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amaidiamond -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 7:25:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MissyRane

am i the only one feeling sick after clicking those links.provided within this topic *throws up*


Ah thats another thing entirely, and nope you are not.. I have to admit of all the fetishes that is one of the ones that makes my stomach turn..




LadyEllen -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 7:27:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: amaidiamond

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

I would have to disagree. There are lots of specific laws regarding what we do that could leave most any Dominant facing charges. I remember a few years back there was a case (Florida if I remember right) where a woman went in for her yearly exam and her doctor noticed stitch marks on her lips. She explained to the doc it was consentual and that she and her husband enjoyed play piercing and that he had stitched her vagina shut. That man was prosecuted for it.

The doctors in this country are also obligated to report signs of abuse. If you go in with black eyes, split lips or other bruises...cigarette burns, cuttings, or any of a number of other things that people in this lifestyle routinely engage in, most likely there would be some sort of police involvement brought in.


I can second that, I remember once being absolutly terrified at having to go for an exam in case any of the bruises on my ass and thighs were noticed!


True enough - I almost got into trouble once when a guy I know was arrested and given a medical exam, and they found the stripe on his arse from the one hard wallop I'd given him (over a week earlier! He asked for it!). He refused to talk though, so I got away with it.

I guess though, it should also be possible with a lot of the stuff that is done, to schedule GP appointments and play in such a way that little or no evidence is there to be seen, having healed? This cant be done though, if the results of whats done are permanent.

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marieToo -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 7:34:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

fast reply>>>>>>>

In regards to clit removal.....if the slave has given consent, either to be used as he wishes or specifically for this procedure....would that make it an ok thing to do?


In theory, Id have to say yes, because how can I say this isn't someone's idea of "body modification".

But the fuck of the "clitectomey" is

A. Its not reversible

I mean...someone would have to be damn sure they want this.

My thought would move beyond that into the question of "why" someone would opt to remove a functional body part.




mistoferin -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 7:34:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen
I guess though, it should also be possible with a lot of the stuff that is done, to schedule GP appointments and play in such a way that little or no evidence is there to be seen, having healed? This cant be done though, if the results of whats done are permanent.


Well of course there are for some things. But we can never take into account the needed trip to an emergency room for something that may be totally unrelated but would also be revealing. There are also many types of play that people engage in that do leave permanent marks and those marks would come under scrutiny in some situations.

For many of us what the OP has suggested is far beyond our extreme limits. But if he had said that his slave is ok with it and has given her consent, I have to wonder if that would have changed the responses people here gave him.




akisha -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 7:45:05 AM)

FR
In regards to rosebudding, umm eww and very hard limit!!! and yes there is surgery that can fit it. It's very similar to the surgery for a prolapsed bladder.

I know the uterus can fall down through the vagina too, I wonder if anyone would find that attractive or as a kink? Somehow it wouldn't really suprise me I guess [8|]





LadyEllen -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 7:45:40 AM)

It wouldnt have changed my view mist, I'm afraid.

People can flame me all they like over it, but personally I just dont think its right to go about doing permanent damage.

OK we can say there was consent - but I have to ask whether its informed consent (ie the person is aware of the consequences and not thinking with their sex drive), and I also have to question the psychological state of the person who agrees to have bits lopped off themself for no good medical reason.

There is a condition called dysmorphia, which presents as psychological discomfort with a body part; treatments include therapy but in some cases the only cure has been to remove the "offending" part by surgery. Thats a whole different thing to a sane and informed consent IMO, and takes place in a medical/psychiatric/surgical context far different to some nutter with a razor blade on a boring Sunday afternoon.

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nighthawk3569 -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 7:48:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: boycott2006

My girlfriend is 24/7 slave to me. We play many heavy stuff from fisting , torture etc. She can only orgasm by playing with her clitoris (not through vaginal or anal sex). She wears chastity belst and didnt have an orgasm for a year. now I want to remove her clit so she can't have any more orgasms. Is it safe to remove the clit by myself??


      Let her cut your nuts out, first...if you like the results(after a year or so)then proceed.
 
