read her profile. You don't think she's probably in college? Her profile is a little misleading itself though I assume thats just her sense of humor. Nonetheless: schoolgirl.

Who are you people to dictate what hetero people should want? You: want whoever you want. Me: want whoever I want. Womanhood is not a hat that we can all just put on when we want to.

You're trying to politically justify the usurpation of the female gender by males or former males and insert the two for hetero males to pick from as "same". There is a difference. And there is a category for that difference.

Period (no pun intended).

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RE: TV's - No offense but please stop showing up as Fem... - 2/27/2011 2:21:04 PM

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I don't want to post a picture of someone else but it would be nice to post a picture of something other than my face. I have tried just using my eyes and still had the moderator delete it. Now that you know what I mean, yes it is a double standard.

You are in the minority because most of the women in the BDSM community are submissives or switches. Submissive males are outnumbered by those men who fancy themselves as dominant as well. So the traditional fem-sub and male-dom can throw all the stones they want but they don't have to worry about limited options. Dommes and male subs are like Pandas - they go extinct because there are few of them whoever find suitable mates.

A "Dominant Female XY" and "Dominant Female XX" category would be fair because dominant women wouldn't have to be drown out and submissive men could search for who they want to meet.

Dude, I am actually shaking my head at your ridiculous comments. Are you so frustrated by your search that you cannot see anything resembling reality? I always laugh when someone inflates their own problems and then has no empathy for others.

Your comments about Dommes being so rare and male subs having it so much worse than Male Doms or female subs is completely false. How the hell do you know what others cope with in trying to find suitable mates? Because I am seeking a Dom, do I automatically say, oh my god, sub men have it so easy, Dommes have it so easy, etc.? No I don't because I am intelligent and empathetic enough to know that everyone has a tough time, not just me.

The difference is, those people don't start threads asking a FREE website to create categories because you feel that other people do not have a right to be here.

And what do you mean, you cannot post any other photo than your face??? Have you seen some of the photos here? Unless your photo shows something that opposes the TOS what is preventing you from doing so?

I mean, god, get over it. The search for the right partner can take years; it will only be compounded by your bad attitude, which you have amply shown in this thread.

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RE: TV's - No offense but please stop showing up as Fem... - 2/27/2011 2:22:49 PM

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‎'Political Correctness' is going to be one of those things people look back on and say "that's a cult..."

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RE: TV's - No offense but please stop showing up as Fem... - 2/27/2011 2:24:44 PM

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And now, I would like to say that this thread no longer DESERVES to be taken seriously.

So speaks the naive mouthpiece of his local teacher's union. Just because you yourself are only useful as an example doesn't mean people don't have legitimate concerns. "Make believe" and honesty are two different things. By all means let the choir that specializes in preaching to itself go sing its Christmas carols somewhere else.

Naive am I? Then why are you so slow to notice that the points from both sides have been stated, restated, and restated yet again? The topic has been milked as much as it will be and neither side is going to make progress with the other. A stalemate has occurred. The only thing that is changing at this point is the number of people being pulled into the tread.

Personally, I believe that you have no room to talk about the nativity of others. You can't even realize that the longer this has gone on, the deeper the hole you are digging for yourself has become.

If you are so intent on finding that "special someone" who will abuse you and your relationship with them, I would suggest checking out the nearest bar, I'm sure you could EASILY find a drunk thug that never finished high-school that would oblige you.

You have no right to talk about moral grounds either, ESPECIALLY after some of the things you have said.
You talk about your moral grounds as if they are a fact that everyone should know, and not like the opinions you claim to believe they are.

You think its hard to find a female dom? Sure, maybe it is, and if I were to look, I would have no trouble at all finding one near me (New Orleans, ftw).
But have you ever tried to find a female sub around my age? It seems that all of them are taken, or looking solely for older men. While I have no problem with older women, I feel more comfortable with someone around my own age, it helps make that connection that is present in ANY good relationship.

You don't even bother to think that perhaps... PERHAPS the trans-gender dommes have a reason for putting themselves up as female? Oh! It's immoral you say? Try talking to one, give one a chance, they may be more up front about it if you tried.

As to me being young and hot headed, forget it. I don't get angry easily, and nor do I tend to get passionate. I rant for the sake of ranting. It has had a nice history of helping me get my point across to incompetent gits like yourself.

Now, I can't remember how many times I have said this, and I wont count because a few were probably deleted:
Get over yourself.

If you have any right to complain about the "misrepresentations" of some of the desensitizes of this site, then you must be the perfect human, and have lived a perfect life, and I don't think ANYone here is going to believe that for a nanosecond.

Now please, do us all a favor and DO find that girl you want so much, one that will sleep with any and every man she meets, but not with you. You would be doing us ALL a favor by your removing yourself from the gene-pool so effectively.

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RE: TV's - No offense but please stop showing up as Fem... - 2/27/2011 2:30:30 PM

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I did read her profile. You don't think she's probably in college? Her profile is a little misleading itself though I assume thats just her sense of humor. Nonetheless: schoolgirl.

Oh jesus, I'd forgotten about that profile text. As it happens, it's a forum reference - the threads the joke came from contained contributions from people of all ages. If I was actually looking for partners it would be (and has previously been - other forum members will back me up on this) much more serious.

Aside from the ad hominem attacks, you still haven't actually addressed my point - how a tiny minority of other women identify does not affect my dating experience. You've failed to specify any way in which it *does*, aside from vague references to 'obstacles'.

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RE: TV's - No offense but please stop showing up as Fem... - 2/27/2011 2:35:18 PM

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Wow...this is so fucking ignorant...it hurts...

I'm sorry that it hurts, but the study I linked showed a difference between male brains, female brains, and transgendered brains. The transgendered brains were not female brains in a male body, but brains with a unique makeup that were similar to male in some areas and similar to female in another.

How interesting that you base your opinion on a "study" compared to those that actually live that life. I would call that ignorance.

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RE: TV's - No offense but please stop showing up as Fem... - 2/27/2011 2:38:02 PM

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The difference is, those people don't start threads asking a FREE website to create categories because you feel that other people do not have a right to be here.

The website is free but it does have standards. One of the good things about CollarMe is that they try to instill a sense of realism and integrity, unlike paid sites where you can you are what ever you want to be since all they want is your money. For all the people who have ever had to deal with site administrators for CM's formerly strict photo TOS, it is only just deserts to expect the same out of categories.

Whats wrong with being Trans and selecting Trans. I don't think there's something 'wrong' with Trans but by putting themselves in the female category the Trans community are stigmatizing their own group.

But its just sheer misrepresentation. CM might be the only big free site for now but they will lose market share very quickly if another one comes along and makes sure its members are appropriately designated to their particular gender group.

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RE: TV's - No offense but please stop showing up as Fem... - 2/27/2011 2:42:03 PM

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Aside from the ad hominem attacks, you still haven't actually addressed my point - how a tiny minority of other women identify does not affect my dating experience. You've failed to specify any way in which it *does*, aside from vague references to 'obstacles'.

As an attractive 21 year old college student there are very few things that will for the next few years affect your dating experience. Surely you will not imagine that a man would go through a sex change so he can 'get more chicks'? In fact the entire issue has next to zero impact on your life and its hard to imagine anyone it could impact less than yourself, so it's pretty easy for you to talk.

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