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flipr -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/17/2006 8:50:04 PM)
i am not wishing to top from anywhere, being instructed to suck another guy, isn't that what a sub is suppose to do. i just feel it would be another way of submitting to your Domme.

michaelGA2 -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/17/2006 8:55:35 PM)
not all subs are willing to go that far for a Mistress.

ohiomaid -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/17/2006 9:02:15 PM)
under the right circumstances, with proper safeguards a sub should obey, i mean they are called subs for a reason[8\|]

michaelGA2 -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/17/2006 9:03:35 PM)
true, but a person has to at least maintain some dignity...don't they?

stef -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/17/2006 9:29:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: michaelGA2 true, but a person has to at least maintain some dignity...don't they? I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything whan I read that. ~stef

michaelGA2 -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/17/2006 9:35:16 PM)
darn it, i missed again....i gotta remember to time these things better...LOL

MsKatHouston -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/17/2006 9:36:00 PM)
Forced is almost always a term that is not the most accurate when describing these types of scenes. There is consent. If it is not someone's kink or a place someone does not want to go, then don't go there. But there are plenty who enjoy it and who will go there. Dignity intact and everything.

Philosopher -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/17/2006 9:36:01 PM)
I find the idea of making a sub do homosexual acts very hot. But I wouldn't "force" him if it was a limit. I respect a subs limit. I think it can change a person's sexuality, but only if their sexuality was bi-curious, and after being made to do sexual things with another member of the same gender, become a proper bisexual. This happened to me with one of my previous subs. He was straight, but curious about getting fucked. He wouldn't suck a cock though, but after a while and finding he loved getting fucked up the arse, he became curious about sucking cock, and found he loved that too. When we broke up (but remained friends), he got himself a boyfriend. He has since broke up with his boyfriend and got a girlfriend. He slightly prefers women, but considers himself bisexual. Also, I find some subs would never do it in real life, but are happy to pretend (like in cyber, writing tasks, phone sex, etc.).

michaelGA2 -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/17/2006 9:51:42 PM)
quote: Also, I find some subs would never do it in real life, but are happy to pretend (like in cyber, writing tasks, phone sex, etc.). i wouldn't even do it then...it's a personal preference and a major turn off

BuxomGoddess321 -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/17/2006 10:01:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: michaelGA2 allow me to rephrase the question. if someone is already open to the idea...where does the forcing come in? michael you are wise in a way to be confused about this. There are some people who do not wish to take responsibility for their own actions, decisions or mistakes. that is what the "forcing" is about sometimes. they live in fear of their own desires. People are very homophobic about their own sexuality and alot of people use what they think is the "lifestyle" to cover up their fears. I was told by a Psychiatrist that the nature of Gender Dysphoria is a confusion of ones own basic identity and things like commitment to a person or decision may not be possible until the person resolves their own issues of who and what they are, which is not for the cowardly or immature. 'Forcing' an identity, label of bi/gay, role or sex acts on that person is a way out for them because they are freed from facing their fears, issues, becoming a whole person and making independent decisions. Any repercussions become the "fault" of the Domme/Dom because they feel they didn't make the choice. The blame game. Even if they get AIDS, it will be the Dommes fault, even tho that guy's been dying to have sex with men for years. You said it would scar you for life, it can. Providing a loving, supportive and safe environment to be oneself is healthier. Adults should be accountable. There are alot who will disagree with Me but I've seen too many people be hurt by this stuff and refuse to engage in it. Others think they might be 'helping' the person, but there really are no shortcuts to becoming who you are and enabling a coward doesn't make Me feel "powerful" at all. Validating a mature adult who has made difficult choices makes Me feel powerful.

bfslaveboi4u -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/17/2006 10:02:40 PM)
hi A/all, well i was bi courious but would not suck cock on my own, but in a D/s relationship and after a good spanking ([:)]) i would be submissive enough to try plus not wanted to be disobedient and wanting to pls my Master, i did as i was told. either that or i kept getting cained! that helped to. i guess on my own the first time i felt guilty about wanting to suck cock and to do it on my own free will, so being 'forced' (more like strongly encouraged) made it easier for me to try it and not feel guilty (the sin thing the Church is so big on). but i will say seems a lot of Mistresses i have know really do get off on forced femme and seeing a male slave suck cock. guess it shows the total submission of the male slave performing a 'female' act or whatever. anyway, that's my two cents. jon boi

Lordandmaster -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/17/2006 10:06:35 PM)
I once had a switchy slave who always wanted to watch me get my dick sucked by some guy. She never got her wish. Anyway, no, I don't think this is a new phenomenon. I'm sure there have always been lots of women who have gotten off on the displaced humiliation of watching a man suck another man's dick.

