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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/6/2017 8:53:56 PM

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What you have shown is what the definition of priority 1 was after 2010. Without knowing what it was before 2010 how would we be able to discuss the difference?

Actually We Do!

https://www.ice.gov/doclib/foia/prosecutorial-discretion/civil-imm-enforcement-priorities_app-detn-reml-aliens.pdf

Priority 1 Alien as per the Civil Immigration Enforcement: Priorities for the Apprehension, Detention, and Removal of Aliens issued 2011:
• aliens engaged in or suspected of terrorism or espionage, or who otherwise pose a danger to national security;
• aliens convicted of crimes, with a particular emphasis on violent criminals, felons, and
repeat offenders;
• aliens not younger than 16 years of age who participated in organized criminal gangs;
• aliens subject to outstanding criminal warrants; and
• aliens who otherwise pose a serious risk to public safety.

Meaning the line "individuals apprehended at the border while attempting to enter unlawfully" was added in after 2011. Thus making the illegals that work fields at crap pay so they can send it back to their families, to be considered just as evil as Literally Hitler according to the law.

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/7/2017 4:36:04 AM

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What you have shown is what the definition of priority 1 was after 2010. Without knowing what it was before 2010 how would we be able to discuss the difference?

Actually We Do!

So far you have failed to produce it.
The link and what you have posted are dated 2011.
Would you happen to have something from before the articulate big eared phoquer was president?
Still waiting

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/7/2017 5:52:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

What you have shown is what the definition of priority 1 was after 2010. Without knowing what it was before 2010 how would we be able to discuss the difference?

Actually We Do!

So far you have failed to produce it.
The link and what you have posted are dated 2011.
Would you happen to have something from before the articulate big eared phoquer was president?
Still waiting

2010
https://www.ice.gov/doclib/news/releases/2010/civil-enforcement-priorities.pdf
2009
https://www.ice.gov/doclib/detention-reform/pdf/nfop_priorities_goals_expectations.pdf

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/7/2017 6:43:46 AM

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Would you happen to have something from before the articulate big eared phoquer was president?
Still waiting

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/7/2017 8:16:59 AM

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Would you happen to have something from before the articulate big eared phoquer was president?
Still waiting

what do you hope to accomplish by moving the goal posts back further?

First you ask for proof that before it didn't have 'caught at the boarders' as part of it's language.
then when that proof is provided you narrow it down 'before 2010!'
Then when a 2009 memo was supplied proving it; 'Well before Obama took office!'

https://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-1934-appendix-d-grounds-judicial-deportation
Written 1994(?)

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/7/2017 9:28:54 AM

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Would you happen to have something from before the articulate big eared phoquer was president?
Still waiting

what do you hope to accomplish by moving the goal posts back further?

I think the word you are looking for is farther not further.
Moving goal post????
You were sniviling that the big eared lying punk changed the rules of catch and release, Then you post links to when he was president. Which would mean he was changing his own rules. Hardly something to get your underware bunched up over.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

First you ask for proof that before it didn't have 'caught at the boarders' as part of it's language.
then when that proof is provided you narrow it down 'before 2010!'
Then when a 2009 memo was supplied proving it; 'Well before Obama took office!'

He was elected in 2008 took office in january of 2009. Your cite is dated december 2009 which is almost a year after he took office.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

https://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-1934-appendix-d-grounds-judicial-deportation
Written 1994(?)

Your latest offering speaks of aliens not illegal aliens.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

Would you happen to have something from before the articulate big eared phoquer was president?
Still waiting

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/7/2017 5:05:43 PM

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I think the word you are looking for is farther not further.

English - Distinguishing Further from Farther.

Farther denotes an actual measurable distance.
The Barn is Farther away then the Shed.

Further denotes an abstract metaphorical distance.
He pushed himself further then his peers.

The phrase 'Goal posts' in English is contextually an abstract representation of an accepted finish line or win condition - commonly seen in sports. Thus when used in conjunction with a modifier that adds additional distance - the correct word to use is 'Further', rather then 'Farther' because no physical distance has been added, simply abstract metaphorical distance.

Trying to another person's English with out having a full grasp of it yourself will never end out well for you.
especially with the number of typos you produce.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
Moving goal post????
You were sniviling that the big eared lying punk changed the rules of catch and release, Then you post links to when he was president. Which would mean he was changing his own rules. Hardly something to get your underware bunched up over.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

First you ask for proof that before it didn't have 'caught at the boarders' as part of it's language.
then when that proof is provided you narrow it down 'before 2010!'
Then when a 2009 memo was supplied proving it; 'Well before Obama took office!'

