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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/25/2017 2:22:16 PM

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There are plenty of pro Dommes out there. That isn't the issue. The issue is that the guys you speak about don't want to pay for what they want. Now also there is something else; why the fuck should anyone else pay for their porn fueled fantasies, just because they've gone through a DR, when they can have a wank like everyone else?

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/25/2017 2:24:59 PM

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There are plenty of pro Dommes out there. That isn't the issue. The issue is that the guys you speak about don't want to pay for what they want. Now also there is something else; why the fuck should anyone else pay for their porn fueled fantasies, just because they've gone through a DR, when they can have a wank like everyone else?

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They would still have to pay for their prescribed treatment.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/25/2017 2:32:57 PM

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If they won't just go and fricking pay for it to start with, why the hell would they pay for it just because a Dr said so? Plus here in the UK a prescription costs less than £9, so the NHS would have to be picking up the rest of the tab. In the US you either have insurance, or you don't, so again either they won't pay, or someone else is also putting in to help cover the costs of what should just be a wank.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/25/2017 2:40:30 PM

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I am in the UK. This treatment would be full price, whatever that is. The doctor would make them watch a "Domme awareness" video that would make them realise they are cutting of their own nose to spite their face, and doing themselves more harm than good by trying to save money.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/25/2017 2:50:54 PM

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Seriously? You know the shit our country is going through, and this is the crap that's on your mind? Because our Dr's and just not quite under enough pressure with really sick and dying people are they? These man are not ill, they just want to get their rocks off for free, just like they see in porn. They don't want, or can't afford to spend money. They can wank away all they like, just like everyone else, for free without bothering a poor Dr.

I think you need something more important to engage your mind.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/25/2017 2:52:55 PM

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Seriously? You know the shit our country is going through, and this is the crap that's on your mind? Because our Dr's and just not quite under enough pressure with really sick and dying people are they? These man are not ill, they just want to get their rocks off for free, just like they see in porn. They don't want, or can't afford to spend money. They can wank away all they like, just like everyone else, for free without bothering a poor Dr.

I think you need something more important to engage your mind.

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Yeah deadly serious!

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/25/2017 3:09:10 PM

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Again, get something far more important to occupy your mind. They can already pay for it if they choose, if not, they can do like the rest of mankind and have a wank rather than put unnecessary stress on the NHS Because even if they had to pay for a Domme, which they weren't ever willing to pay for in the first place, just because a DR told them so, the Dr appointments would still be costing the tax payer, the referrals would still be costing the tax payer, and somewhere down the line you're get some bleeding heart idiot that would claim they couldn't possibly afford such treatment, and so therefore it should be funded. So bollocks to all that. The NHS is underfunded, and at risk enough as it is already.

Why don't you entertain your struggling mind with something far more complex, you know, like how you could actually save money for the NHS, and voting correctly on the 8TH so that we actually have an NHS at all, you know, for those actual real life emergencies instead of this stupid crap you have here instead.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/25/2017 3:21:30 PM

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Again, get something far more important to occupy your mind. They can already pay for it if they choose, if not, they can do like the rest of mankind and have a wank rather than put unnecessary stress on the NHS Because even if they had to pay for a Domme, which they weren't ever willing to pay for in the first place, just because a DR told them so, the Dr appointments would still be costing the tax payer, the referrals would still be costing the tax payer, and somewhere down the line you're get some bleeding heart idiot that would claim they couldn't possibly afford such treatment, and so therefore it should be funded. So bollocks to all that. The NHS is underfunded, and at risk enough as it is already.

Why don't you entertain your struggling mind with something far more complex, you know, like how you could actually save money for the NHS, and voting correctly on the 8TH so that we actually have an NHS at all, you know, for those actual real life emergencies instead of this stupid crap you have here instead.