michaelGA2 -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/17/2006 10:11:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BuxomGoddess321 quote: ORIGINAL: michaelGA2 allow me to rephrase the question. if someone is already open to the idea...where does the forcing come in? michael you are wise in a way to be confused about this. There are some people who do not wish to take responsibility for their own actions, decisions or mistakes. that is what the "forcing" is about sometimes. they live in fear of their own desires. People are very homophobic about their own sexuality and alot of people use what they think is the "lifestyle" to cover up their fears. I was told by a Psychiatrist that the nature of Gender Dysphoria is a confusion of ones own basic identity and things like commitment to a person or decision may not be possible until the person resolves their own issues of who and what they are, which is not for the cowardly or immature. 'Forcing' an identity, label of bi/gay, role or sex acts on that person is a way out for them because they are freed from facing their fears, issues, becoming a whole person and making independent decisions. Any repercussions become the "fault" of the Domme/Dom because they feel they didn't make the choice. The blame game. Even if they get AIDS, it will be the Dommes fault, even tho that guy's been dying to have sex with men for years. You said it would scar you for life, it can. Providing a loving, supportive and safe environment to be oneself is healthier. Adults should be accountable. There are alot who will disagree with Me but I've seen too many people be hurt by this stuff and refuse to engage in it. Others think they might be 'helping' the person, but there really are no shortcuts to becoming who you are and enabling a coward doesn't make Me feel "powerful" at all. Validating a mature adult who has made difficult choices makes Me feel powerful. now, if i were female, i would not have an issue with this where another female is concerned. i just don't wish to be close to men at all, straight, bi or gay

Philosopher -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/17/2006 10:39:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: michaelGA2 now, if i were female, i would not have an issue with this where another female is concerned. i just don't wish to be close to men at all, straight, bi or gay You say this because you are a straight male. If you were a straight female, you would probably be just as opposed to doing homosexual acts as you are as a straight male.

flipr -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/18/2006 8:55:13 PM)
i guess any sub who did bot have bisexual acts as alimit would not be oppossed if hs Domme said he had to suck a cock. i feel it would be an act of submission sucking a cock for a Domme, plus as has been said previous times one does not want to displease his Mistress

michaelGA2 -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/18/2006 9:06:31 PM)
thing is, i just do not like men, period...that fact will never change...no matter how many lives i live or what i become reincarnated as...their physical structure is unattractive, their mentality, appalling and being stereotyped by others because i am male, is insulting (i.e. typically, men liking sports, hunting, being Mr. Fixit, and the way some men treat women...etc.) changing genders is not an option especially at my age as people in general few such people as freaks of nature (no offense intended, merely an observation)

LotusSong -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/19/2006 4:58:17 AM)
How about, instead of "forced", we just use "given the opportunity" to do so?

Jasmyn -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/19/2006 5:31:10 AM)
And take all the fun out of what I do? Not a chance.

LadyEllen -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/19/2006 5:34:00 AM)
Michael - speaking from the vantage point of being a freak of nature, I understand what youre saying. You are speaking those words from the perspective of who you are - a heterosexual male of 44 years who has had 44 years to find out who you are. 44 years of a male hormonal balance, a heterosexual orientation and societal influence. You are probably in the enviable position of knowing who you are, and what you want; a privilege many struggle to achieve, and one which I myself have struggled with and still to some extent struggle with today. There is no evidence, despite the infamous Dr John Money's protestations to the contrary, that anything much could change your gender identity and sexuality, or could have changed it even if raised from birth as a female, plied with female hormones and pressured with societal influences. (Google Dr John Money to find out about the well intentioned, but disastrous study he carried out). It would seem that such things as gender identity and sexuality are hardwired into us in utero, and thereafter impossible to change. But thats not to say that we cannot discover facets of our hardwired identity and sexuality as we go through this life. Facets which we may have inwardly suppressed due to societal pressures, facets we may be aware of but are afraid to express because of suppression from outside. That someone might carry out a bisexual act, does not imply that they have developed ex nihilo, a bisexual nature, for the evidence would suggest that this is not possible. That the force applied by a dominant might induce them to perform the act, would rather suggest that the nature was there already, and only required permission from a figure in authority for it to be expressed. This can work out well for those consciously suppressing I'm sure, but perhaps not so well for those inwardly suppressing and not conciously aware of their nature. For those who dont have this nature, I'm sure they would refuse to perform such an act, unless under serious duress which in my opinion would cross the line anyway. E

michaelGA2 -> RE: forced bisexual acts (10/19/2006 5:47:00 AM)
i wouldn't perform such acts, even if my life or the lives of loved ones depended on it. i know that sounds a little harsh and way out in left field, but, as i stated before, i barely tolerate being in the same proximity of other males (i.e. work environment, restaurants, other public places). to have one touch me, in any way, is unexceptable. i even have reservations about handshakes.

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