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Squeakers -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 10:03:39 AM)

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they use a razor sharper knife and cut how and where they want


    I have to respond to this quote simply because I recently attended a presentation on female mutilation.   It probably would be better if a razor sharp knife were used however in some tribes in Africa they use whatever they can find handy including sharp rocks or pieces of tin.   The infection rate and problems that follow thereafter are quite high---it's not even uncommon to have it end in death. 
   




mistoferin -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 10:09:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Squeakers

quote:

they use a razor sharper knife and cut how and where they want


   I have to respond to this quote simply because I recently attended a presentation on female mutilation.   It probably would be better if a razor sharp knife were used however in some tribes in Africa they use whatever they can find handy including sharp rocks or pieces of tin.   The infection rate and problems that follow thereafter are quite high---it's not even uncommon to have it end in death. 
  


ummmm....that is not my quote.......




Petruchio -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 10:10:05 AM)

Hmm… I vote we bifurcate the web site into www.collarme.com and fuckingsick.collarme.com





Petruchio -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 10:14:16 AM)

Did anyone notice the OP is a 31 year old by male who's seeking an older gay man?

Perhaps he doesn't have much use for clits.




FelinePersuasion -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 10:33:57 AM)

The clit removal part aside, it's not sick nor is it a lack of concern for your slave if you do orgasm denial all the time.
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ORIGINAL: badlilthang

why is she not allowed orgasms....do You just enjoy the sick control - and do You have absolutely no love for Your slave at all and her wellbeing???



Sick....





Bearlee -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 10:42:57 AM)

For information on Female Circumcision, go to Google, click 'images' and type in "Female Circumcision"...   It is amazing the 'rites' we do to one another, including the ritual of female genital mutilation.  I wonder what the anti-male-circumcision activists think of it all...  

It seems most find it something that only happens in patriarchal societies...as a way of 'controling the women'...huh?  Anyway...in the places where it's practiced there are folks who have endured it who are both for and against the practice.  Perhaps it just depends on the society in which one lives?

I dunno...





amaidiamond -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 10:44:47 AM)

I'd agree there, If it made my Dom happy for me to not orgasm, then so be it, for me it is all about making him happy.
People ask me what my most enjoyable thing is and seem surprised when that is the answer, but to be honest if i am washing his clothes or being in sexual service to him or being his painslut, whatever it is I am doing it is the fact that it is making him happy that i enjoy. I might not like the activity, orgasm restriction for example but I can learn to love it non the less because it pleases him to have me that way.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 10:47:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: amaidiamond
orgasm restriction for example but I can learn to love it non the less because it pleases him to have me that way.

I have no need or desire to love the thing itself just because he loves it.  In fact, as a sadist, he enjoyed it more knowing I didn't want it and would really hate it.

I simply have to accept the authority of him to do it.  I am fulfilled by that.




amaidiamond -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 11:11:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: amaidiamond
orgasm restriction for example but I can learn to love it non the less because it pleases him to have me that way.

I have no need or desire to love the thing itself just because he loves it.  In fact, as a sadist, he enjoyed it more knowing I didn't want it and would really hate it.

I simply have to accept the authority of him to do it.  I am fulfilled by that.


That makes a lot of sense, you always have a clarity in your posts that I lack.
I will try and clarify because my previous post didn't really say what I intended it to... I don't mean learn to love the actual thing, take orgasm restriction for example,  I mean that whilst the act itself might not be a thing I enjoy, I learn to love the..hmm... results of it? So whilst I might not like orgasm denial as a practice, I love being denied, because to deny me makes him happy.

I think that made a little more sense..




FelinePersuasion -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 11:43:05 AM)

I really think she should of just refused to elaborate, said none of your buisness, or kept her mouth shut. I don't see why people volunteer information like that. I mean yeah a doctor might ask but do you really have to  answer. What are they going to do if you say It was consentual and beyond that I refuse to talk about it.
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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

. She explained to the doc it was consentual and that she and her husband enjoyed play piercing and that he had stitched her vagina shut. That man was prosecuted for it.





Petruchio -> clitoridectomy (12/6/2006 11:43:59 AM)

My thoughts are still forming on the subject, but it seems to me a clitoridectomy is more about making a poser dom feel manly than anything else.

Also, if we're painfully honest, there's a high degree of relationship turnover in bdsm. A bored dom may want to remove the clit now and a few months later, the slave finds herself on the street looking for a new master, and perhaps find they are disgusted she has been disfigured.

This smells more to me like misogyny than bdsm.

