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PonyGroom -> RE: Master's must master the whole slave? (12/7/2016 4:07:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick Yeah that's some CastleRealm shit right there. CastleRealm always seemed Romantic-Novel extreme to me, unrealistic. Syrup dripping, total romance, she kneels at His feet, capitalizing all the right words whether in the (chat) room or not... so obedient... so... ugh. At the other end was the loveless relationship that was all about control: Employer/Employee. Sanity seems always to lie either somewhere in between, or a mix of the two.

PonyGroom -> RE: Master's must master the whole slave? (12/7/2016 4:10:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka I don't think that it's so much that the person is actually valueless, as it is that they don't really feel their best value... their best self... unless they are in service to their Master. I think he is probably seeking a submissive who truly feels deeply this way, and if she is not in service to someone everything else about her, while perhaps having value, is not allowing her to express her best self/value. There are submissives who truly are this way deep down at their core. Relating this to quality of life... how limited is the quality of life if one is unable to express the best version of themself? It's always going to be lacking something extremely important. Which is pretty much the definition of "Co-Dependent Relationship". And the OP literally said "NO quality of life". You always see Screw the Roses, Send Me the Thorns or SM 101 recommended for beginners. Why not Codependent No More?

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Master's must master the whole slave? (12/7/2016 4:51:20 PM)
quote: Why not Codependent No More? But I WANT to be controlled (at least to a degree), to my mind that is pretty much the whole fucking point, so why would I want to read a book about how to lern not to control others?

UllrsIshtar -> RE: Master's must master the whole slave? (12/7/2016 6:22:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: Which is pretty much the definition of "Co-Dependent Relationship". That can be said of almost any D/s type relationship, especially if S&M is an aspect of it. I disagree. I'm not talking about being an enabler in a relationship. I'm talking about those that essentially are addicted to relationships, can't function without one and use those relationships to hide from the issues in their lives. If you need a relationship for a purpose in life, there's something wrong. For me, needing a relationship for a purpose in life is pretty much THE definition of what a slave is. I'm with Dizzy and tamaka on this. It's perfectly normal, natural, and healthy for some people to look for a relationship to be the thing that gives them purpose in life, and for the relationship to enhance them in such a way that they are their best selves only when they're in a fulfilling relationship. Some people self-actualize at work, or as a mother, or as a volunteer, or as a scholar, other people self-actualize as a partner/wife/life-mate/slave. Nothing wrong with any of them.

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Master's must master the whole slave? (12/7/2016 9:21:55 PM)
quote: Some people self-actualize at work, or as a mother, or as a volunteer, or as a scholar, other people self-actualize as a partner/wife/life-mate/slave. And some of us as some weird combination of all of those. :)

UllrsIshtar -> RE: Master's must master the whole slave? (12/7/2016 9:41:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: Some people self-actualize at work, or as a mother, or as a volunteer, or as a scholar, other people self-actualize as a partner/wife/life-mate/slave. And some of us as some weird combination of all of those. :) Yup.

mistressjohs -> RE: Master's must master the whole slave? (3/24/2017 9:35:12 PM)
hello! how are you doing???

NoirMetal -> RE: Master's must master the whole slave? (3/24/2017 9:39:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: Why not Codependent No More? But I WANT to be controlled (at least to a degree), to my mind that is pretty much the whole fucking point, so why would I want to read a book about how to lern not to control others? Domination is the art of getting a woman to see things my way.Which is like herding cats.

DesFIP -> RE: Master's must master the whole slave? (3/25/2017 9:28:29 AM)
Because it's unfair to the other person not to be ever able to be ill or tired or need downtime. Codependency puts the blame for whatever emotion you feel on them. It's their job to make you happy, which isn't going to be possible unless mind reading somehow occurs.

NoirMetal -> RE: Master's must master the whole slave? (3/25/2017 7:03:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP Because it's unfair to the other person not to be ever able to be ill or tired or need downtime. Codependency puts the blame for whatever emotion you feel on them. It's their job to make you happy, which isn't going to be possible unless mind reading somehow occurs. I've dated women who made me feel like ren in "Stimpy's invention". With much the same end result.

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