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I don't think my poor mind can cope with anything more complex, I'm obviously not as clever as you. But my photos here did raise £1240 for cancer research, so hopefully that will save the NHS some money in the long run.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/25/2017 3:26:32 PM

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I did write a manifesto if you want to vote for me, it includes reopening UK coal mines and sending all males who say "I will do anything for you" down there to work.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/25/2017 3:28:20 PM

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Really? you think so lol Maybe if you were smarter you'd realise that only 5% of the cancer research charities money gets given to actual research. That actually their CEO makes a 6 figure salary, and they have huge corporate parties paid for by your money. Not only that, but they already are aware of what cures many cancers, but they can't make money from that because it's natural, unlike pumping people full of toxic shit like chemo. But yeah, go ahead and try to convince yourself that that is what you're doing.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/25/2017 3:38:26 PM

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You haven't even convinced most forum members yet that you're right. So why would they have ideas?

I've convinced you. Don't you have any ideas?

Nah, I've always been convinced that there ought to be proDommes.

As far as my ideas on increasing their population goes: find a way to increase market demand.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/25/2017 10:12:50 PM

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The reason these men don't want to pay for it is because paying for it has been associated with being a loser and pro-dommes are essentially prostitutes, which means that whether they like it or not, visiting them carries many of the same stigmas as visiting prostitutes. Would you believe a prostitute if she said you were the best fuck she ever had? Would you believe that her moans and screams and begging are real? What if you told her that this was what you wanted from her in advance? You could never be sure because you can never know if she's telling the truth.

Paying for it isn't fulfilling the fantasy, it's simulating it... so the other person's real desire to do it for reasons other than business is crucial. If that means that they will never actually do it, well... chances are the fantasy is better than the reality anyways.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/25/2017 10:57:08 PM

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Nah, I've always been convinced that there ought to be proDommes.

As far as my ideas on increasing their population goes: find a way to increase market demand.

One of you ladies should be a pro-domme pimp and market them and take a cut.

Also offer training to pro-domme so that they are able to rock the sub male world so much that they will keep coming back. Infact training would cost male subs paying for the pro-services, so you can have your pro-domme practice on real sub male, while you get paid by the male sub for teaching those skills to a trainee domme. And the trainee domme are getting free lessons in return for being willing to have it conducted practically. And after they "graduate", you can find them clients, and get a cut, for them to do their business. Because you personally trained them, and passed them yourself. You would have alot of confidence marketing these pro-dommes, that they are up to standard. A reputation would be created. If someone wants a really good professional pro who really does a great job. Look for Ishtar! She can hook you up with some top notch pro-dommes.

Of course it should cost lower to get a trainee pro-domme than a full pledged ready one. So maybe a newbie male sub could go for a trainee pro-domme first, as both are learning.

It would be a great business plan!

Unfortunately I wouldn't know a thing about doming myself, and it seriously turns me off, so I can't go into the business. But ya know, it's the sex trade. Always alot of money to be made in that trade.

Feels like something I can imagine you doing Ishtar, if you have not already done it.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/25/2017 11:06:59 PM

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Would you believe a prostitute if she said you were the best fuck she ever had? Would you believe that her moans and screams and begging are real? What if you told her that this was what you wanted from her in advance? You could never be sure because you can never know if she's telling the truth.

I've known men that married their prostitutes they frequent. I attended the wedding of one. I think any man who is worth any weight, can tell the difference if the pro is genuinely enjoying herself or just doing what he says.

I mean, nobody is stopping a man from saying to the pro-domme, "Look I know I am paying you but I genuinely want to please you. What gives me most pleasure is pleasing a woman. Please tell me what you enjoy and I want to do all those things with you. As what I want out of this experience is to have genuinely rock your world."

I bet seldom pros get such requests and you might get the real her. It's not rocket science. There is still a real human being in there. Just treat her like one.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/25/2017 11:15:25 PM

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Haha... yes it probably makes more sense for the guy to ask what the prodomme likes and then if it sounds interesting, go for it... considering what the arrangement is supposed to be and all.

The problem is that these guys always approach it in terms of what they want first and don't even ask what she wants.

It's a subtle distinction, but definitely a relevant one.

