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MySweetSubmssive -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 6:39:14 AM)

Ugh.  Do *not* look at that before breakfast.  Or maybe do if you want to prevent yourself from eating. 

(wincing)

MSS




amaidiamond -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 6:39:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

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ORIGINAL: amaidiamond

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Warning....very graphic pic of rosebudding

http://www.consumptionjunction.com/content/detail.asp?id=52487&Type=1&Page=1


That's a prolasped recum....



The more severe cases of rosebudding are just that, and it's deliberate


I dont understand.  How does one 'function' like that.  I

f its a medical thing there is probably a surgery to fix it. 


As far as I understand, if it is done slowly, you just kinda....stay that way

I dunno how bowel control or whatever is effective though, I stumbled accross a thread on b.com couple of years ago that introduced me to the idea, and it swiftly became a no way no how never




marieToo -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 6:48:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: amaidiamond

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

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ORIGINAL: amaidiamond

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Warning....very graphic pic of rosebudding

http://www.consumptionjunction.com/content/detail.asp?id=52487&Type=1&Page=1


That's a prolasped recum....



The more severe cases of rosebudding are just that, and it's deliberate


I dont understand.  How does one 'function' like that.  I

f its a medical thing there is probably a surgery to fix it. 


As far as I understand, if it is done slowly, you just kinda....stay that way

I dunno how bowel control or whatever is effective though, I stumbled accross a thread on b.com couple of years ago that introduced me to the idea, and it swiftly became a no way no how never


Thats the part thats throwing me.  I don't want to be graphic but I cant understand the rectum functioning properly under those conditions.  It looks raw and painful too.   Maybe someone will come along who has had experience in this area.  Talk about being 'ripped an new asshole'.  lmaooooo 




velvetpetal -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 6:49:06 AM)

*faints after looking at that pic
ooh my gawd.
MUCHHHH worse then what my own mind conjured up on its own.

As a former personal care aide... i can only say this... i feel sooooooo bad for the people that are going to someday take care of people that do this kinda crap. It was bad enough to have taken care of a man with spina bifida, where i could see his spine through a hole in that area... in fact it looked MUCH like the pic... but not nearly so large. But that was a DISEASE...

In all likelyhood when these people age, they are going to need help .. to be taken care of... and believe me... i'd NOT wanna be the person that needed to glove up and insert a sepository .. into THAT....




mistoferin -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 6:49:49 AM)

fast reply>>>>>>>

In regards to clit removal.....if the slave has given consent, either to be used as he wishes or specifically for this procedure....would that make it an ok thing to do?




amaidiamond -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 6:51:21 AM)

yep, thinknig about it not pretty, but each to their own, as long as they are rich enough to buy the lifetime supply of depends i guess.....maybe you can function, maybe it kinda squishes out and back in when done deliberatly, I'm not an expert so no idea!




mistoferin -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 6:53:18 AM)

As far as control...I would doubt that he has much. Raw and painful? That is just what a colon looks like. There are no or few nerve endings in the colon itself so I doubt pain would be much of an issue.




amaidiamond -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 6:57:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

fast reply>>>>>>>

In regards to clit removal.....if the slave has given consent, either to be used as he wishes or specifically for this procedure....would that make it an ok thing to do?


See I see it as another fetish, not my fetish but not *sick* or wrong per see, thats why I brought up the rosebudding example, it is extreme and it is far from everyones kink but there are people out there that enjoy it and consent to it.
The argument of sanity does come into it I guess but then would it not with any extreme body modification, It's like I said i had a chat with a woman who had chosen to have things removed, basically the works, and her head shaved, it was to further her own search for objectification so in my mind, it is about consent, assuming the slave is sane/well enough to make that decision.
Though in regards to it being ok *to do* - if you refer to do as in, the Dom doing it, no way, not ever, it would be like a Dom trying to do a sex change opp with no training, not on, however if it was done by a surgeon, propperly, sterially and safely then if it is what both want I see no wrong in it.

