Gauge
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ORIGINAL: GotSteel So just in case somebody hasn't heard my spiel by now I have, and it is tired. quote:
I'm often horrified by the way new posters are treated around here. Good. I am too sometimes. Other times I am able to see through the bullshit that some folks post just to shit-stir. quote:
Upon stating this in the past I've received the response that usually the new poster does something to instigate the responses and I think that's true. If it is true, why are we having this discussion? quote:
Sometimes it's the case that the poster has an uncommon kink that doesn't fit in around here, but should we really be throwing rocks over that, seems to me an awful lot like we're living in a glass house on this one. Mostly those folks are given the benefit of a doubt. A great deal of those threads go South because the poster gets defensive or after being told by numerous posters that what he wants is dangerous or otherwise impractical, they go on to try to make their fantasy fit. The one thread that I can think of was the guy with the toilet slave idea where he could retire into a coffin filled with feces. The community tried, it went to hell after a few pages because what the man wanted would have killed him in short order and he kept trying. quote:
Sometimes the poster stumbles onto a hotbutton topic, but really how can we reasonably expect someone new to know where all the mines are buried? Define "hotbutton" and give examples. quote:
Sometimes it's that the poster makes some spelling mistakes or doesn't express themselves well. Thing is expressing oneself on a forum is a skill and we're talking about posters who are new. It's a very rare person who's perfect at well just about anything their first time. That's not exclusive to this site, that is the Internet... it happens all the time. Doesn't make it right, it just happens. For me, I never make fun of those people... I try to understand them. quote:
Don't get me wrong, there are work arounds to these problems: learning to post elsewhere/a substantial amount of lurking. But isn't that setting an awfully high bar to be allowed to post here without getting heckled off the site? Since you dodged my question earlier on the other thread, I will ask it again: Please explain to me why some posters that the community does embrace, never return? Is there a fair amount of heckling that happens? Occasionally... mostly with the "Frauds and phonies" threads because it is fucking tiresome to hear it. Most of those people couldn't find their ass with both hands let alone figure out that not everyone on the Internet is real... they get what is coming to them... a gasp of shock, a stern warning, and a badgering for being ridiculous enough to not expect fake people. quote:
I mean we're basically asking new posters to hit the ground running in the middle of a mine field, is it at all surprising that has a tendency of not working out very well! But isn't that what happens with every forum on the Internet? New people don't know where the minefields are? This community cannot be held to a higher standard just because you say so. quote:
About this time in my argument someone's apt to make a comment about this is just how it is. No, I did that in the beginning. quote:
Thing is that's not actually true Some communities are different. Not every board is allowed to act like adults, we are. We can use adult language, we can get into heated disagreements and we even have a section that the mods allow us to run with scissors if we wish to... so, it is true for this community... and yet, your indictment of this community in particular is nauseatingly constant. quote:
I can point to examples both in meat space and on fet of communities who are night and day different Real life is different than the Internet. There are a lot of people that would say things online that they wouldn't say face to face. I am not one of those people, I will talk just like I do here to people in real life. I'm consistent. Oh, and well done to once again point to Fetlife and say they do it so much better than here. That shit is old. quote:
think about it for a second, can't all of you do the same? Act like everyone else? Act like you want us to? Seriously? You sound like you are pining for a day when this board was thriving... I remember this site when it first opened, a thriving community with so many people that the threads were swarming with responses. Whatever happened here to cull the community is over and done with. The community is rebuilding slowly... perhaps not to your standards, but it has seen new posters who have stayed and gotten active. It is going to take time, and bitching that the community is not welcoming enough is counterproductive to the community moving forward from that time. We welcome those that are seeking, and we respond in kind to idiocy. If you want the moderators on the boards to crack down, don't hold your breath. We have been told numerous times that this is an adult board and we are expected to act like adults. For the most part, we do. Obviously I disagree that it is as bad as you think it is. I am tired of your diatribe and wish you would simply realize that Rome is not burning. Will the community ever return to its heyday? Probably not like it was, but it sure has mounted a comeback. Bringing up the problems is fine, castigating the community like we are a bunch of insolent children is futile.
< Message edited by Gauge -- 12/2/2014 10:03:03 PM >
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