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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 4:33:22 AM   
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I can see your point, but that doesn't escape the fact that a number of politicians, whatever their spiel, lie a good bit less than Trump, even some Republicans.

But if you find someone who speaks like a dumbshit, due in no small part because he actually is a dumbshit, to be more to your liking, than so be it.

Myself, like the rest of Trump voters are sick of Good Convincing Liars that are traditional politicians. We love that Trump is so obvious when he lies. I mean many of his supporters do not believe he will fulfill half of what he said. Take Billionaire Evan Spiegal for example. Big supporter of Trump but claims all his words are just rhetoric.

I believe Trump will try to fulfill as much as he promised. But when he made those promises, he made it as an inexperienced politician, not really knowing how difficult it is to implement all that he wants to do. So that will be his challenge to navigate that.


So apparently it's time that the lowest thinkers of the world have their say. I get it. I'm not as freaked out about it as some others are. Let's just get it out of the way and be done with it.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 4:37:44 AM   
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I'm an Australian living in the U.K. and it is incorrect to say that people on a tourist visa are allowed to work for limited hours in either of these countries. It is never legal to enter a country for any purpose other than what is allowable for a particular visa. In my knowledge, no country in the world allows work on a tourist visa. It would be a nightmare to deal with Heath and Safety policies, Worker's insurance, taxes. It's inconceivable that this would be allowed.

Having said that, there are specific visas that will allow limited work but they are different from a tourist visa. As a rule of thumb, you must NEVER enter another country for any purpose other than that is stated and is allowable for the visa (or visa waiver program) that you have been granted. This is a standard condition for all international travel. You can't study on a tourist visa, you can't work on a tourist visa. You can marry under some visas but there are specific conditions related to this.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 4:39:49 AM   
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No, it isn't - it's worse than just being an illegal or overstaying.
It's a deliberate fraud as well as being illegal.
It's not a minor thing.

I disagree. In some countries, tourists are allowed limited work hours anyway. UK and Australia has them.

On top of that, as a model, they fly to all over the world to do photoshoots. When they get the job, they just turn up, model the photos and fly back to where they come from.

To say she intentionally did it would be exaggerating. I'd say whoever employed her to do the modeling job failed to follow proper US laws on photo shoots of foreign models.

Actually, you are wrong.
You are NOT allowed to work (paid OR unpaid) in the UK without a work visa unless you are from the EU where a visa is not required.

Those models that fly all over the world usually have a work visa to do their work in the country they are doing it.
They don't just fly there, do the shoot, then leave without the proper documents and permissions.
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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 4:44:19 AM   
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This woman took a pic of a naked 70 yr old woman in a locker room. putting it on facebook to have a laugh.
Its not transgender people that are the "problem", its human beings. (in my experience, the trans people I have known, just want to get in and out.)


http://globalnews.ca/news/3047527/playmate-dani-mathers-charged-for-taking-body-shaming-gym-photo/

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 4:51:16 AM   
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Cite please.


Just go back to your last post where you bring up your links about Singapore poverty versus India poverty and see his response to you.


Hmmm....no cite...lying again.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.


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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 4:53:46 AM   
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I agree with a third option for bathrooms but I would make it for anyone who didn't want to go in a male or female bathroom for what ever reason. No labels needed or wanted. I have met women who don't feel safe in any public bathroom. They could use the third one and take a friend. They already have family bathrooms in a lot of places so they wouldn't even have to build new ones in some spots. If you feel your son is to old to go in the womens room with you but not old enough to trust to go in the mens alone, take him in the third choice. That way everyone has a bathroom they can feel safe in.


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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 5:01:17 AM   
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There is no way to catch people who film upskirt videos and in female toilets, as i was saying, especially changing rooms.

Handicapped bathrooms have a pull cord that sounds an alarm, alerting the staff that there is an urgent problem. The same system could be employed for stalls.

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It's just naked women walking everywhere. So people could just pretend to be texting on their phones. And be filming!

