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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/18/2006 11:03:20 AM   
maudite


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ORIGINAL: GregoryMK

What one finds hmiliating or degrading is often about context and about your past.



Thank you for saying this. Making someone piss themselves in public is humiliating, sure, but it lacks subtlety. It doesn't show any understanding on the dom's part of who the sub is and what makes him/her tick. Writing lines would work very well on me. (Just thinking about it gives me a little thrill.)  One reason I love gags so very much is that so much of who I am is based on my communication skills. I love to talk. I write for a living. I used to sing for a living. To have those things taken away is a profound experience, and once that happens the opportunities for humiliation are endless -- and need not take place in public. (Public play is something I'll only do if no one but my dom and I -- and perhaps a chosen accomplice or two -- know is happening.)

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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

Midori does an intelligent, engaging seminar about humiliation. Her take is that each person has traits that she likens to walls in a house. Some walls are load bearing with respect to a sense of self worth while some are not. She recommends determining which traits are not load bearing and playing with those traits while avoiding and perhaps even reinforcing load-bearing traits.



This is also an excellent point, although I'm not sure I agree with the way it's expressed. I'd say my communication skills are a load-bearing trait for me, but I'm comfortable playing with that. On the other hand, I have a very low self-image when it comes to my physical appearance and my social skills -- and if a dom used those things as a target for humiliation, it would be emotionally devastating (and I'd probably safeword and walk out on the spot). 

So what I'd say is that you should stick to areas in which your sub normally is in control; the whole point of domination is to take away control, right? To me, the tasty part of being gagged and then mocked about it is that my dom has taken away control that I ordinarily have a firm grip on. Worse yet, I've allowed him to do it. What does that say about me? So it's humiliating in-scene, but once it's over I get that control back.

Taking shots at areas in which your sub doesn't feel in control anyway -- like a poor opinion of their appearance -- gains you little as a dom. You can't take away control that the sub didn't have in the first place, and you could end up doing serious harm.

Isn't this what the power exchange is all about?

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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/18/2006 11:57:51 AM   
PONYSEEKER


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I was thinking geez why dosnt he just take you to the park for a game of frisby or catch but that wouldnt be by yourself.... perhaps if you brought the ball or frisby back to the wrong person....

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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/18/2006 12:04:48 PM   
Master2controlU


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Be given a command to do something odd.

Like "Bark"

or "Squat"

Can be done most places and if in a general public area people will wonder if they really saw/heard what they thought they did, you will know they did. The Humiliating part is being commanded and responding instantly.

Another humiliating thing to have to do is inspect the toliet of a public place, kneel and stick your head in to the bowl so your nose is just above the water.

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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/18/2006 12:10:55 PM   
Mavis


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quote:

ORIGINAL: maudite

quote:

ORIGINAL: undergroundsea

Midori ..." Some walls are load bearing with respect to a sense of self worth while some are not." She recommends determining which traits are not load bearing and playing with those traits while avoiding and perhaps even reinforcing load-bearing traits.



I'd say my communication skills are a load-bearing trait for me, but I'm comfortable playing with that. On the other hand, I have a very low self-image when it comes to my physical appearance and my social skills -- and if a dom used those things as a target for humiliation, it would be emotionally devastating (and I'd probably safeword and walk out on the spot). 



i would then say appearance and social skills are indeed your "load bearing" traits, because causing those to tumble would indeed take down your house.   You have enough innate confidence on your communication skills that they can be dinked with while leaving your sense of self un-damaged.

i hope i wasn't offensive in that comment, i'm just meaning i understand what you meant to be places off limits to be dinked with. 
:)

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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/18/2006 12:56:34 PM   
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This will work with only a female submissive.

Go to a public place that is busy, such as a restaurant or bar.  When your submissive has to use the restroom, instruct her to use the Men's room.  She is to urinate with the stall door open so that anyone who is in there can watch.  Then she is to return to your table and remain there, knowing that the men who saw her are returning to their tables and telling their companions about her.  It is particularly humiliating if she sees them looking/pointing at her while discussing what she did.

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RE: Degradation 101 - 9/18/2006 12:58:59 PM   
ElektraUkM


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SirMasterTeacher

This will work with only a female submissive.

Go to a public place that is busy, such as a restaurant or bar.  When your submissive has to use the restroom, instruct her to use the Men's room.  She is to urinate with the stall door open so that anyone who is in there can watch.  Then she is to return to your table and remain there, knowing that the men who saw her are returning to their tables and telling their companions about her.  It is particularly humiliating if she sees them looking/pointing at her while discussing what she did.



What if they think you're a sad case because you're dating a woman who can't read the 'gents' and 'ladies' sign?

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RE: Degradation 101 - 12/11/2007 11:24:56 AM   
Gwynsbitchboi


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My Domme has had me pee my pants in public and in a diaper many times.  It is VERY degrading to be in a store, see the bathroom in sight, and yet still have to stand there and just go in your pants, or in a diaper.  She once made me wear a diaper all day and warned me that if i didn't wet it while we were out that she'd pee in it for me.  As she's done this before I knew to just take it like a bitch and wet myself.  If you want to hear about the other times she's used pee to humiliaite me, just drop me a line... :)

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RE: Degradation 101 - 12/11/2007 11:29:35 AM   
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Beg to do something you really dislike doing. Something that makes you tremble and cringe. Then shut up  and go for it when he says yes.

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