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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 6:40:00 AM

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The 'equal rights" that the Democrat party is pushing, the directive that Obama gave to all schools, was that anyone can use any restroom

That would work for me. Then the question is about how people behave in restrooms, period. Trans, cis, whatever-- just live and let live. Then, there wouldn't be any issues of trying to push trans-folk out of bathrooms.

Or, come to that, guys who feel that they have to prove something by attacking homosexuals lurking where they can keep an eye on the trans toilet so they can make a note of who to beat to a pulp.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 6:42:53 AM

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For that to happen. No more urinals. Just pure cubicles for everybody. But even then. I will feel extremely uncomfortable with a strange man peeing in a cubicle beside me.

Extremely uncomfortable!
Since you "claim" to not live in amerika it does not affect you so if you stay the phoque out of my country it has no affect on you.

While it doesn't affect me, I am sure there are many females over there who will feel uncomfortable because of it.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 6:48:21 AM

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Mike Pence horrified to discover unisex toilet in own house

Hey, we don't actually know IF they actually have unisex toilets in the house.

I saw an interview on Kelly Ripa, that in America, they believe married couples who share toilets may destroy their marriage. So it's apparently quite common to have separate bathrooms in their homes for straight married couples at the very least.

Also, some things in America shocks me. Like separate bedrooms after marriage is normal too.

I guess if there are separate bedrooms, there are definitely gonna be separate bathrooms.

Oh FFS Greta this is horseshit. Every word of it. Just one more glaring example of how you are so ignorant and incredibly misinformed about the world.

Of all the people I visited in the US, even if they had more than one toilet, it wasn't a his'n'hers separate set of toilets.
The vast majority of homes here only have one toilet.
So in that sense, pretty much most toilets, except those in public places/buildings, are unisex toilets.
Why Greta seems to think those with more than one toilet in their home are separate for the sexes is very bizarre.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 6:49:52 AM

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The vast majority of homes here only have one toilet.

That's pretty weird.
Homes here usually have one toilet per room.
Why are there so little toilets in homes over there? When you guys have so much bigger space than us?
I grew up in a 3 roomer and we had 3 toilets even in our tiny flat.
I personally grew up hating to share toilets with my brothers.
But my x-husband was the most pleasurable male to ever share a toilet with. Because his toilet habits are excellent. We lived in a one room one toilet tiny flat.
But with my x-dom, I hated sharing toilet with him too, but fortunately we lived in a flat with 3 toilets, well again, 3 rooms and 3 toilets. So I got 2 toilets and he got 1. Actually I get the toilet thing. I do not like sharing toilets with males most of the time. I like my toilets really clean. Well to fair, I had to share a toilet in an apartment in Australia while schooling there with a Pakistani woman once who speaks perfect English, seem very intelligent and educated but it was a nightmare. The toilet hygiene. In the end, I moved out to rent a room with my own personal toilet in somewhere nearby. So much more pleasurable.
But I don't get the don't sleep together thing.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 6:53:46 AM

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Mike Pence horrified to discover unisex toilet in own house

Hey, we don't actually know IF they actually have unisex toilets in the house.

I saw an interview on Kelly Ripa, that in America, they believe married couples who share toilets may destroy their marriage. So it's apparently quite common to have separate bathrooms in their homes for straight married couples at the very least.

Also, some things in America shocks me. Like separate bedrooms after marriage is normal too.

I guess if there are separate bedrooms, there are definitely gonna be separate bathrooms.

Oh FFS Greta this is horseshit. Every word of it. Just one more glaring example of how you are so ignorant and incredibly misinformed about the world.

Of all the people I visited in the US, even if they had more than one toilet, it wasn't a his'n'hers separate set of toilets.
The vast majority of homes here only have one toilet.
So in that sense, pretty much most toilets, except those in public places/buildings, are unisex toilets.
Why Greta seems to think those with more than one toilet in their home are separate for the sexes is very bizarre.

