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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/23/2007 10:14:25 AM

boy43

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Hello, A/all.

Well, nothing in this life is completely safe. You arent 100% safe when You take the car, not when walk for a street in a big city, nor when You buy a hamburguer... In sex, there is no absolute safety either. I am not recomended a unprotected sex, but what is clear is that there is safer practices than others... Oral sex is almost safe,,,,if some kind is,,,,please read:

http://www.medhelp.org/forums/STD/messages/2664.html

be A/all well
zor :)

Another interesting point to not is that a lot of diseases can be contracted sexually that are not STDs, like for instance Meningitis, this can be transfered sexually as can other non STDs .. if you want to bury your head in the sand go ahead, but i'd rather know all the dangers, might not stop me but at least I know what could happen and what I'm risking...

Just my opinion

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Thank you for your answer, i will have it in mind.
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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/23/2007 10:47:08 AM

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The HPV vaccination works just as well on males as on females. It's just that they don't get cervical cancer, so no one's pushing for them to get the vaccine. So they spread an sti, who cares? Love the double standard.

I had HPV, actually I faced cancer the last few years I was VERY open about it and through my surgery and biopsies, etc. That new drug would NOT have helped, their are about 100 types of HPV, that drug protects against 3 or 4 of the types, the type I had [since my surgery and immune system has gotten stronger, its no longer in my system and NONE of my partners have had it], would NOT have been covered by that drug, yet, I was close to having cancer. The drug only protects against a few strains, I'm glad it does, as for me taking the shot, not gonna happen; knowing my luck, it would make me more open to getting HPV again. I do recommend that others get it though, anyone who has had multiple partners or who's partner has had multiple partners.

{side note ~ anyone interested in knowing about what i went through, please message me on the other side for the link to my blog where those entries are, i made them public.. since then, i have talked to 4 or 5 ladies who saw their dr's and one of them had cervical cancer - stage 1, she is doing well now, but, she said reading my blogs got her to see her dr and it may have saved her life}

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/23/2007 12:08:59 PM

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People still have unprotected sex with strangers?
Why am I not surprised?

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/23/2007 1:27:52 PM

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I love this topic.... it can never be discussed too often imho.

I worked in obgyn for over 20 yrs so I got a close view, of sorts. In my case, I insist upon getting to know someone in order to establish a monogamous relationship before sex is introduced, agree to be fluid bound, get tested with results (with abstince between testing and beginning a realtionship). I will offer copies of test results, no problem. If the other person isn't willing to be that open, he's not a partner for me.

Oral sex is a body fluid exchange, and saliva isn't 100% good protection. Personally, bisexual and swinging behavior are hard limits - the exposure factor just gets too high very quickly. If I can offer years between partners with negative testing, I want someone who can offer limited exposure too.

HPV is a risk factor for cervical cancer.. it's not the only one. Annual pap tests and HPV tests are good. Most cervical cancers are slow growing.... pre-cancerous changes take approximately 5 yrs to turn into cancer, so there's plenty of time to get cryo treatments. If the abnormal cells grow back, they do a cone biopsy, and if that doesnt' eliminate the abnormal cells, it goes to a lil more invasive treatment.

I had a few one night stands in my youth - then I wondered why was having unprotected sex with someone I didn't know/trust easier than saying no? So I decided to value myself/life enough to wait until trust was established... and clean test results could be shared. If I like someone enough to want to have sex with them, I want more than one encounter. I'm willing to spend time to establish trust... but that's my choice.

Safe sex to all,
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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/23/2007 1:30:50 PM

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{side note ~ anyone interested in knowing about what i went through, please message me on the other side for the link to my blog where those entries are, i made them public.. since then, i have talked to 4 or 5 ladies who saw their dr's and one of them had cervical cancer - stage 1, she is doing well now, but, she said reading my blogs got her to see her dr and it may have saved her life}

Thank you for your openness and sharing - one life affected is a huge thing.

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/23/2007 3:36:31 PM

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it's YOUR body..you may have given its use to your master but its still YOUR body and IS your buisness.

Not every slave is of this mindset, myself included. It is not MY body, it is my Master's property; I just happen to occupy it. Anything my body is subjected to, medical, sexual, fitness, etc., is at his choosing. Even now I have some medical issues I am contending with and HE is making those decisions as to what to do. While I completely respect your opinion about such things, I struggle not to find it offensive to so vehemently offer that opinion to someone else as her absolute truth. It simply is not so.