I don't see how it's that different to the guys that are sissyfied and eventually take the opp for their fetish, I do not mean T/S specifically now but the male subs who end up living as a female, or indeed females that go to males, though that is less common  - not because they are trapped in the wrong body but as part of their submissive urges and D/s dynamic, and yes, those changes can be permenant what with hormaons and the like.




Lashra -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 6:57:12 AM)

As safe as it is for her to remove your cock with a rusty steak knife.

~Lashra




LadyEllen -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 6:58:40 AM)

The problem mist, is that its illegal (in the UK anyway), and GPs would be obliged to report it, even given patient confidentiality, as its an offence. Same as they have to for gunshot/knife wounds, self harm/suicide risk, drug abuse etc. as far as I understand it; put it this way, when I was suicidal 5 years ago, the only person I talked to was my GP, and yet the following day the police were there to revoke my shotgun license and remove the weapon from me.

Any gyne exam could reveal what had been done - cervical smears being the most common I'd guess, and then there would be questions asked that would no doubt result in a visit from the police. The person who did it would then be in a heap of trouble, whether or not there was consent (its not legally possible to consent to an offence). The risk of this might then mean that the woman was not permitted GP and especially gyne examinations, which could result in a whole heap of other problems before the discovery was made of the circumcision, much later.

Its not like other types of mortification/modification, in that it is governed by a specific law.
E




mistoferin -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 7:00:18 AM)

Much of what we do in BDSM is just as illegal.




amaidiamond -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 7:02:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

The problem mist, is that its illegal (in the UK anyway), and GPs would be obliged to report it, even given patient confidentiality, as its an offence. Same as they have to for gunshot/knife wounds, self harm/suicide risk, drug abuse etc. as far as I understand it; put it this way, when I was suicidal 5 years ago, the only person I talked to was my GP, and yet the following day the police were there to revoke my shotgun license and remove the weapon from me.

Any gyne exam could reveal what had been done - cervical smears being the most common I'd guess, and then there would be questions asked that would no doubt result in a visit from the police. The person who did it would then be in a heap of trouble, whether or not there was consent (its not legally possible to consent to an offence). The risk of this might then mean that the woman was not permitted GP and especially gyne examinations, which could result in a whole heap of other problems before the discovery was made of the circumcision, much later.

Its not like other types of mortification/modification, in that it is governed by a specific law.
E


You raise a valid point, I think that from the legal perspective you are totally right, it is something that is completly and utterly outlawed, my issureis not really even with this particular fetish, it's with the instant outcry of urrghhh, sick,,, wrong,,,perverse etc that sprung up. I just think sometimes it is forgotten that none of us are in a position to judge anothers kink




LaTigresse -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 7:05:02 AM)

Using fast reply.

Oh lord have mercy...........the things some people think of!




LadyEllen -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 7:10:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: amaidiamond

I don't see how it's that different to the guys that are sissyfied and eventually take the opp for their fetish, I do not mean T/S specifically now but the male subs who end up living as a female, or indeed females that go to males, though that is less common  - not because they are trapped in the wrong body but as part of their submissive urges and D/s dynamic, and yes, those changes can be permenant what with hormaons and the like.


Yes. And doesnt that really help the genuine cases, when these OTT sissies then find they cannot function in the real world, and all the sexual drives that took them down the road of transition are gone? They are left socially disabled, sexually bereft and psychologically damaged, and then they are used as evidence that transsexualism/gender identity disorder does not exist, but is just a fetish.

The doctors etc who permit and enable crossdressers to go down this road, just because they have the money to pay for it, are criminally negligent. Gender transition is not something that someone should get because they want it - its serious shit, and should only be possible on grounds of necessity.

Crossdressing is fine for those that like it - nothing wrong with it. Its not second best to gender transition either - gender transition is entirely a different thing and I wish we could get to a stage where people understood that.

E




LadyEllen -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 7:12:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Much of what we do in BDSM is just as illegal.