Okay: stop walking in common areas naked, and then living in fear of transgender people coming in to perv on you. That doesn't occur, and if you can't take the responsibility for protecting your own privacy in a common area, then you are creating a situation where a man can just walk right into the bathroom and rape a woman very easily and taking no responsibility for yourselves. (Not a transgender person-- a man.)

I suspect if Malaysian bathrooms are truly places where women walk around naked, then transgender people would already not want to be there. I know five people who have transitioned or are in the process of transitioning. I asked two of them in the past week how they feel about using the bathroom. He said he never uses a urinal, always uses the stall. She said I just use the stall. They want privacy, but they don't want to feel alien-- in the wrong space for their gender.

Greta, it's never bothered me that a person feels like they were meant to be a man and born in the wrong body, or born a man and meant to be a woman. I didn't use to understand it, but even when I didn't understand it, at a minimum, I respected other human beings right to exist and share space with me. With a little empathy for how it must feel to be transgender, I began to realize some of the discomfort they would feel in either bathroom, and I asked those I knew respectful questions about their situation.

In short, I got over myself.

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There is no way to verify if the Transgender IS a Transgender or a man in drag. Since being trans is all about what gender you identify inside, despite your physical appearance. So if you look like a man and have all the male parts but you feel like a woman inside. You are a transgender. So how do we know if it's a real transgender?

Thus, it does not make sense to allow them into Female bathroom.

By that shitty logic, a eunuch must be employed to strip and grope all people who enter any bathroom.

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LGBT toilet is the best solution.

Multi-gender single toilet, with privacy and pull cords, makes a lot more sense. But then, you have to culturally be able to trust that your men won't rape or cause problems, and will clean after themselves. If you don't have this, maybe people changing their gender and using your restroom isn't that pressing of a problem, and men respecting you is a problem.

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And in the US, it's not illegal to film anybody in public. A public toilet would be public.

It might be fun to say, but that's not true of someone in a stall, where they have an expectation of privacy. If a man tried using his phone at a urinal, he would at minimum risk a serious fist-fight with his penis hanging out, because it would be looked on by other men as pervert activity.

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Because if you think about it. And if you happen to be a left person who oppose guns.

Then it would be the same logic. Why are we punishing good gun owners right? Because it's for the safety of majority.

Look, I come from a gun free country, so I believe gun-free works perfectly even if it punishes good gun owners.

A gun is something you go out and choose because you are afraid, and it's dangerous. It can kill people.

Being transgender has never killed someone who wasn't transgender. Nor has it raped someone who wasn't transgender. You are blaming innocents and overlooking serious holes in your logic out of ickyness.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 5:06:47 AM   
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I'm an Australian living in the U.K. and it is incorrect to say that people on a tourist visa are allowed to work for limited hours in either of these countries. It is never legal to enter a country for any purpose other than what is allowable for a particular visa. In my knowledge, no country in the world allows work on a tourist visa. It would be a nightmare to deal with Heath and Safety policies, Worker's insurance, taxes. It's inconceivable that this would be allowed.

Having said that, there are specific visas that will allow limited work but they are different from a tourist visa. As a rule of thumb, you must NEVER enter another country for any purpose other than that is stated and is allowable for the visa (or visa waiver program) that you have been granted. This is a standard condition for all international travel. You can't study on a tourist visa, you can't work on a tourist visa. You can marry under some visas but there are specific conditions related to this.

No way, then what do you call those backpackers who always work in hostels who are just on tourist visa?

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 5:12:09 AM   
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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 5:12:33 AM   
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I highly doubt the nurses were Singaporean nurses though.

Perhaps tht is because of the low pay?



You missed out on mentioning their nationality.
Were they Muslims? Or China?


When did muslim become a nationality?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.




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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 5:13:37 AM   
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The same system could be employed for stalls.

Usually when someone is videoing you, you may not notice!

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Okay: stop walking in common areas naked,

I don't walk in common areas naked, but as I said, there are shower rooms in some western countries in female toilets that has NO DOORS or partitions! So you have no choice but to bath naked infront of the whole world!
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With a little empathy for how it must feel to be transgender, I began to realize some of the discomfort they would feel in either bathroom, and I asked those I knew respectful questions about their situation.

