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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 10:44:55 AM   
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Also the fact that the lights in the cinema were twirling, it wasnt as if texting would have interrupted anything. But...people are hating to admit that an ol man can be an instigator...get pissy and self bloody righteous.



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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 10:47:30 AM   
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The conversation according to Mrs Reeves came after the shooting, and that big, younger and stronger hand wasn't around his throat was it?

No but then nobody said it was.
But the video shows that Oulsen struck at Reeves.
Yes, with the bag of popcorn that he took from Reeves...not with his hand or fist.
He may have been grabbing Reeves popcorn.
There is no "may" about it. It clearly shows that Oulsen grabbed the bag of popcorn and threw it back at Reeves.
Reeves says Oulsen struck and bent his glasses.
Here is what the article says, "Reeves told the detective that Oulsen hit him in the face and that his glasses became crooked." To me that is saying that Oulsen hit him in the face (with the popcorn) and that his glasses became crooked (askew, due to being hit with a bag of popcorn), which is NOT the same as bent. People that wear glasses often get them bumped, causing them to sit askew...or "crooked". To claim they were "bent" from that simple statement is stretching it quite a bit.
What will you say if it turns out that Reeves' glasses actually were damaged?


It's pretty obvious from the video that Reeves became aggressive after he was hit with the popcorn. He didn't cower back into his seat as if afraid for his life. He aggressively leaned forward, half out of his seat, toward Oulsen, and shot him.

That his how a cop would react to an attack.

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 10:49:44 AM   
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Other than as obfuscation, what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

The man is dead, and none of your internet games are going to change that. The man who shot him is going to get a trial, and your blather isn't going to affect that either.

The only people who are going to have even an approximation as to guilt or innocence are going to be in the courtroom, not on this forum

But hey, carry on with your bad Nancy Grace self.


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Also the fact that the lights in the cinema were twirling, it wasnt as if texting would have interrupted anything. But...people are hating to admit that an ol man can be an instigator...get pissy and self bloody righteous.





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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 10:52:13 AM   
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My position would still be that it was not a case of using deadly force. I'm sure that if he was hit with such force that it bent his glasses that there would have been some type of mark or marks on his face and photos were taken and that will come out in the trial.

They were both being assholes and lets not forget, Reeves shot two people that day but I guess some will justify that as Mrs Oulsen just being collateral damage.

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 10:52:54 AM   
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Other than as obfuscation, what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

The man is dead, and none of your internet games are going to change that. The man who shot him is going to get a trial, and your blather isn't going to affect that either.

The only people who are going to have even an approximation as to guilt or innocence are going to be in the courtroom, not on this forum

But hey, carry on with your bad Nancy Grace self.




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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 10:53:35 AM   
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LMFAO chill out dood....
just another observation, fuck, you are playing too, and nothing you say is gonna matter either,
Ive not seen such a hypocritical post in ...at least twelve hours....
have at it chummy... you seem to have a hard on for this topics participants today...
dont give yourself an aneurysm

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 11:01:30 AM   
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Reeves shot two people that day but I guess some will justify that as Mrs Oulsen just being collateral damage.



That hand being in the way might wind up being the evidence that Reeves had reason to be in fear of his safety, and the wife of the dead asshole knew it.

We'll see when the facts come out at the trial.

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 11:02:55 AM   
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My position would still be that it was not a case of using deadly force. I'm sure that if he was hit with such force that it bent his glasses that there would have been some type of mark or marks on his face and photos were taken and that will come out in the trial.

They were both being assholes and lets not forget, Reeves shot two people that day but I guess some will justify that as Mrs Oulsen just being collateral damage.

She now claims that she didn't know anything was wrong till Reeves shot.
How did she get her hand in the way?
We will see more as the trial comes along.
Keep in mind that, as I suspect you know but may have forgotten, it is mortal or serious bodily injury.
This makes a major difference in his defense.
He fired one shot clearly he had no intent to shoot two people.

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 11:05:09 AM   
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Reeves shot two people that day but I guess some will justify that as Mrs Oulsen just being collateral damage.



That hand being in the way might wind up being the evidence that Reeves had reason to be in fear of his safety, and the wife of the dead asshole knew it.

We'll see when the facts come out at the trial.

Possible and as you say we will see at the trial.
If you accept her current version of the story her hand wasn't in the way and couldn't have been shot.