I could be wrong. I was once, back in 1987.




mistoferin -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 11:49:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

I really think she should of just refused to elaborate, said none of your buisness, or kept her mouth shut. I don't see why people volunteer information like that. I mean yeah a doctor might ask but do you really have to  answer. What are they going to do if you say It was consentual and beyond that I refuse to talk about it.
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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

. She explained to the doc it was consentual and that she and her husband enjoyed play piercing and that he had stitched her vagina shut. That man was prosecuted for it.




Not speaking openly with your doctor will raise their levels of suspicion even more when confronted by evidence of injury. She actually stood a better chance of him not involving law enforcement by explaining. A woman saying "it's none of your business" or "I don't want to talk about it" when asked to explain injuries that appear to be inflicted sets off alarm bells in a health practitioner.




daddysprop247 -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 11:59:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

I really think she should of just refused to elaborate, said none of your buisness, or kept her mouth shut. I don't see why people volunteer information like that. I mean yeah a doctor might ask but do you really have to  answer. What are they going to do if you say It was consentual and beyond that I refuse to talk about it.
quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

. She explained to the doc it was consentual and that she and her husband enjoyed play piercing and that he had stitched her vagina shut. That man was prosecuted for it.




all she had to say was that it was self-inflicted. sure, it probably would have earned her 72 hrs of "observation" in a hospital, but no significant harm would be done and most importantly her Master would have been protected. we have been there, done that as far as dealing with medical authorities and WIITWD.




mistoferin -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 12:08:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247
all she had to say was that it was self-inflicted. sure, it probably would have earned her 72 hrs of "observation" in a hospital, but no significant harm would be done and most importantly her Master would have been protected. we have been there, done that as far as dealing with medical authorities and WIITWD.


And then of course she would be labelled forever in her medical records as a person with mental issues.

Sorry....but I don't think that lying is the answer.




daddysprop247 -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 12:18:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

quote:

ORIGINAL: daddysprop247
all she had to say was that it was self-inflicted. sure, it probably would have earned her 72 hrs of "observation" in a hospital, but no significant harm would be done and most importantly her Master would have been protected. we have been there, done that as far as dealing with medical authorities and WIITWD.


And then of course she would be labelled forever in her medical records as a person with mental issues.

Sorry....but I don't think that lying is the answer.


for you, maybe lying wouldn't be the answer. maybe you'd prefer to be completely honest and have your Master in prison. but for some of us lying (and knowing just what sort of lies to tell) is precisely the right thing to do, especially when dealing with a legal system that is already against us (D/s and bdsm lifestylers).




mistoferin -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 12:34:32 PM)

Well, to each their own I guess. I just really don't see how dishonesty is going to further the acceptance or understanding of us by the medical, legal or vanilla world. We are all adults and understand the risks we take within this lifestyle....or at least we should. Those risks sometimes come with consequences attached that we may need to assume the responsibility for. If those risks or consequences are beyond what I am willing to personally accept...then I simply don't partake.




starshineowned -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 12:37:21 PM)

Greetings..~smiles~

While agree's that lying about such things only tends to lead to more complicated problems..there are different ways of telling the truth without such description. She could of easily said with a bubbly smile on her face..cool isn't it? Just had it done (whenever it happened). It's the latest thing for me in body art/modification.

Lots of things considered off the wall out there for most and granted alot of things that are more mainstream are still considered illegal..but what makes this particular issue alittle different is the fact that it falls under medical practices/surgical...so unless he is a licensed physician he's not just falling under the abuse scrutiny but also practicing medicine without a license. If he is a physician ..than he's up for un-ethical practices if this particular proceedure is indeed illegal where he comes from.

Well Wishes

starshine
Happy slave of Master Delvin




PONYSEEKER -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 2:10:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: boycott2006

My girlfriend is 24/7 slave to me. We play many heavy stuff from fisting , torture etc. She can only orgasm by playing with her clitoris (not through vaginal or anal sex). She wears chastity belst and didnt have an orgasm for a year. now I want to remove her clit so she can't have any more orgasms. Is it safe to remove the clit by myself??


Thats just so damn wrong!




acctonthelook -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 2:52:24 PM)

Someone previously noted here that the OP is a bi male - Real Slick to get everyone going...NO WAY would any Master have my submission to do such a thing to me...You want to talk about a Hard Limit...this is one!  LOL 

Someone previously mentions - prosecution, Yes I'd prosecute!!! For sure!!!  Consentual...NO WAY, NO HOW, NEVER!!! LOL




mistoferin -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 2:56:43 PM)

fast reply.......

I've seen quite a good number of threads about males who have castration fantasies. Those don't really seem to raise too many eyebrows though. Wonder why this is different?




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