That being said, Master and I are tested regularly, and I have been tested regularly for 3 years. Anyone involved with him sexually, or who he involves with me sexually will be tested prior to involvement and protective measures will be taken.

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/23/2007 3:40:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: Wildnfreehrt2004

I love this topic.... it can never be discussed too often imho.

I worked in obgyn for over 20 yrs so I got a close view, of sorts. In my case, I insist upon getting to know someone in order to establish a monogamous relationship before sex is introduced, agree to be fluid bound, get tested with results (with abstince between testing and beginning a realtionship). I will offer copies of test results, no problem. If the other person isn't willing to be that open, he's not a partner for me.

Oral sex is a body fluid exchange, and saliva isn't 100% good protection. Personally, bisexual and swinging behavior are hard limits - the exposure factor just gets too high very quickly. If I can offer years between partners with negative testing, I want someone who can offer limited exposure too.

HPV is a risk factor for cervical cancer.. it's not the only one. Annual pap tests and HPV tests are good. Most cervical cancers are slow growing.... pre-cancerous changes take approximately 5 yrs to turn into cancer, so there's plenty of time to get cryo treatments. If the abnormal cells grow back, they do a cone biopsy, and if that doesnt' eliminate the abnormal cells, it goes to a lil more invasive treatment.

I had a few one night stands in my youth - then I wondered why was having unprotected sex with someone I didn't know/trust easier than saying no? So I decided to value myself/life enough to wait until trust was established... and clean test results could be shared. If I like someone enough to want to have sex with them, I want more than one encounter. I'm willing to spend time to establish trust... but that's my choice.

Safe sex to all,
Wildy

Excellent post, WildNfreehrt!
This should be read by most of the posters around here.
Why have unprotected sex with people you don't know or trust?
It is also easier for me, to just say no!

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/24/2007 7:48:23 AM

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I was just wondering how many people here will admit to having unprotected
sex?
Do you always have protected sex, or does it depend on the person you are with?
Do you insist on new partners being tested for sexually transmitted drugs?

Safe sex with new partners or no sex.

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/24/2007 10:01:58 AM

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I must be oblivious, since I don't have kids, but why do people get their kids vaccinated for (insert childhood diseases here) but debate wether or not they should vaccinate them against HPV which can lead to cancer?
Face it, your kids are going to have sex. HPV is an infection, it's not a judgement from God.
If the questions are about safety or efficacy, that I understand. The ethical challenge? I don't get it.

Sorry just baffled.

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/24/2007 11:03:01 AM

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That is why I was asking, some people don't want to think that their children will have sex at least until they are 18 or so, but that isn't always true. I was just wondering who would have their children vaccinated since it is becoming one of the most common STDs out there.

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/25/2007 12:52:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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ORIGINAL: imthatacheyouhav
it's YOUR body..you may have given its use to your master but its still YOUR body and IS your buisness.

Not every slave is of this mindset, myself included. It is not MY body, it is my Master's property; I just happen to occupy it. Anything my body is subjected to, medical, sexual, fitness, etc., is at his choosing. Even now I have some medical issues I am contending with and HE is making those decisions as to what to do. While I completely respect your opinion about such things, I struggle not to find it offensive to so vehemently offer that opinion to someone else as her absolute truth. It simply is not so.

That being said, Master and I are tested regularly, and I have been tested regularly for 3 years. Anyone involved with him sexually, or who he involves with me sexually will be tested prior to involvement and protective measures will be taken.

Ya know....I have to remember this when using this board.... I sound like a jackass to those who hold this belief. And its kinda funny because in some ways our beliefs about the roles of slave belonging to Master are very similar. I believe that I belong to my Master...but within different agreed upon parameters, I guess. I would not have asked for a collar or I would not have agreed to give myself over to my Master if the possibility of sex ( safe or not) with others was a potential. It was agreed upon, in the beginning...that this was not an expectation that I would need to concern myself with. I asked that my Master show me results for two separate complete STD panels, before we ever had any unprotected sexual contact. For me, the risk possible with multiple casual sex partners was not one I was/am willing to take. For others, it may be a risk that is acceptable. I won't pretend to understand the willingness to accept certain potential sexual risks...but my not understanding is not anyone elses problem....

My concerns come off as judgemental.... and its funny...because were to you talk to me in person you would discover that I am very non judgemental of people and there choices for themselves....but that I will frequently foam at the mouth when it comes to issues of safety. That does NOT mean that I think others are wrong or dumb or (insert other derisive adjective here). It simply means that I am spouting similar health stats and such that others are also posting on this forum. As I am hostess for my Master at play parties we organize...it is also expected of me to promote safer sex and safer play to those in attendance. Blame it on my training...if you ever see me...you might recognize me......I'll be the one walking around offering condoms to anyone interested in using them at our next party...