He was elected in 2008 took office in january of 2009. Your cite is dated december 2009 which is almost a year after he took office.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

I'm not sure you know how US Laws work... because obviously you're not an English Speaking Native, but Bills and Laws don't just pop into existance in mere moments. Many of these things take time before the transform from an accepted bill into enforcable law - as regulations, rules, conditions, and supporting laws are constructed around it.

Case in point.
the Secure Communities Project - which is what the Priority Enforcement Program is based off of - was started in 2007-2008 by the Bush Administration, being accepted as a bill and pushed into Law 2009-2010. This fits in line with the fact that it takes roughly ~2 years before an accepted bill gets transformed into a functioning and enforceable law.

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https://www.justice.gov/usam/criminal-resource-manual-1934-appendix-d-grounds-judicial-deportation
Written 1994(?)

Your latest offering speaks of aliens not illegal aliens.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

Would you happen to have something from before the articulate big eared phoquer was president?
Still waiting

Aliens doing Illegal things which are the conditions which they're to be deported by...
It is almost as if that is EXACTLY what we are talking about!

And when you compare the 'grounds for deportation' list - they actually coincide with the Priority List quiet well.

Aggravated Felony
Multiple Criminal Convictions
Crime of Moral Turpitude (which eventually became 'Acts of Terrorism')

that is the ground works for what defines Priority 1 Aliens.

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/7/2017 7:09:19 PM

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I think the word you are looking for is farther not further.

English - Distinguishing Further from Farther.

Farther denotes an actual measurable distance.
The Barn is Farther away then the Shed.

The goal post have been moved= distance.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid

Further denotes an abstract metaphorical distance.
He pushed himself further then his peers.

Read more at http://grammar.yourdictionary.com/grammar/style-and-usage/further-vs-farther.html#jb2RTQ47OkH0Jz7q.99

This from your cite.

If you can't replace "further" with "additional" in a sentence, you are using it incorrectly.

Do you really enjoy jerking off in public.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/7/2017 7:35:32 PM

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Moving goal post????
You were sniviling that the big eared lying punk changed the rules of catch and release, Then you post links to when he was president. Which would mean he was changing his own rules. Hardly something to get your underware bunched up over.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

First you ask for proof that before it didn't have 'caught at the boarders' as part of it's language.
then when that proof is provided you narrow it down 'before 2010!'
Then when a 2009 memo was supplied proving it; 'Well before Obama took office!'

He was elected in 2008 took office in january of 2009. Your cite is dated december 2009 which is almost a year after he took office.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

I'm not sure you know how US Laws work...

I am sure you cannot do arithmetic. Would you like to acknowledge that you were wrong about the date or you one of those punkassmotherphoquers who lacks the ethical bassis to admit when they are wrong?

because obviously you're not an English Speaking Native,

Yet somehow I manage to point out your basic inability to actually use the language correctly...further/farther..port of entry/border...etc

but Bills and Laws don't just pop into existance in mere moments. Many of these things take time before the transform from an accepted bill into enforcable law - as regulations, rules, conditions, and supporting laws are constructed around it.

And yet you produce two documents from mr. big ears dated about a year apart. Make up your mind sweetie.

Your latest offering speaks of aliens not illegal aliens.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

Would you happen to have something from before the articulate big eared phoquer was president?
Still waiting

Aliens doing Illegal things which are the conditions which they're to be deported by...
It is almost as if that is EXACTLY what we are talking about!

Almost works in horse shoes and hand grenades...keep trying sweetie I am sure that works in your sophmore debate class but 'dat shit don't float here'

Not even close sweet cheeks, one addresses aliens who are legally here and will be deported for doing such and such.

Crime of Moral Turpitude (which eventually became 'Acts of Terrorism')

Put down the bong and try again after you take a nap.
Moral turpitude is what we kinksters do, it is not terrorism

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/7/2017 8:32:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
I think the word you are looking for is farther not further.

English - Distinguishing Further from Farther.

Farther denotes an actual measurable distance.
The Barn is Farther away then the Shed.

Further denotes an abstract metaphorical distance.
He pushed himself further then his peers.

The phrase 'Goal posts' in English is contextually an abstract representation of an accepted finish line or win condition - commonly seen in sports. Thus when used in conjunction with a modifier that adds additional distance - the correct word to use is 'Further', rather then 'Farther' because no physical distance has been added, simply abstract metaphorical distance.

Trying to another person's English with out having a full grasp of it yourself will never end out well for you.
especially with the number of typos you produce.

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/8/2017 3:31:36 AM

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Isn't the word you are looking for is farther not further?

English - Distinguishing Further from Farther.

Farther denotes an actual measurable distance.
The Barn is Farther away then the Shed.