Precisely since they will feel discomfort in either bathroom, thus Third Bathroom is the best solution. Everybody is happy. Everybody is comfortable!
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By that shitty logic, a eunuch must be employed to strip and grope all people who enter any bathroom.

The whole point of segregated bathroom is to make sure the right people walk into it. What makes a male transgendered? Does he have to dress like a female? What if a male that dress like a normal male just walks in and says he feels female inside? How do we make sure it's a genuine transgender that walks into a female bathroom?

Third bathroom that covers LGBT covers all these situation.

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Being transgender has never killed someone who wasn't transgender. Nor has it raped someone who wasn't transgender. You are blaming innocents and overlooking serious holes in your logic out of ickyness.

Guns are dangerous. So is potential nude photo leaks, sexual assaults and rape. Seriously, same thing.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 5:15:49 AM   
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When did muslim become a nationality?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.


Muslims from Malaysia are known for preferring squatting to sitting, because they don't believe in using toilet paper but using water to wash themselves. So when I say Muslims, I am referring to the dominant race of Malaysia people.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 5:17:34 AM   
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No way, then what do you call those backpackers who always work in hostels who are just on tourist visa?


I would call them the exact same thing I call dumb dons third wife...criminals.
Lock the bitch up and toss her scrawney ass out whrn her prison time is up.


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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 5:18:22 AM   
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This woman took a pic of a naked 70 yr old woman in a locker room. putting it on facebook to have a laugh.
Its not transgender people that are the "problem", its human beings. (in my experience, the trans people I have known, just want to get in and out.)


http://globalnews.ca/news/3047527/playmate-dani-mathers-charged-for-taking-body-shaming-gym-photo/

Yes and she was crucified really badly for it!
But when she did it, it wasn't for perverted reasons. It was to body shame.
It's still bad, but it's worst when it's for perverted reasons.
Once your picture goes up in some porn site, even if you were innocent, people think you are guilty. That woman who's picture unwittedly went up some porn site may not get the sympathy this woman is getting.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 5:21:23 AM   
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When did muslim become a nationality?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.



Muslims from Malaysia are known for preferring squatting to sitting, because they don't believe in using toilet paper but using water to wash themselves. So when I say Muslims, I am referring to the dominant race of Malaysia people.

What you are saying is that you are just plane phoquing stupid.
Muslim is not a nationality nor is it a race.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.


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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 5:21:31 AM   
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In regards to working in Australia in a Tourist Visa, there is a working holiday visa. Where you can be a tourist and work. You are just not allowed to work for more than 3 months in any job. But you can work as a tourist.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 5:23:12 AM   
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What you are saying is that you are just plane phoquing stupid.
Muslim is not a nationality nor is it a race.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.


I'm just speaking Singaporean. In Singapore, Muslims only refers to a specific racial group.
It's universally understood in our country, but I understand on national stage, Muslims refer to alot more different races.
But I am glad you agree Muslims isn't a race.
Maybe you should also inform those who keep calling anti-Islam people racists.


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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 5:23:18 AM   
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Still waiting.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 5:24:39 AM   
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Still waiting.


I am not gonna do your work for you. If you go back to your post where you post links of India versus Singapore poverty levels. You will see the person's reply to you. IF you can't locate your own post. I am not gonna find it for you.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 5:24:44 AM   
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Wifey5 as I said Chosen gender I have no issue with this, nor should anyone else save the mentally deranged. But for clarity sake I did not mention cross dressers did I…but I have in the past and they must go forth and wee in the toilets of their origins

His wife – I don’t actually mind her – But I can tell just by looking at her she feels trapped doomed forever, to the adulterer. Do you want my house of cards argument? And can you stop making shit up you know how it annoys me eg Then invite all the good ones to come back through proper channels.



Kaliko
– I am sorry. It is an unusual environment for this to happen in, but it does happen...and it will happen to young boys more than it does young girls...which is why my first reply was worded as it was.

public bathrooms (what do Americans call them washrooms or something) are safe environments. Besides women's bathrooms have stalls so they are inherently private.


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