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RE: public leash - 6/30/2007 4:32:08 PM

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i can't believe the santimonius bs on these forums whenever the topic of public play comes up. its like clockwork. do you really think people are going to be traumatized by seeing some dude on a leash? there are a lot of weird people out there, and most people are fully aware of it. relax.

It comes up because of the concept of consensuality. Most people follow either SSC or RACK - which both involve consensuality. Are you going to try and tell me that when someone goes out like that, they are getting the consent of every single person who is witnessing their kink? Unless they are, then it becomes forcing their kink on other people ... which is wrong.

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RE: public leash - 6/30/2007 4:44:52 PM

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doughieboy does have a point. There are far worse things seen in public that people have come to turn a blind eye to, even if not accept, such as drug dealing.

i think you may get away with it in certain big cities, more so at night. i think the whole idea depends on location. In some areas anything goes, in others it is frowned upon.

Maybe a more discrete idea would work, with a collar attached to a leash and the lead running inside clothing and down the sleeve. Therefore it may look more as if you were holding hands.

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RE: public leash - 6/30/2007 4:46:05 PM

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Certainly it could be fun for you to engage in a big public display, but I take the feelings of those around me in to consideration and would find it rather rude to walk a sub through a public mall on a full leash. The vanilla folks in the mall haven't consented to seeing public D/s play so I try to respect that. With that thought, a more subtle solution might be in order, perhaps you could attach a short looped strap to a wrist cuff or bracelet-- more subtle but highly effective. Or you could instruct the sub to follow exactly 2 steps behind you controlling their behavior that way.

I agree with that, it is rude to subject others to your lifestyle especially in a family/youth type enviroment...

Regarding following exactly a few steps behind, this is *very* effective in my opinion. I went on a double-date many years ago with a Dom and his vanilla friends and this was my instruction. I also had to dress provocatively (stockings, black miniskirt...) while they were all "mundane"...walking through the mall like that and later a film together was quite the experience to me and I still think about it on occassion even years later. I know he enjoyed it just as much.

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RE: public leash - 6/30/2007 4:47:15 PM

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I consider it to be about the same as when two people are making out heavily in public ... I don't need or want to see it, and I shouldn't have to - and I've been known to go up to people doing that and remind them that it's a public place and their behaviour is more suited for a private environment.

I've also been known to report other behavior (such as suspected drug dealing, abuse, etc) ... so I am not one to turn a blind eye.

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RE: public leash - 6/30/2007 4:49:05 PM

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"are you going to try and tell me that when someone goes out like that, they are getting the consent of every single person who is witnessing their kink?"

No, im saying that I don't care. Feel free to act by whatever code you want, but its very distasteful to me when you try to impose it on others. It's peoples right to act foolishly or bizzarrely in public if they want and other peoples right to be offended. Every day I see things that offend me: people listening to bad music, people who have phones pinned to their ears, old people kissing, parents with loud, dirty children...I'm thoroughly offended by all these things but I would never question the right of the people to do them in public.

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RE: public leash - 6/30/2007 4:54:57 PM

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i am not disagreeing with You Ma`am. Just pointing out that while this type of play may not be acceptable, there are areas where it would not be frowned upon.

In some areas of London, for instance, illegal activities are so common You would spend all day reporting them. Its sad but its true.

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RE: public leash - 6/30/2007 5:22:32 PM

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Oh, heaven forbid that old people should kiss. How offensive. Go right up to them and tell them that is reserved for young people. Look out for the cane, though.

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RE: public leash - 6/30/2007 5:27:43 PM

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Faints at the idea of old people kissing.....Chance would be a fine thing !

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RE: public leash - 6/30/2007 5:32:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: dougieboy

"are you going to try and tell me that when someone goes out like that, they are getting the consent of every single person who is witnessing their kink?"

No, im saying that I don't care. Feel free to act by whatever code you want, but its very distasteful to me when you try to impose it on others. It's peoples right to act foolishly or bizzarrely in public if they want and other peoples right to be offended. Every day I see things that offend me: people listening to bad music, people who have phones pinned to their ears, old people kissing, parents with loud, dirty children...I'm thoroughly offended by all these things but I would never question the right of the people to do them in public.

Well... ya see... some of us still try to be courtous when we can and expect others to do the same. I know it's utterly insane and so old-fashioned. But hey, it's my kink so you should respect it!

By the way, people are far less questioning their right to do it but more the wisdom of doing it.

Edited because it sent too soon and I didn't like the wording. :-P

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RE: public leash - 6/30/2007 5:39:18 PM

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WE like to go to strip clubs and often take a pet or two with collars and lead by a lease..SO far so good,only glances and a few are brave enought to say hi...IT depends on time or place and are you in an adult atmosphere WE certainly wouldn't go to taco bell smiles...

