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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 11:01:19 AM   
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Show me national statistics that back up your claim that there are less whites in jail/prison and then I'll take you seriously. Until then, you're just making vague statements to lend credence to your whining about how unfair the confinement system is. I would bet you don't work in that system and have only second hand knowledge of it.

So until you find a statistic which compiles NATIONAL averages, your statement means exactly dick. You can't just make statements with no evidence to back them up.


http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm
At year end 2005 there were 3,145 black male sentenced prison inmates per 100,000 black males in the United States, compared to 1,244 Hispanic male inmates per 100,000 Hispanic males and 471 white male inmates per 100,000 white males.


Thank you for the statistics.

The original poster did not originally post statistics to back up her claim.

Obviously she was correct in terms of national average.

However, it is not true in the areas I live and work in.



So what?

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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 11:03:42 AM   
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I would hate to be you.


Thats why Im me and you're you...life works better that way....Id hate for you to be me too, then I couldnt be me.
Your ok Ghita,
Even though youre a rebel I like you
Just wish geeky was as honest

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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 11:03:43 AM   
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i like Carlos' comedy (and i was lucky enough to see him live before) ...and i agree he does tell like it is in America. i never heard of ADD or ADHD or LD (learning disabled) until my parents adopted twins in 1990 ...act up in the store - HELL NO or face the dreaded leather whooping of a lifetime when you got home (plus my parents weren't shy to tap that ass in the store either) - if you do it today, people on their mobile phones will report you for child abuse. i have seen kids manipulate their parents into buying the item after throwing a major fit in the middle of the aisle.

racial profiling for everyone - i totally agree.  nothing like being stared down at an exclusive shop as if (a)you don't have money to spend and/or (b)you've come to rob them.  even driving in certain neighboring suburbs is bad for you (especially when driving a car the police think you've stolen) - i was pulled over twice not because i was speeding but because of the color of my skin ...i wasn't suppose to be driving a Corvette (if you get my meaning)


Lmao at "L.D." "Learning Disabled."
We used to call that,........."Stupid."


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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 11:04:52 AM   
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There are plenty of people who share your sentiments and you are not unique for having them....I just find it very odd when someone orates such an opinion....It is at least honest and I actually applaud you for that.   But I am sorry that possessing such an attitude makes my skin crawl.


I will not apologize for anything I just said, it is my honest opinion and it was formed because of my personal experiances. I will say I was not born racist, my parents drive me nuts by how much they try to not "offend" anyone. God forbid we arent always politically correct.  I will alwasy respect anyone I meet on the street, at school, or at a job. I am polite to anyone, no matter their background or color and have had many decent conversations with people from just about every race and religion. I dont start being rude until someone proves to me they dont deserve my respect. Unfortunantly, due to personal experiances in my life, its happened too many times for me to try to find the few people around here who arent that way. I am stereotypical towards the blacks in our town, but only because they have proved to me time and time again that the shoe fits and they are proud to wear it. Im not telling them to change their ways, just that me and their ways dont get along so Im gonna continue to live in my all white neighborhhod where I dont have to listen to blaring rap music at 2am. *shrugs* hate me for it, applaud me for it, whichever, doesnt matter.

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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 11:05:31 AM   
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Not all mexicans are lazy fuckers who won't get real jobs and share thier home with 20 people.


I worked with a group of Mexicans in a different life.. yeah, there were literally 12 of them in a single wide, complete with whoever had family up here, most were legally in this country, but I'll be dammed if they weren't the hardest-working bunch of mo-fos on that project.. and because they were splitting the rent 12 or 13 ways, they were out *maybe* $20 a month each on rent, 99% of the remaning money they were sending home to their familes in Mexico... minus a little tequila money.



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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 11:06:38 AM   
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Lmao at "L.D." "Learning Disabled."
We used to call that,........."Stupid."



And we all know.. "you can't fix stupid".


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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 11:11:30 AM   
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http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm
At year end 2005 there were 3,145 black male sentenced prison inmates per 100,000 black males in the United States, compared to 1,244 Hispanic male inmates per 100,000 Hispanic males and 471 white male inmates per 100,000 white males.

Something that needs to be taken into account here. For purposes of padding and skewing statistics Hispanics are considered white for purposes of balancing these numbers.
Spanish is a language not a race. Most criminal element hispanics are clearly of the negro race as per mugshots and wanted posters. If this was reported accurately the stats would be very alarming. Again refer to www.tightrope.com

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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 11:12:04 AM   
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You do realize that even though you presently live in an all white community, it can be "infiltrated" by blacks at anytime?  There is essentially no where in the U.S. you can run to that at least does not have the possibility of blacks living there.  If "white flight" is your solution then have it, and no disrespect on my part.  But what happens when you are run out of places to run to?

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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 11:12:40 AM   
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I would hate to be you.