Still, all of this 'you're never going to find someone who wants that' stuff has made me think it's probably not going to work either way.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/26/2017 5:50:38 AM

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Nice attempt to get a debate going about Pro-Dommes.

Not sure about the whole Pro-Dommes as therapy thing. People have tried to popularise sex surrogates for therapeutic purposes in the past but the problem is that society generally doesn't like the association of money and sex. And even though many Pro-Dommes do not provide "sexual services" and we often debate that here, it seems like a fine distinction to many people. However I don't think you really believe that doctors are going to be able to recommend their patients going for a bit of BDSM therapy any time soon.

It would be far healthier if society didn't have a such a taboo about perfectly straight forward contracts between people involving money and intimate or BDSM services, but let's face it there are lots of people here who slag off Pro-Dommes for no good reason.

For my part I have no problem with consensual and honest interactions between people and Pro-Dommes or prostitutes for that matter. There should certainly be nothing wrong or shameful in providing or using any such services.

If we were all more tolerant we could all get over blaming those providing services for men being dishonest with there partners and concentrate on real issues such as trafficking, violence against women (and scamming, although that is more a crime of stupidity than anything else and not in the same league as the other two).

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/26/2017 9:53:17 AM

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So far on this thread I have been accused of stealing money I raised for charity, and have been told I have raised money for a pointless charity. What a lovely friendly place.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/26/2017 10:26:26 AM

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That will cost you a donation. And I am long on the record with that aspect on here, or there, as there exists legitimate fin doms who really do offer a service, but are beseeched with time wasters. These one differ from parasites, which most are the offer scamming or fallacy on their best days.

Those who know me, or my words, know once long ago I dated a “fin dom”. Even today I neither like nor dislike her I just felt sorry for what she eventually became

Half the regulars like the swine in me, the other half do not, or not quite sure what to make of me.
I have no issue with any of them.
I must have missed when one of the regulars bad mouthed cancer charity.

Nothing you have written, or presented thusfar, will make me change my mind. Anyone want to donate me 6 cakes and I will parade around in slippers, or shall I phone a friend and ask her to do so, in less shit boots.

Perhaps you are simply one of "her" idiot minions drumming up her head medication money

That aside this place could also do with some more hot lesbians bitches looking for lesbian bints

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/26/2017 10:30:11 AM

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So far on this thread I have been accused of stealing money I raised for charity, and have been told I have raised money for a pointless charity. What a lovely friendly place.

Yeah, but weren't you the same person who complained about how mean people were here on this site over on the other site? Weird thing of me to remember, I know. Probably because I remember you being a TWD (The Walking Dead) fan.

It's really inconsequential to me whether there are more pro dommes or not. It's cool that you raised money for charity and all, but as a lifestyle person, I'm used to that happening on a semi-regular basis just through clubs and events. The more the better and all of that, so if it's legit, I'm glad.

Still, (and to show you I'm a good sport) I think this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drcTRzO2wMk would happen frequently. Enjoy this thing. It's been around for years.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/26/2017 10:41:57 AM

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That will cost you a donation. And I am long on the record with that aspect on here, or there, as there exists legitimate fin doms who really do offer a service, but are beseeched with time wasters. These one differ from parasites, which most are the offer scamming or fallacy on their best days.

Those who know me, or my words, know once long ago I dated a “fin dom”. Even today I neither like nor dislike her I just felt sorry for what she eventually became

Half the regulars like the swine in me, the other half do not, or not quite sure what to make of me.
I have no issue with any of them.
I must have missed when one of the regulars bad mouthed cancer charity.

Nothing you have written, or presented thusfar, will make me change my mind. Anyone want to donate me 6 cakes and I will parade around in slippers, or shall I phone a friend and ask her to do so, in less shit boots.

Perhaps you are simply one of "her" idiot minions drumming up her head medication money

That aside this place could also do with some more hot lesbians bitches looking for lesbian bints

Any fool, even a nincompoop like you, can see it's a direct link to the justgiving site, all money goes direct to Cancer Research UK.

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