Homes are different from buildings with hundreds or thousands of occupants, leave it to an alt left drooler to compare apricots to Hyundais

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 6:57:35 AM

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You really do live in your own twisted little world. I know tons of gun owners, myself included, and none of us have ever bought a gun because we were "afraid". Guns are fun to shoot! My ex-wife was absolutely phobic about guns, until I talked her into humoring me and going to the range. Now she owns three. Plus some people hunt, or use them for varmint control. Even if you carry, it's not because you're afraid. You carry for the same reason that you make sure to have personal flotation gear and an emergency beacon with its batteries in good order aboard your boat. I've been around boats my entire life. I've never been sunk, and I don't expect to be anytime soon. I have that gear aboard because if I need it and don't have it I'm fucked. I mean seriously, what the hell is the matter with you?

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The primary reason I hear for guns is always home/self defense. And even here, you say I have that gear aboard because if I need it and don't have it I'm fucked, and yet you don't see that it identifies you as being dependent on a killing weapon to make you feel safe.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 6:57:38 AM

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well, as a slobbering felchgobbler yourself, which buildings have hundreds of thousands of occupants?

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 6:58:32 AM

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For that to happen. No more urinals. Just pure cubicles for everybody. But even then. I will feel extremely uncomfortable with a strange man peeing in a cubicle beside me.

Extremely uncomfortable!
Since you "claim" to not live in amerika it does not affect you so if you stay the phoque out of my country it has no affect on you.

While it doesn't affect me,

If it does not affect you and never will, unless you are lying and do live here then why are you running your mouth?

I am sure there are many females over there who will feel uncomfortable because of it.

Since you claim not to live here how can you make that assumption?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 7:06:08 AM

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I am sure there are many females over there who will feel uncomfortable because of it.
Since you claim not to live here how can you make that assumption?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

Because women are women everywhere.
Most women would not like to share toilets with males.
Especially when they need it for make up, and girl chat, and many things they don't want men around.
We have some shopping mall toilets so nice over here, made with even sofas in female toilets so that women can hang out in there.
It's like our escape and sanctuary.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 7:13:53 AM

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You really do live in your own twisted little world. I know tons of gun owners,

How many tons?
Let's see a ton is 2000 lbs. so that would be twenty 100 pounders or ten 200 pounders per tron.

myself included, and none of us have ever bought a gun because we were "afraid". Guns are fun to shoot! My ex-wife was absolutely phobic about guns, until I talked her into humoring me and going to the range. Now she owns three. Plus some people hunt,

Hunters use guns because they are afraid they cannot take down bambi's mother with out getting hurt.

or use them for varmint control.

Hunters of varmints would be afraid of the damage and disease that the varmints cause.

Even if you carry, it's not because you're afraid.

That sounds illogical at best and an outright lie at the rational end of the spectrum. Not everyone is "chuck norris". You bet your ass people carry because they are afraid of being mugged.

You carry for the same reason that you make sure to have personal flotation gear and an emergency beacon with its batteries in good order aboard your boat.

Because you are afraid of drowning.
You obviously have not had your coffee yet this morning.
You are normally more logical than this.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 7:19:37 AM

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The primary reason I hear for guns is always home/self defense. And even here, you say I have that gear aboard because if I need it and don't have it I'm fucked, and yet you don't see that it identifies you as being dependent on a killing weapon to make you feel safe.

I see that you fancy yourself a mind-reader. If my boat goes down offshore, and I'm alone in the water with a beacon and a prayer, you can bet that "safe" is the last thing I'm going to be feeling for quite a while. Do you have even any remote contact with reality?

And while we're on the subject of reality, what is with this "killing weapon" shit? Firearms are designed to wound. A fatal wound depends on shot placement and luck. If guns were really designed to kill, they would be the engineering laughing stock of the century.