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RE: public leash - 6/30/2007 6:06:40 PM

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live and let live moust folks to day or to houng up on them self and and there needs and problems to even notis some thing like that .

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RE: public leash - 6/30/2007 6:12:39 PM

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To dougieboy -
I find it ironic that you are claiming that I'm imposing my behavior on others when that is exactly what the OP is about ... imposing their kink on someone else. I'm simply stating that it would be in poor taste to do so, and why I feel that way (and why most of the other posters feel that way as well). My opinion isn't forcing the OP and his girlfriend to not go out to a mall or wherever with an obvious leash - it's simply stating why I think it's wrong to do so. Even when I go up to someone and point out that their behavior is inappropriate, it's not forcing them to go somewhere else, it's just telling them that I don't appreciate them forcing their behavior into my face.

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RE: public leash - 6/30/2007 6:57:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: SweetDommes

To dougieboy -
My opinion isn't forcing the OP and his girlfriend to not go out to a mall or wherever with an obvious leash - it's simply stating why I think it's wrong to do so.

Of course you're not forcing them to. How exactly would you do that? You're just scolding with a rather pollyannaish attitude which I find annoying. Not a quality I would look for in a Domme, but to each his own.

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RE: public leash - 6/30/2007 7:55:34 PM

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I know one dom that when she meets at a restraunt a sub she will send them into the bathroom to attach a leash to his manhood and then once back to the table, reach down and give her the end of the leash so she can yank on it during dinner if she cares too.While it is under the table cloth, I realize too this is not an open as walking in a mall with a leash in hand for all to see. Yet it is a form of public exposure

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RE: public leash - 6/30/2007 8:45:44 PM

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I've never done this with my sub, although I wouldn't hestitate if we were going to a fetish/BDSM outing. In fact I think that it would be a lot of fun with like minded people. I have seen this done in public at the local Ren Faire we have here in Md. A Master was walking his collared/leashed/shackled slave around and frankly, some of the younger children were frightened of her. I guess they thought she was rabid or something. Anyways, it didn't bother me but it definitely did other people. I think the worst part was when she begged for a drink of water and he spat into her mouth.

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RE: public leash - 6/30/2007 9:06:14 PM

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as opposed to a half leash?( cheeky grin)

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on a full leash.

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RE: public leash - 7/1/2007 7:11:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: dougieboy

Of course you're not forcing them to. How exactly would you do that? You're just scolding with a rather pollyannaish attitude which I find annoying. Not a quality I would look for in a Domme, but to each his own.

That's ok, you lack respect for others, which is a quality that I insist upon in a submissive ...

I do feel the need to point out that I did give them a perfectly acceptable alternative, which you ignored in light of the fact that you didn't like me stating that it's in poor taste to go out into a vanilla setting and expose others to one's kink ...

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RE: public leash - 7/1/2007 8:05:43 AM

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Go for it. Have done a fair bit of public humiliation. For us, it was exotically humiliating for him ... to me it was hot hot hot...to everyone else we were a couple of freaks enjoying purselves ...

Last night with vanilla friends we made two guys kiss for our amusement ... a gay boy I groped and spanked cause his fluffly pants just needed my kind of attention ...

I agree with dougie ... people get to hung up on this shite. .. let it go .. and live a little ...

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RE: public leash - 7/1/2007 8:59:51 AM

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First, I am not sure if my response is even welcome in this forum since it is "Ask a Mistress".

MY personal thoughts on the subject and about those that spout "SSC and RACK" and this is NOT directed to any one person. Everything we do in public, that is NOT aganist the law of the govering body, is Consensual. They have said so by NOT passing a law aganist it. While it may not be liked or enjoyed by some people ( the minority) of the people, to bad. If the majority of the people found it distasteful or objected to it then they will pass a law aganist it. Until then enjoy and and for those that do not like to see it. Do the same thing I do when the guy next to me has his music up to high or I do not like. I close my window. If you do not like what you see on TV what do you do? Change the channel. Do the same for at the mall. If what is happening there you do not like. Vote with your pocket book, stop going there.

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RE: public leash - 7/1/2007 9:27:13 AM

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FelinePersuasion --

I suppose I should clarify my "fully leashed" comment. I enjoy leashing my subs and I keep a range of leashes on hand to do so. In my thoughts, fully leashed equates to the four foot leather or chain leash attached to either my subs collar or the harness on his cock. I also keep a very short leash that is basically a handle on a few inches of chain that attaches particularly well to wrist cuffs. My subs are trained to fetch their leashes based on the "full" or the "short" size.

Your cheeky grin is appreciated. ; )

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