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 11:08:58 AM   
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If you accept her current version of the story her hand wasn't in the way and couldn't have been shot.



We'll see what happens to her version of the story when she's under oath, and the defense asks about it.



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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 11:09:17 AM   
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My position would still be that it was not a case of using deadly force. I'm sure that if he was hit with such force that it bent his glasses that there would have been some type of mark or marks on his face and photos were taken and that will come out in the trial.

They were both being assholes and lets not forget, Reeves shot two people that day but I guess some will justify that as Mrs Oulsen just being collateral damage.

She now claims that she didn't know anything was wrong till Reeves shot.
How did she get her hand in the way?
We will see more as the trial comes along.
Keep in mind that, as I suspect you know but may have forgotten, it is mortal or serious bodily injury.
This makes a major difference in his defense.
He fired one shot clearly he had no intent to shoot two people.

I thought his gun jammed? I know i read it somewhere in previous posts...have they changed the story??
yes, serious question

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 11:18:41 AM   
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He didn't intend to shoot two people but he clearly did. He drew his weapon and made a conscious decision to fire. Can't call that an oopsie, sorry lady.

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 11:21:30 AM   
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Yes, Lucy in earlier reports it was stated that his gun jammed and that came from the person who I believe was an off duty officer who took the gun away from Reeves.



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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 11:22:45 AM   
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Of course they've changed the story.
They'll keep changing it until they find one that seems to exonerate the trigger happy old fart from murdering one person and winging another, won't they?

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 11:25:11 AM   
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He didn't intend to shoot two people but he clearly did. He drew his weapon and made a conscious decision to fire. Can't call that an oopsie, sorry lady.



He hit one person in the chest, the other in the hand. The how and where of that hand are going to matter, and the question of why it was there is going to matter even more.

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 11:28:24 AM   
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Yes, Lucy in earlier reports it was stated that his gun jammed and that came from the person who I believe was an off duty officer who took the gun away from Reeves.



Edited for spelling

Thanks:) I was wondering if was me:)


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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 11:51:41 AM   
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You're welcome.

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 1:30:45 PM   
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Will you be getting back to us with proof that I ever said anything different, before or after you finally provide proof for all your earlier assertions?


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Other than as obfuscation, what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

The man is dead, and none of your internet games are going to change that. The man who shot him is going to get a trial, and your blather isn't going to affect that either.

The only people who are going to have even an approximation as to guilt or innocence are going to be in the courtroom, not on this forum

But hey, carry on with your bad Nancy Grace self.




Oh fuck, I forgot it was national irony day.



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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 3:52:39 PM   
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Will you be getting back to us with proof that I ever said anything different, before or after you finally provide proof for all your earlier assertions?


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ORIGINAL: EdBowie

Other than as obfuscation, what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

The man is dead, and none of your internet games are going to change that. The man who shot him is going to get a trial, and your blather isn't going to affect that either.

The only people who are going to have even an approximation as to guilt or innocence are going to be in the courtroom, not on this forum

But hey, carry on with your bad Nancy Grace self.




Oh fuck, I forgot it was national irony day.




Lmfao...... I never said you had said anything different, why the fuck do you think I bolded your post. I said quite pointedly that your remark was ironic, given your posts and all that.

As for earlier assertions made by me, keep bleating on about it and enjoy. You know full well I am unable to post my info without getting a ban. If the mods let me post my points on the issue freely, I will be happy to do so.

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RE: Death penalty for being an asshole - 2/9/2014 5:46:44 PM   
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Ironic, 'Given your posts and all that...' except there are no such posts.

So, nothing on the topic, nothing factual, and nothing to back up the assertions.




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Will you be getting back to us with proof that I ever said anything different, before or after you finally provide proof for all your earlier assertions?


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: EdBowie

Other than as obfuscation, what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

The man is dead, and none of your internet games are going to change that. The man who shot him is going to get a trial, and your blather isn't going to affect that either.

The only people who are going to have even an approximation as to guilt or innocence are going to be in the courtroom, not on this forum

But hey, carry on with your bad Nancy Grace self.




Oh fuck, I forgot it was national irony day.




Lmfao...... I never said you had said anything different, why the fuck do you think I bolded your post. I said quite pointedly that your remark was ironic,.

As for earlier assertions made by me, keep bleating on about it and enjoy. You know full well I am unable to post my info without getting a ban. If the mods let me post my points on the issue freely, I will be happy to do so.




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