One Bullet Can Kill, but Sometimes 20 Don’t, Survivors Show ~NY Times
Abdominal gunshot wounds. An urban trauma center's experience ~Ann Surg
Unusually low mortality of penetrating wounds of the chest ~J Thorac Cardiovasc Surg
Surveillance for Fatal and Nonfatal Firearm-Related Injuries ~CDC

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 7:19:51 AM

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I am sure there are many females over there who will feel uncomfortable because of it.
Since you claim not to live here how can you make that assumption?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

Because women are women everywhere.

Except for the muslim women you keep telling us.

Most women would not like to share toilets with males.

You can speak only for yourself and no one else.

Especially when they need it for make up,

Muslim women wear make up????

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 7:25:31 AM

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You really do live in your own twisted little world. I know tons of gun owners, myself included, and none of us have ever bought a gun because we were "afraid". Guns are fun to shoot! My ex-wife was absolutely phobic about guns, until I talked her into humoring me and going to the range. Now she owns three. Plus some people hunt, or use them for varmint control. Even if you carry, it's not because you're afraid. You carry for the same reason that you make sure to have personal flotation gear and an emergency beacon with its batteries in good order aboard your boat. I've been around boats my entire life. I've never been sunk, and I don't expect to be anytime soon. I have that gear aboard because if I need it and don't have it I'm fucked. I mean seriously, what the hell is the matter with you?

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The primary reason I hear for guns is always home/self defense. And even here, you say I have that gear aboard because if I need it and don't have it I'm fucked, and yet you don't see that it identifies you as being dependent on a killing weapon to make you feel safe.

When did personal flotation gear become a killing weapon? Or were you in such a hurry to claim you were right that you didn't bother to actually read what you were responding to? Seems to be a lot of that going around.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 7:30:40 AM

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Muslim women wear make up????

Even Saudi women wear make up.
What are you talking about? Muslim women are most crazy about make up and high heels.
The more deprived they are compared to other women to dress up nice. They are doing whatever they can to still look pretty where it is possible.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 7:33:56 AM

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I would like to take issue with Gary on some points he makes.

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But transgender people don't rape. There is no history of transgender people raping the sex they are transitioning to in public bathrooms.

Incorrect.

From eaglerising: A biological man, Christopher Hambrook, claimed to be ‘transgender’ in order to prey on women at two Toronto shelters. He was recently jailed “indefinitely” after a judge declared him to be a “dangerous offender.”

The Toronto Sun reports that Hambrook, a man, who called himself “Jessica,” entered women’s shelters and sexually assaulted several women in 2012. He served four years in jail in Montreal for a 2002 sexual assault of a five-year-old girl, and for raping a mentally challenged 27-year-old woman while on bail for the first crime.

This is exactly what gender rational people have been arguing: allowing men into women’s bathrooms poses dangers to women and girls. It’s irrational, irresponsible, and gives predators free access to prey on the innocent.

From christianpost: The conservative Family Research Council has compiled a list of 21 incidents of men assaulting or violating women's privacy in public bathrooms, warning that despite what activists claim, transgender-friendly policies do increase the risk of such crimes.

So to flippantly dismiss this very real fear that many express, is a falsehood.
And this was just the first two entries from thousands in the search.

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From the start, I would point out that human beings are all born female. We transition in utero. So it is entirely possible that a mistake is made, now and then, in this process.

Again, incorrect.

From menshealth: We all start as a generic embryo. You have a set of male or female sex chromosomes, but the distinction doesn't kick in until your hormones enter the picture, he explains. Without hormones like testosterone, you would stay on the path to womanhood.

So right from the outset, unless you have a chromosome disorder, your sex is determined at the point of conception.
You are not born female then transition in-utero as he claims.

I think Gary is somewhat TG-friendly to the extent that they dismiss real facts about trans people to play down real people's fears.
Kaloko's fears are real and should be addressed properly and correctly; not white-washed over by the likes of Gary.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 7:34:51 AM

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Muslim women wear make up????

Even Saudi women wear make up.
What are you talking about? Muslim women are most crazy about make up and high heels.
The more deprived they are compared to other women to dress up nice. They are doing whatever they can to still look pretty where it is possible.

Cite please.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 7:41:31 AM

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Cite please.