                                                                                  'hawk




mistoferin -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 7:55:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen
OK we can say there was consent - but I have to ask whether its informed consent (ie the person is aware of the consequences and not thinking with their sex drive), and I also have to question the psychological state of the person who agrees to have bits lopped off themself for no good medical reason.


Just an example....but slave Susie gives consent to her Master when they agree to be involved in a committed relationship together. She agrees to turn over all decisions and power to her new Master, to allow him to do whatever he wishes to her and use her as he sees fit. One day he comes home and says that tonight he is going to remove her clitoris.

Granted, most Master's would never go down this road. But I see so many times on this board and in real life BDSM circles, slaves who adamantly state that they gave consent to all things when they committed to be his slave. They are serious in that commitment and I have to respect that. I just have to wonder though if something like this would have been a consideration when they were making their decision, and if it wasn't, would their view of that blanket consent change.




LadyEllen -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 8:09:58 AM)

Hi Mist

I personally draw the line at permanent damage, as I said before. I just dont see the point in damaging what should be the most prized "possession" you have.

In the scenario you describe, I guess it would make Susie not truly owned if she were able to refuse whatever it was - but then as you say, its not practical to state every instance that Susie might refuse, prior to her consent to slavery. Ultimately though, Susie is there by choice and it would be foolish master indeed who didnt respect that.

E




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 8:11:10 AM)

Not having read all 5 pages of this yet...

My ex owner wanted to remove my clitoris at some point.  He was completely serious about it.

I was completely serious in accepting of that possibility and reality.

Doing it yourself is ridiculous- you're already asking the wrong questions about tihs.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 8:13:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin
As far as control...I would doubt that he has much. Raw and painful? That is just what a colon looks like. There are no or few nerve endings in the colon itself so I doubt pain would be much of an issue.

I'd be more worried about exposure to infection and functionality in life.




Lordandmaster -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 8:43:58 AM)

Actually, you could go to jail for that.

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ORIGINAL: boycott2006

Is it safe to remove the clit by myself??




daddysprop247 -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 8:55:12 AM)

well i could be wrong but based on the ridiculous question asked and the absence of the OP, that he/she/it was just online playing some sort of game. however the topic of FGM itself (or female circumcision) is one that's always been fascinating to me and one of these days i'd intended to start a thread on it here. believe it or not, this IS something that some in the D/s world have engaged in, everything from simply removing the clitoris to removing the surrounding tissue and inner labia as well. the purposes vary from couple to couple, but for myself i'd see it as a beautiful form of sacrifice and devotion to my Master. it would not bother me in the least.




mnottertail -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 8:56:20 AM)

perhaps the OP is removing its own clitoris at this point.




LotusSong -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 8:57:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: amaidiamond

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Warning....very graphic pic of rosebudding

http://www.consumptionjunction.com/content/detail.asp?id=52487&Type=1&Page=1


That's a prolasped recum....



The more severe cases of rosebudding are just that, and it's deliberate


It's not a excised clitorus.. that's why I posted that. Just in case we missd a couple anatomy classes  :)




tightlockup -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 9:37:03 AM)

Didn't some guy in Atlanta get jail time for doing this to his daughter recently?




damia -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 9:37:45 AM)

Sick question from a moron looking for jerkoff material. That's the definition of a troll, isn't it?




mistoferin -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 9:41:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: damia

Sick question from a moron looking for jerkoff material. That's the definition of a troll, isn't it?


We don't know the guy at all or what his motivations are. It may well be a serious question asking for solid advice.




PONYSEEKER -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 9:58:32 AM)

Cool avatar Missyrane.




amaidiamond -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/6/2006 10:01:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Not having read all 5 pages of this yet...

My ex owner wanted to remove my clitoris at some point.  He was completely serious about it.

I was completely serious in accepting of that possibility and reality.

Doing it yourself is ridiculous- you're already asking the wrong questions about tihs.



Thank you LA.

As i said in my first post on this subject, it is not someone that I would *want*, not my fetish, however if I had been with someone a long time, over 30 years at least and they wished that done, it would not be out of the question




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