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/25/2007 3:52:59 AM

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Not meaning to quibble, but if it's transmitted sexually, it's an STD. :)

Sounds fair to me, but I read that Meningitis is NOT an STD because it is rare for it to be transfered sexually as are numerous other diseases.. go figure.

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/25/2007 7:08:47 AM

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I was just wondering how many people here will admit to having unprotected
sex?
Do you always have protected sex, or does it depend on the person you are with?
Do you insist on new partners being tested for sexually transmitted drugs?

I really feel that using protection is a very strong requirement for me. I have been tested on a regular basis for ten years now. STD free and plan on staying that way.

My ex-husband died at age 43 from other health issues but on his autopsy (he died at home) it showed that he was HIV positive and had been for quite some time. His then wife was floored! She had no clue that he was bi-sexual, nor was she aware of his BDSM and swinger lifestyle. Obviously, they didn't have a real good communication going on in that marriage of 5 years.

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/25/2007 9:23:29 AM

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MamaDomme, this is the saddest lifestyle story I have ever read.
Did his wife test positive for HIV?

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/25/2007 9:33:39 AM

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I honestly don't know Rayna. She really fell into a pretty deep depression after the funeral and eventually cut herself off from everyone ever connected to him. About a month after he died, she managed to hack into his private folders on his computer and found tons of pics that she had no idea about-- she called me and we talked for a couple hours about it. I was pretty amazed that he had kept all of it a huge secret from her--- I had known from the day we met!

I urged her to get tested, I started getting tested the day I got the autopsy result even tho it had been several years since we had been intimate.

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/25/2007 9:37:38 AM

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Thank you for replying MamaDomme, this story should be required reading for many people.
Thanks again for sharing.
It is amazing the lies and secrets that people are able to get away with.

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/25/2007 1:56:31 PM

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I learned my lesson through interaction with swingers. All their profiles read that they use safe sex. But in fact, almost none of them do.

An STD test is only valid on the day it is taken. It's a false sense of security. No condom, no play.

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I shudder at the thought of a swinger refusing to use protection I have only been to one "swinger club" and they insisted on the use of protection.

very valid point on the test only being valid that day. I am completly with you on the "no condom, no play" line of thought. Do I like condoms? no, but I like HIV even less.

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/25/2007 4:53:46 PM

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I was just wondering how many people here will admit to having unprotected
sex?
Do you always have protected sex, or does it depend on the person you are with?
Do you insist on new partners being tested for sexually transmitted drugs?

I really feel that using protection is a very strong requirement for me. I have been tested on a regular basis for ten years now. STD free and plan on staying that way.

My ex-husband died at age 43 from other health issues but on his autopsy (he died at home) it showed that he was HIV positive and had been for quite some time. His then wife was floored! She had no clue that he was bi-sexual, nor was she aware of his BDSM and swinger lifestyle. Obviously, they didn't have a real good communication going on in that marriage of 5 years.

It is amazing how many people have a death wish.
She was married to a total stranger.

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/25/2007 8:33:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: MamaDomme

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I was just wondering how many people here will admit to having unprotected
sex?
Do you always have protected sex, or does it depend on the person you are with?
Do you insist on new partners being tested for sexually transmitted drugs?

I really feel that using protection is a very strong requirement for me. I have been tested on a regular basis for ten years now. STD free and plan on staying that way.

My ex-husband died at age 43 from other health issues but on his autopsy (he died at home) it showed that he was HIV positive and had been for quite some time. His then wife was floored! She had no clue that he was bi-sexual, nor was she aware of his BDSM and swinger lifestyle. Obviously, they didn't have a real good communication going on in that marriage of 5 years.

It is amazing how many people have a death wish.
She was married to a total stranger.

So very true. Just how much of a stranger he was to her she later found out. Her depression was pretty severe once she discovered all the little deep, dark secrets in his closet. His outward personna was really the only one she knew-- he was a charmer, very friendly, extremely intelligent, outgoing and a delight to be with.......... the dark side was very ugly. It was nice that she lived happily with him for those 5 years, altho her devestation after learning the truth was pretty intense.

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RE: Unprotected Sex - 6/26/2007 4:55:58 AM

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With Toad, yes since we are married and possibly want more kiddos. With anyone else we bring home.....Hell no! Well, orally, yes.....condoms for penetration of any kind.

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