I am not citing what I see everyday in Malaysia and Singapore and even in Indonesia.
They all wear make up and wear high heels.
If you don't believe, go travel to a Muslim country and see for yourself.

But you can read about Saudi women here. There is even National geographic documentary on this! Showing the behind the scene and it's exactly as this person describes.

https://www.esl101.com/blogs/fashion-saudi-arabia#.WLL32jjuq5w

The Saudi women dress to impress…and by that I mean impress other women because men aren’t seeing them. They are always really dressy when there is an event. This could be a somewhat nice event and the women are dressed up, full make-up and perfect hair. I don’t know how they manage to keep their make-up straight when they have to cover their faces and how their hair looks so perfect even though they have something wrapped around their head on their commute. I guess it’s just practice. So at any point that they are going out for something where they are allowed to take off their abayas, you can expect fashionable clothes, a full face of make-up (heavy foundation, dark eyes and bold lips) and flawless hair. That’s how they roll!

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 7:44:10 AM

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Mike Pence horrified to discover unisex toilet in own house

Hey, we don't actually know IF they actually have unisex toilets in the house.

I saw an interview on Kelly Ripa, that in America, they believe married couples who share toilets may destroy their marriage. So it's apparently quite common to have separate bathrooms in their homes for straight married couples at the very least.

Also, some things in America shocks me. Like separate bedrooms after marriage is normal too.

I guess if there are separate bedrooms, there are definitely gonna be separate bathrooms.

Oh FFS Greta this is horseshit. Every word of it. Just one more glaring example of how you are so ignorant and incredibly misinformed about the world.

Of all the people I visited in the US, even if they had more than one toilet, it wasn't a his'n'hers separate set of toilets.
The vast majority of homes here only have one toilet.
So in that sense, pretty much most toilets, except those in public places/buildings, are unisex toilets.
Why Greta seems to think those with more than one toilet in their home are separate for the sexes is very bizarre.

I've been in houses where the wife and husband have their own bathroom and a separate one for guests. And while they most of the people I know don't do this, obviously that doesn't mean no one does. Also a lot of my friends wish they had the money and the space to do this but can't. Now I can't speak for bathrooms over there so I will have to take your word that most houses only have one, but it makes me feel bad for you blokes. You must spend a lot of time with your knees pressed together praying you get there in time.

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 8:00:15 AM

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Cite please.

I am not citing what I see everyday in Malaysia and Singapore and even in Indonesia.

as usual nothing to back up your very shallow lies.

They all wear make up and wear high heels.
If you don't believe, go travel to a Muslim country and see for yourself.

So ,according to you, they are not real muslims and the men will kill them. But waite if you see them and the men have not killed them how is it that the muslims run that third world shithole called singapore as you claim?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

But you can read about Saudi women here. There is even National geographic documentary on this! Showing the behind the scene and it's exactly as this person describes.

https://www.esl101.com/blogs/fashion-saudi-arabia#.WLL32jjuq5w

The Saudi women dress to impress…and by that I mean impress other women because men aren’t seeing them.

Jesus you are phoquing stupid

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RE: Trump Deportation Plan and bringing safe toilets back - 2/26/2017 8:01:20 AM

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And while we're on the subject of reality, what is with this "killing weapon" shit? Firearms are designed to wound. A fatal wound depends on shot placement and luck. If guns were really designed to kill, they would be the engineering laughing stock of the century.

Enlarged and quoted so you can't hide from having said this later.

You are such a tool. I know responsible gun owners. They can debate gun ownership and admit there is a dependency instead of trying to dodge the issue; they smartly defend their dependency by social concerns and the already-present proliferation of guns in American society.

Not one of them would ever be so stupid as to openly lie and say guns are designed to injure and not kill. Any cop worth his salt will tell you that they are trained not to wound a suspect, but to kill a suspect-- drawing a weapon means you are preparing to kill.

You seriously have no business owning guns if you have to deny a dependency whilst confirming it, and can't admit that they are designed to kill and not wound.

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