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War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 12:13:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		       I came across this article while doing some research at work and just wanted to put it on the table (and in the archives) here. 

Mr. Billah advises his jihadist readers to "register yourself using a purely American name" and to "invent stories about American soldiers you have personally known (as classmates... or members in a club who played baseball and tennis with you) who were drafted to Iraq and then committed suicide while in service by hanging or shooting themselves." The writing should, he says, provoke "frustration and anger towards their government, which will ... render them hostile to Bush ... and his Republican Party, and make them feel they must vote to bring the troops back from Iraq as soon as possible."


     The section above is from the end of this article
http://www.nysun.com/article/54077?page_no=1

     I can imagine a few people going completely ballistic at this one, but I have to get back to work.  Have fun.

    

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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 12:20:05 PM   
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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 1:03:08 PM   
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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 2:36:31 PM   
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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 3:23:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

      I came across this article while doing some research at work and just wanted to put it on the table (and in the archives) here. 

Mr. Billah advises his jihadist readers to "register yourself using a purely American name" and to "invent stories about American soldiers you have personally known (as classmates... or members in a club who played baseball and tennis with you) who were drafted to Iraq and then committed suicide while in service by hanging or shooting themselves." The writing should, he says, provoke "frustration and anger towards their government, which will ... render them hostile to Bush ... and his Republican Party, and make them feel they must vote to bring the troops back from Iraq as soon as possible."


    The section above is from the end of this article
http://www.nysun.com/article/54077?page_no=1

    I can imagine a few people going completely ballistic at this one, but I have to get back to work.  Have fun.

   


I ran across a similar article encouraging Bush devotees supporting bush/war by posting threads to create suspicion on anything that might be seen as contrary to the initiative. 

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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 3:27:38 PM   
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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 4:26:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

      I came across this article while doing some research at work and just wanted to put it on the table (and in the archives) here. 

Mr. Billah advises his jihadist readers to "register yourself using a purely American name" and to "invent stories about American soldiers you have personally known (as classmates... or members in a club who played baseball and tennis with you) who were drafted to Iraq and then committed suicide while in service by hanging or shooting themselves." The writing should, he says, provoke "frustration and anger towards their government, which will ... render them hostile to Bush ... and his Republican Party, and make them feel they must vote to bring the troops back from Iraq as soon as possible."


    The section above is from the end of this article
http://www.nysun.com/article/54077?page_no=1

    I can imagine a few people going completely ballistic at this one, but I have to get back to work.  Have fun.


Great article, Rich. Thanks for posting it - but what it's saying about radical Leftists and Islamic jihad joining forces is only the most obvious thing in the world. Talk about the elephant in the room...

Oh, wait - we're not supposed to talk about it - I almost forgot. The truth isn't welcomed here...

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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 4:46:05 PM   
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I do feel though, that most would rather see some good being done over here instead.

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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 4:51:35 PM   
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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 5:35:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: m0rgan

4 legs good, 2 legs bad.
war is peace.
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smoking guns become mushroom clouds.
they will follow us here if we don't kill em there.

ring any bells, stoopid?




     Wow, name calling in the very first reply.  Tell me, Morgan, when you have your head that deep in the sand, do you use a bit of hose to the surface to breathe through, or a self-contained air supply?

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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 5:56:32 PM   
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The NY SUN? Geez, why don't you cite the Weekly World News?





       The author of the article in question is from the Middle East Media Research Institute, not the Sun staff.  Here's a great big shocker to save yourself a little time, the MEMRI has been attacked by the Left for being selective in what they release <GASP!!>.

      

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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 8:48:05 PM   
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radical Leftists and Islamic jihad joining forces is only the most obvious thing in the world.


With totally incompatible philosophies and goals, I'm not seeing the connection between the RIGHT WING JIHADISTS and the LEFT WING LIBERALS?

If ANYTHING the Neocons and Taliban are most similar.

That's as dumb as saying the Anarchists and Communists are working together, when they have totally incompatible worldviews ( Anarchists being the LEAST Gov't Control, while Communists ( Like Bush Supporters ) being for the MOST Gov't Control. )



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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 9:09:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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radical Leftists and Islamic jihad joining forces is only the most obvious thing in the world.


With totally incompatible philosophies and goals, I'm not seeing the connection between the RIGHT WING JIHADISTS and the LEFT WING LIBERALS?

        Ever hear the expression, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend?"


If ANYTHING the Neocons and Taliban are most similar.

       There is a bit of truth in this bullshit.  Since the Jihadists and the "Neocons" are the only ones with any interest in winning this war, how high will liberal social values and individual liberty be on the priority list of the winners?



That's as dumb as saying the Anarchists and Communists are working together, when they have totally incompatible worldviews ( Anarchists being the LEAST Gov't Control, while Communists ( Like Bush Supporters ) being for the MOST Gov't Control. )


       As dumb as the Nazi/Soviet non-agression pact even?  Pure marriage of convenience.  "I'll kill you later" and all that crap.  The main reason I'm pissed at the generic left is because so many of them have made hatred of Bush the highest value.  They are blind.  Both seek only to use the other.  Now let's see, peace and joy and freelove vs "How many innocent civilians can we murder and maim today in the name of God?"  Gee.  I wonder how that will turn out...



