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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/13/2005 7:33:57 AM

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Great ideas! Thank you LA!

we don't do extreme public play, such as the now infamous peeing in a restaurant *grins*...

Master does however, enjoy public humiliation to a degree and as far as referring to Him in public it is always "Sir", in front of strangers, family, and friends...in private it is Master....i sometimes feel uncomfortable calling Him Sir in front of family tho...but i am learning to over come that.

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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/13/2005 7:37:46 AM

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HA one idea I love is being told to sit in the corner and shout names about yourself

Interestingly enough, being put in cages is often degrading because, even if YOU know you aren't there for punishment, everyone else assumes so and feels bad or interacts with you. It puts you in a fairly vulnerable place.

How about having to wear really ill-fitting or out of place clothes at a fetish event?

How about being told to wait at the door for over an hour when you go to a party?

I'm still thinking...

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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/13/2005 11:41:23 AM

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Great ideas! Thank you LA!

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Master does however, enjoy public humiliation to a degree and as far as referring to Him in public it is always "Sir", in front of strangers, family, and friends...in private it is Master....i sometimes feel uncomfortable calling Him Sir in front of family tho...but i am learning to over come that.

It's funny how you are probably more aware of this then the rest. Sometimes they just look at it as a cute little inside joke. For example, my boy calls me "Mlle" (french for Miss) all the time. I never asked him to call me that in public, he just does. When a friend of his asked him (in French) "why do you call her Miss?" his answer was (in French) "because she is not a Sir" and he winked. Everyone laughed and for the rest of the evening, all his friends were calling me Mlle. It was quite cute.

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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/13/2005 11:42:00 AM

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I'm still thinking...

Are you sometimes your own worst enemy Emerald? <weg>

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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/13/2005 4:18:47 PM

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what gets me is when Master will put his hand up my skirts, or have me in the hands behind head postition and play with my boobs, all while driving down the road in the car. Now I doubt anyone else notices, since they should be driving their own vehicles but it makes me feel exposed and will get me to turn very red in a quick hurry.

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RE: Degradation 101 - 5/13/2005 5:03:13 PM

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You have no idea :) That's why I call humiliation a burning, very much a love/hate.

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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/16/2006 10:14:03 PM

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I make him wear pink panties or paint his toenails candy pink or fire engine red, all this under his business suit. I write "whore boy" on his chest with my lipstick or nail polish. I turn him into my footstool while I read or watch a film I make him call my cat Sir (that one is just plain funny to me) and he better not laugh! I make him pretend he is any animal I chose and he has to make the exact sounds and gestures I do puppy training play, eating out of a dog bowl, peeing on a newspaper (which I do in the tub that he has to scrub afterwards for sanitary reasons) I take him to a gay bar and make him flirt with boys, sometimes get down to his skivvies while dancing... and this is usually quite consensual from the perspective of the other men there and particularly fun when my boy is straight

Tantalizing ideas, LA. Many thanks!

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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/17/2006 12:18:46 AM

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HA one idea I love is being told to sit in the corner and shout names about yourself

Interestingly enough, being put in cages is often degrading because, even if YOU know you aren't there for punishment, everyone else assumes so and feels bad or interacts with you. It puts you in a fairly vulnerable place.

How about having to wear really ill-fitting or out of place clothes at a fetish event?

How about being told to wait at the door for over an hour when you go to a party?

I'm still thinking...

OMg, you are evil ES / LA. gawd. <shivers>

ill fitting clothes.. damn.

That's so key though! Making it look as if it's the sub or slaves OWN doofiness that did it. the other stuff is so obviously "He made me do it" stuff that all humiliation would be lost.
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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/17/2006 8:22:05 AM

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Even is you can do this unseen, who's gonna clean it up? You or her? how will you get the cleaning supplies, etc., into the area, and still not involve others?

Just some thoughts..

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stand on a street corner have Master make you pee your panties..........Do it in a restaraunt..................

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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/17/2006 2:05:53 PM

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Anything pis related is degrading. Peeing yourself while dressed, naked, rolling on your back and peeing on yourself should do it. The ultimate degrading act is for you be your masters pis slave. Have your master invite as many of his male friends, females would also be okay, have him place you in the shower or bathtub, wearing panties only, a huge dildo ups your ass and have your master and his friends use you as their toilet, pissing on you all afternoon. The tub must be plugged so you can soak in the pis all day...Have them finish the day by having all jerk their load on to you with your master feeding you all the cum with a spoon or so....Anal toungue darts also...offer to eat you masters ass and his friends assholes until they cum. Is that degrading enough?

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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/17/2006 2:40:30 PM

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Our pet is a hardcore goth in the heart of essex. She hates chavs with avengance.
There're these cute little burberry collars in wilkinsons. I think she's going to be wearing one of those pretty soon.

J&c

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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/17/2006 3:16:39 PM

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Next time you are at a party, put ten boxes on your chest with "Ask me" on top. Then go around and flirt wildly and let people know you need at least 10 people to do something they consider very degrading to you.

Go whore yourself out for free- perhaps bring back the condoms.

Write yucky words and insults all over your body and walk around like that.

Shave your head.

Diapers tend to be really degrading.