Than not then dumbass.

Further denotes an abstract metaphorical distance.
He pushed himself further then his peers.

Than not then dumbass

The phrase 'Goal posts' in English is contextually an abstract representation of an accepted finish line or win condition - commonly seen in sports. Thus when used in conjunction with a modifier that adds additional distance

Distance added = farther

- the correct word to use is 'Further', rather then 'Farther' because no physical distance has been added, simply abstract metaphorical distance.

Trying to another person's English with out having a full grasp of it yourself will never end out well for you.

Doesn't a sentence require a verb?

especially with the number of typos you produce.

Roflmfao

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/8/2017 4:16:37 AM

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what do you hope to accomplish by moving the goal posts back further?

so that he can continue to be a gadfly.

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/8/2017 4:25:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Isn't the word you are looking for is farther not further?

English - Distinguishing Further from Farther.

Farther denotes an actual measurable distance.
The Barn is Farther away then the Shed.

Than not then dumbass.

Further denotes an abstract metaphorical distance.
He pushed himself further then his peers.

Than not then dumbass

The phrase 'Goal posts' in English is contextually an abstract representation of an accepted finish line or win condition - commonly seen in sports. Thus when used in conjunction with a modifier that adds additional distance

Distance added = farther

Nitpicking small typographical errors is all that you're capable of resorting to?
Wow... that is... actually literally pathetic.

Nope - Still further.
The 'goal post' is a figurative end state that has no quantifiable measured distance to reach...
furthermore, the statement itself is a figurative turn of phrase, as it isn't as if you've actually dug up a literal goal post and have physically ran a specific distance with it before re-planting it.

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- the correct word to use is 'Further', rather then 'Farther' because no physical distance has been added, simply abstract metaphorical distance.

Trying to another person's English with out having a full grasp of it yourself will never end out well for you.

Doesn't a sentence require a verb?

especially with the number of typos you produce.

Roflmfao

Not in informal conversations... Most informal conversations consist of sentence fragments and incomplete sentences because standard conversation dictates a completion of thoughts and answers to questions and inquiry rather then the formulation of paragraphs.

Dumb ass is not one word.
It is spelled dumb ass or dumb-ass.

so dumbass is a typo.

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/8/2017 6:36:24 AM

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Nitpicking small typographical errors is all that you're capable of resorting to?
Wow... that is... actually literally pathetic.

Bad when I do it, good when you do it?
You must be special?

Trying to another person's English with out having a full grasp of it yourself will never end out well for you.

Doesn't a sentence require a verb?

especially with the number of typos you produce.

Bad when I do it good when you do it?
You must be special?

so dumbass is a typo.

No dumbass.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/8/2017 6:38:40 AM

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Would you happen to have something from before the articulate big eared phoquer was president?
Still waiting

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/8/2017 6:54:11 AM

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what do you hope to accomplish by moving the goal posts back further?

so that he can continue to be a gadfly.

He is no gadfly

Gadflies are bothersome, because their arguments are substantive

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/8/2017 7:14:02 AM

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Bad when I do it, good when you do it?
You must be special?

I don't nitpick small typographical errors of yours...

I point out the fact that you completely miss large contextual cues, do not understand commonly used colloquialisms, and you regularly use words incorrectly or simply do not (or refuse to) understand them...

For instance - you had a long argument in another thread about 'Convection Fires'
http://www.collarchat.com/m_4994485/mpage_26/key_/tm.htm#5006997

Have tried to argue the difference between Further and Farther.
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=5008105

Claimed that that the 'Legal process for Deporting Aliens' is not the same as, nor referencing directly 'Illegal Aliens'
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=5008105

And claim that a Circular Advisory was talking about Airports and Airfields.
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=5007571

You are nitpicking that i misused the words Then vs Than.
We are not doing the same thing.

You're being ignorant.
I'm proving that you are ignorant.

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/8/2017 7:15:33 AM

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Would you happen to have something from before the articulate big eared phoquer was president?
Still waiting

Already have.
you're too incompetent to understand that.

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/8/2017 7:19:04 AM

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He is no gadfly

So right you are...I am the one who points to the pig phoquer and laughs.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: SHADES OF THE PAST. - 3/8/2017 4:26:21 PM

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what do you hope to accomplish by moving the goal posts back further?

so that he can continue to be a gadfly.

He is no gadfly

Gadflies are bothersome, because their arguments are substantive

i'll agree wholeheartedly with you on your supposition that his arguments aren't substantive.

but my little oxford American English dictionary definition for gadfly is him in spades: "a person who annoys others, especially by criticizing."

I suppose it comes down to how we are each understanding "criticism."

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