Absolutely. The issue with this though, is that it is governed by a specific law against it, and it is not something that can be kept private unless medical examinations are never again to be undertaken.

E




SusanofO -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 7:17:38 AM)

LaTigresse: What do you think about this "colon craze"? I say: It's not enough that we females have to worry about things like: Weight control and skin-care? Now we should be concerned about maybe having a "pretty colon", too? Christawmighty! I have enough to do just keeping up with my aerobics and worrying about the outside of my body (but I do take a daily multi-vitamin, and see my doctor for mammograms and other check-ups).

Where will it end? (no pun intended).

-Susan




mistoferin -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 7:18:53 AM)

I would have to disagree. There are lots of specific laws regarding what we do that could leave most any Dominant facing charges. I remember a few years back there was a case (Florida if I remember right) where a woman went in for her yearly exam and her doctor noticed stitch marks on her lips. She explained to the doc it was consentual and that she and her husband enjoyed play piercing and that he had stitched her vagina shut. That man was prosecuted for it.

The doctors in this country are also obligated to report signs of abuse. If you go in with black eyes, split lips or other bruises...cigarette burns, cuttings, or any of a number of other things that people in this lifestyle routinely engage in, most likely there would be some sort of police involvement brought in.




amaidiamond -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 7:19:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

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ORIGINAL: amaidiamond

I don't see how it's that different to the guys that are sissyfied and eventually take the opp for their fetish, I do not mean T/S specifically now but the male subs who end up living as a female, or indeed females that go to males, though that is less common  - not because they are trapped in the wrong body but as part of their submissive urges and D/s dynamic, and yes, those changes can be permenant what with hormaons and the like.


Yes. And doesnt that really help the genuine cases, when these OTT sissies then find they cannot function in the real world, and all the sexual drives that took them down the road of transition are gone? They are left socially disabled, sexually bereft and psychologically damaged, and then they are used as evidence that transsexualism/gender identity disorder does not exist, but is just a fetish.

The doctors etc who permit and enable crossdressers to go down this road, just because they have the money to pay for it, are criminally negligent. Gender transition is not something that someone should get because they want it - its serious shit, and should only be possible on grounds of necessity.

Crossdressing is fine for those that like it - nothing wrong with it. Its not second best to gender transition either - gender transition is entirely a different thing and I wish we could get to a stage where people understood that.

E


I did not say it was right, however there are people who litterally make the transition purely for someone else, as part of submission, it's not something I would or have done but at the same time I understand that there are people that do that, I know there are marked and wide differences between a transgengered person and a transvestite, I have freinds of both however that is not the point I am trying to raise, my point is that I see too much of the instant...ohhh thats sick reaction because the particular topic is one not found to peoples tastes, Everything is sick to someone, the fact my Dom beats me till i'm screaming and crying is light play to some and abhorant and distasteful to others.

I don't doubt that the op is no more than a HNG wanting to get his rocks off, however in the slim chance that it was a genuine question instantly telling him how sick and wrong he is doesnt mean he's going to change his mind about doing it, it just means he's not going to bother asking if it's safe.




MissyRane -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 7:19:11 AM)

am i the only one feeling sick after clicking those links.provided within this topic *throws up*




amaidiamond -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 7:20:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

I would have to disagree. There are lots of specific laws regarding what we do that could leave most any Dominant facing charges. I remember a few years back there was a case (Florida if I remember right) where a woman went in for her yearly exam and her doctor noticed stitch marks on her lips. She explained to the doc it was consentual and that she and her husband enjoyed play piercing and that he had stitched her vagina shut. That man was prosecuted for it.

The doctors in this country are also obligated to report signs of abuse. If you go in with black eyes, split lips or other bruises...cigarette burns, cuttings, or any of a number of other things that people in this lifestyle routinely engage in, most likely there would be some sort of police involvement brought in.


I can second that, I remember once being absolutly terrified at having to go for an exam in case any of the bruises on my ass and thighs were noticed!




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