Degrading puts me in a deeply humbling position towards the Owner, it forces me to look at my own ego, to examine who I am and what I really value about myself.

What would really be humiliating..is if she did this.. and was ignored.

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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/17/2006 4:39:23 PM

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Degradation is making her call herself "this cunt" instead of "I," even in front of others. Other people might not like that, but fuck them--she's not their slave.

Sir this also falls under the non consentual thing... many people dont like that word dont like hearing it and just as speaking nasty in other ways can be insulting people will find that insulting too... Its sad if you dont care about upsetting other people. Its one thing to do something that people dont like that only effects you and not care what they think (like spanking and such) in places that are apropraite but something like that will offend and why do that?? I know my mom gets very insulted by that word and there for i was raised to be as well she wont say it or even write it and neather will I and she gets very upset hearing it or reading it at all while Im desensatised a bit to seeing and hearing it due to beeing into this lifestyle I still cant stand seeing it written and it makes me cringe to hear it spoken. And I will never use it I cant even get the word to come out of my mouth. So it isnt really apropreate to have a slave to, you should have some common curtasy.for people that really dont like that kinda talk.

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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/17/2006 4:40:47 PM

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Hmm.. Humiliation, and degregation... Yup... I'm home hehe.

Diapers, yes can be very degrading. And it doesn't matter if you can see them, or not. It doesn't matter if you're the only person who knows. It doesn't matter if you use them, and what you use them for. Hehe, it can also add to it if some one is constantly reminding you of your ah er condition. (for those extreamests when it comes to play around 'nillas this works because none of them know you, or your "so," is wearing.)

Having adult things taken from you. Such as being scolded for swearing, or told to "run off and play like a nice little subbie."

Time outs. Works very well with crowds. Specially if your dominant is standing three feet from you constantly awnsering why you are there, or talking about you in the third person.

Actually being made to dress, act a certain way can be degrading no matter what...

As for the whole other argument over what is right to do what in public and what isn't...

Extreamests don't get anywhere! There's always a fine line... Hell, you'll see me in the store with my buddies joking around, singing the "fuck, fuck, fuck a duck song." But you won't see me in nothing but a diaper in the middle of a toystore, or park... See the fine line? I think some are just trying to argue just for the hell of it.

And yes, if made to I would pee my pants on the corner of the street. Or maybe in a resturant if it wasn't that noticable.

I also wear my 'nilla is for ice cream shirt around. And am geting a shirt that says, "too cute to dominate."

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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/17/2006 5:16:41 PM

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I agree with boundfem on this one. Well said.

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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/17/2006 5:56:54 PM

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What one finds hmiliating or degrading is often about context and about your past.

For someone who values thier inteligence, force them to adopt mannerisms and behaviours they associate with someone of lesser inteligence, many people view themselves as "classy" and you can push this by forcing a change of attire. Take the lady who is accustomed to tailored business suits and simlar attire, then put her in a leopard prind spandex miniskirt ant too tighte tube top, and a pair of all too tacky heels. Accessorize apporpriately. Add a teased blonde hairdo or wig. You get the picture, then go shopping.

Make the sub write out lines like a ill behaved school child, but pick a phrase that strikes to their self image. Make them write it out a hundred times or so, best penmanship and all. "All I am is a dumb little cunt" might work with some, again the phrase is personal. You can add to the humiliation by critiquing the penmanship, and if found unacceptable, make her repeat it.

As to the subtopic of public activities, my take on that is that when you go out in public you are consenting to view anythying that isn;t illegal in your community, So if you want to take your sub out on a leash, and that's OK with the two of you, I think it;s OK. Hell I have seen it often enough with the goth/punk community wandering about town. If you preffer use one of those little wrist leashes used for children, that can in it's own way be even more humblimg.

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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/17/2006 6:47:22 PM

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How about putting on depends, and then making the sub pee in the pants in public?

Maybe this is only my experience, but people still know. I work in a drug store so people come in wearing Depends quite often. You still notice and it still smells. Maybe this is only the case with these people, but it is something to consider

I am curious siamsa, how that has any relevance whatsoever... How is the average person to distinguish between the unfortunate young woman with a bladder problem, and the naughty sub undergoing humiliation??

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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/17/2006 6:50:40 PM

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Someone mentioned having him paint his toenails pink...

Have him book an appointment at a busy nail salon for a professional pedicure complete with toes painted bright pink.

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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/17/2006 9:01:06 PM

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if you intend to degrade or humiliate someone verbally make sure that with a change of tone and inflection it can be complimentary or neutral rather than simply degrading.

While I am not sold on that approach, I agree with the sentiment behind it; it is important to think of emotional safety for degradation as it is to think of physical safety in physical play.

Midori does an intelligent, engaging seminar about humiliation. Her take is that each person has traits that she likens to walls in a house. Some walls are load bearing with respect to a sense of self worth while some are not. She recommends determining which traits are not load bearing and playing with those traits while avoiding and perhaps even reinforcing load-bearing traits.

I usually enjoy suggesting ideas for mental play but will save such participation for another time.

Cheers,

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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/18/2006 9:55:14 AM

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Hello cello. Is that your violin? Havent seen you in a while stranger hope things are going well for you.

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