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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
I agree with that. For me it's all about consent and knowing what each child could handle and making a responsible decision, which you just can't when you are messing around in the middle of a public place during the day.

But that doesn't mean we should be paralyzed and not do ANYTHING we want because we don't have signed forms from everyone.

I can't say where the line is between your consent vs mine in public areas.  I think loud interruptive noises are bad, running into people is bad, guns are bad, needles are bad, but nudity and public sex is no big deal.

And I completely understand what our standards actually ARE and have no activists desires to try and make a change towards how I feel they should be- so I don't do actually those things in parks, or if I do I try very hard to go to a private area in the park. 

BTW this is also part of why I'm so against dress codes.

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
If I was with children and that was going on, then I would take the "well, that's them, that is what is behavior you'll get to enjoy when you are old enough to handle it/we don't do that in public because we think it's rude to those around" approach. I simply feel that after a certain point, you've got to get the consent of those around you and if it dampens your enjoyment a bit... well we can't have everything we want in life.

For me, it's a bit like making loud noises. These behaviors have their place and it's a mark of good character to be courtious as to when, where and who is going to be around.

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I think the problem is that we make sex into a status symbol and currency- rather than a normal human experience with various aspects to it.

Exposure isn't the problem.

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Corysub, you're sort of exaggerating

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I think the problem is that we make sex into a status symbol and currency- rather than a normal human experience with various aspects to it.

Exposure isn't the problem.

I don't think it's cool to expose minors to sex. Just like, you should probably be of a certain age before you have to deal with taxes. :P Kids should get to have some time where they don't have to deal with all the complicated stuff of adult hood. I don't think nudity is problamatic, and I would more agree with you that I don't really care if kids are sheltered from nudity or not. But sexuality is complex and sometimes (to children) frightening and confusing adult behavior. Heck, come to think of it, sometimes it's frightening and confusing behavior to adults.

F** all you want, anywhere you want... but not in front of my kids and we're cool. There is a reason why there is an age of consent. I'd really prefer that people kept their yelling and screaming, and drunken brawls in private as well. If you are an exhibitionist, one of the things you gotta consider is that as soon as someone sees you, you have included them in the scene. I'm a voyure, I really enjoy exhibitionists, but not every one does, and heck, even if you could ask, kids can't really give consent. It is unfair to expect a five year old to have any capacity or ability to consent, or make good judgements about what they see or don't see, and how they process the actions and behaviors of adults. It's not fair to impose our sexuality on children.

edit : it was mentioned that kids do kinky stuff too. Yup, sure do. They hump teddy bears. They tie other kids up playing cops and robbers. They masterbate while watching cartoons. (In the house I grew up in, there was no shame, but a body was reminded what behavior was appropriate in public and what should be done in the privacy of ones room) But it's all about their own bodies and exploration. When we impose adult sexuality on children we fast forward them through all that exploration that is healthy and normal. Human sexuality evolves, grows, changes and we as adults in our culture need to make space for that to happen. I am not a fan of shaming kids about their bodies in any way. I am very pro education and there are some really great folks out there that are writing books and putting out support materials for parents these days. We don't have the right to short circuit their process, to throw them out of the kiddie pool and into the deep part of the ocean. I'm just arguing for their rights to stay in the kiddie pool, and our responsibility to make that possible as a culture.

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Most
of us, particularly slaves, can recall incidents where we worried about life and limb because of a dominant gone bezerk..!! 

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ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling

ron,

Just wondering  while you watched this, did you happen to see UM's? and if so appox. how many where running around close to where this "nasty"couple were?

ops   edited update:just saw that there were none.

so many are up in arms over it - lol
Tell me not one of you ( who is so disgusted) have never kissed, perhaps slapped your partners butt or done anything the slighest bit sexual  in public?
If you say you haven't - your lying

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No offense intended Diurnal Vampire, but I wish you'd read the entire posts before responding to things already addressed. I indicated the Sub did not seem to mind it at all and playfully went along with it. She did not appear to be hateful or angry at the guy, as you insinuate she must have been.
In fact, based on way the couple left the park, holding hands and googly-eyed, I sure bet they had excellent sex later on that day!
I don't think the couple was being selfish. I greatly sensed they were cognizant if enough people seemed to care about what they were doing, they would stop. As an example, they stopped a few times when people walked on the trail near to the bench. And the "flashing" part occurred when no one was on the trail close to them. Accessibility and visibility to the area was extremely limited due to fencing and the trail through the brush.
Some years ago, I one time also witnessed in a somewhat remote location of a different park a teenage guy give his teenage girlfriend a full wedgie, until her panties ripped off. I suppose that scene would offend some as well. But she also laughed and seemed to play along with it. I recall afterward she she tackled her boyfriend to the ground and slugged him quite hard in the back, and yes quite playfully, afterwards. They were both laughing.

As to MajiksSlave, you're absolutely right. I am not sure whether they were a Dom and Sub. I can imagine? Thanks.