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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 9:17:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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radical Leftists and Islamic jihad joining forces is only the most obvious thing in the world.


With totally incompatible philosophies and goals, I'm not seeing the connection between the RIGHT WING JIHADISTS and the LEFT WING LIBERALS?

Ever hear the expression, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend?"



Yeah, that's the kind of retarded thinking that had the CIA under George HW Bush recruit, train and equip such terrorists as Osama Bin Ladin and Posada-Carilles.

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If ANYTHING the Neocons and Taliban are most similar.

There is a bit of truth in this bullshit. Since the Jihadists and the "Neocons" are the only ones with any interest in winning this war, how high will liberal social values and individual liberty be on the priority list of the winners?



I see you missed the point.

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That's as dumb as saying the Anarchists and Communists are working together, when they have totally incompatible worldviews ( Anarchists being the LEAST Gov't Control, while Communists ( Like Bush Supporters ) being for the MOST Gov't Control. )


As dumb as the Nazi/Soviet non-agression pact even? Pure marriage of convenience. "I'll kill you later" and all that crap. The main reason I'm pissed at the generic left is because so many of them have made hatred of Bush the highest value. They are blind. Both seek only to use the other. Now let's see, peace and joy and freelove vs "How many innocent civilians can we murder and maim today in the name of God?" Gee. I wonder how that will turn out...




You see, you've got it all wrong. It's not "Hatred of Bush". It's LOVE OF LIBERTY AND FREEDOM.

You see, I suspect those "Liberals" love Liberty and Freedom so much, that ANY ATTEMPT TO STRIP ANYONE OF THEIR UNALIENABLE RIGHTS is simply unacceptable, and a sign of someone who HATES AMERICA.

The Liberals ( And myself, but I'm a Hardcore Traditional Conservative ) recognize that anyone who would deprive others of say, Due Process and Equal Protection of the Law is simply an enemy of Freedom and must be resisted.

Al Quaida, The Commies, and the Nazis would not be stopped in their desire for total surveillance of all voice and data communications simply because of something like the 4th Amendment.

And neither was Bush.


Al Quaida, The Commies, and the Nazis would not be stopped in their desire to torture prisoners simply because of something like the Declaration of Independence and 6th and 14th Amendments.

And neither was Bush.



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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 9:20:10 PM   
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The main reason I'm pissed at the generic left is because so many of them have made hatred of Bush the highest value. 



Long as you dont think I am a member of this "generic left."

Emotionally speaking, I dont give a rat's ass about Bush.  I simply think his policies are going to do to the United States what his management policies did to Arbusto Energy, the environment of Texas (including air quality in Houston and Dallas), the finances of the state of Texas, Harken Energy, Spectrum 7, Enron (tangentially), etc

He leaves a long trail of wrecked companies and governments in his wake, and it seems as if he is going to leave the White House after destroying the United States economy with his incompetence.

I find it fascinating that despite his track record there are people who still support him.  Would you hire him and put him in charge of your company and it's finances?  If the answer is "no," why do you trust him to manage the United States?

Boggles the imagination.

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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 9:21:49 PM   
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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 9:24:04 PM   
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Truth, Justice and The American Way.

George Bush is a little Lex Luthor wannabe.


Lex Luthor is intelligent.

I think he is a Homer Simpson wannabe, except he cannot get a handle on how to succeed through idiocy.

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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 9:30:55 PM   
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Lex was a SUCCESSFUL businessman. And yes, as intelligent as Superman.

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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 9:32:19 PM   
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RE: War on Terror: The CM Front??? - 5/16/2007 9:51:01 PM   
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In addition, MEMRI researchers monitoring jihadi Web sites have recently found Islamists trying to influence American anti-war efforts. On the Islamist Al-Mohajroon Web site, someone with the username Al-Wathiq Billah instructs readers on how to infiltrate popular American Internet forums to distribute jihadist films and spread disinformation about the war.
"There is no doubt, my brothers, that raiding American forums is among the most important means of obtaining victory in the fierce media war ... and of influencing the views of the weak-minded American who pays his taxes so they will go to the infidel American army. This American is an idiot and does not know where Iraq is ... Every electronic mujahid" must engage in this raiding, Mr. Billah writes.
Mr. Billah advises his jihadist readers to "register yourself using a purely American name" and to "invent stories about American soldiers you have personally known (as classmates... or members in a club who played baseball and tennis with you) who were drafted to Iraq and then committed suicide while in service by hanging or shooting themselves." The writing should, he says, provoke "frustration and anger towards their government, which will ... render them hostile to Bush ... and his Republican Party, and make them feel they must vote to bring the troops back from Iraq as soon as possible."
 
 
       

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