Thats why Im me and you're you...life works better that way....Id hate for you to be me too, then I couldnt be me.
Your ok Ghita,
Even though youre a rebel I like you
Just wish geeky was as honest

What the hell are you talking about? I've been as blatantly honest a human being can BE.

Dishonesty is NOT a part of my character because lying is a stupid thing people do to impress other people and I don't give a shit about impressing a bunch of strangers on the computer.


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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 11:14:31 AM   
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i would lmao with you however my oldest UM is classified LD because she's a TBI (traumatic brain injured) student who was hit by a train 7yrs ago this month.

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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 11:21:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl

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ORIGINAL: rdgexile

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ORIGINAL: GhitaAmati

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I would hate to be you.


Thats why Im me and you're you...life works better that way....Id hate for you to be me too, then I couldnt be me.
Your ok Ghita,
Even though youre a rebel I like you
Just wish geeky was as honest

What the hell are you talking about? I've been as blatantly honest a human being can BE.

Dishonesty is NOT a part of my character because lying is a stupid thing people do to impress other people and I don't give a shit about impressing a bunch of strangers on the computer.

Yeah right,
I bet you drive an SUV too dont you?
You should have been a teacher

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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 11:23:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: rdgexile

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ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl

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ORIGINAL: rdgexile

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ORIGINAL: GhitaAmati

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I would hate to be you.


Thats why Im me and you're you...life works better that way....Id hate for you to be me too, then I couldnt be me.
Your ok Ghita,
Even though youre a rebel I like you
Just wish geeky was as honest

What the hell are you talking about? I've been as blatantly honest a human being can BE.

Dishonesty is NOT a part of my character because lying is a stupid thing people do to impress other people and I don't give a shit about impressing a bunch of strangers on the computer.

Yeah right,
I bet you drive an SUV too dont you?
You should have been a teacher


No, I drive a sunfire and a pick up.

What the hell are you trying to imply? I'm not understanding you and you are confusing me. Would you just spit out whatever you are trying to imply because I am NOT getting it.


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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 11:25:40 AM   
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Yeah right,
I bet you drive an SUV too dont you?
You should have been a teacher



Hey!  I drive a Lexus SUV cleverly disguised as a 1995 Chevy Blazer that's so rusted out I'm scared of hitting bumps.. LOL

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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 11:26:34 AM   
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everett? 


Heh...i grew up in Everett *shudder* it's an utter cess pool now


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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 11:29:25 AM   
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Lmao at "L.D." "Learning Disabled."
We used to call that,........."Stupid."



Wow.  Just... wow.

I was in graduate school for a while to get a teaching credential for special education with emphasis on neurological disorders.

Two classic examples of a learning disorder are hypoattentive and hyperattentive.

To look at an individual who has one of these things, one sees a child that is easily distracted, unable to focus, tends to be a poor performer, unable to pay attention, may end up acting out, etc.

So people scream at this child to pay attention, try harder, etc.

A child that is hypoattentive is unable to focus, easily distracted, tends to be a poor performer, and is unable to pay attention.  Teaching this child how to focus and pay attention is a wonderful thing.

A child that is hyperattentive is unable to focus BECAUSE they pay attention to EVERYTHING.  They lack a filtering mechanism in their brain to sort out what is important to pay attention to.  Telling this child to pay attention and try harder messes them up and prevents them from learning.

Calling a learning disabled "stupid," popeye, is simply ignorant and almost abusive.  The fact that everybody thought the sun revolved around the earth in the 1200s does not mean they were stupid, simply ignorant.

The fact that slow learners in the 1950s were called stupid does not mean they were so, science had simply not caught up with what was going on in their cognitive processes.

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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 11:37:35 AM   
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There are plenty of people who share your sentiments and you are not unique for having them....I just find it very odd when someone orates such an opinion....It is at least honest and I actually applaud you for that.   But I am sorry that possessing such an attitude makes my skin crawl.


I will not apologize for anything I just said, it is my honest opinion and it was formed because of my personal experiances. I will say I was not born racist, my parents drive me nuts by how much they try to not "offend" anyone. God forbid we arent always politically correct.  I will alwasy respect anyone I meet on the street, at school, or at a job. I am polite to anyone, no matter their background or color and have had many decent conversations with people from just about every race and religion. I dont start being rude until someone proves to me they dont deserve my respect. Unfortunantly, due to personal experiances in my life, its happened too many times for me to try to find the few people around here who arent that way. I am stereotypical towards the blacks in our town, but only because they have proved to me time and time again that the shoe fits and they are proud to wear it. Im not telling them to change their ways, just that me and their ways dont get along so Im gonna continue to live in my all white neighborhhod where I dont have to listen to blaring rap music at 2am. *shrugs* hate me for it, applaud me for it, whichever, doesnt matter.


(GhitaAmati steps down from the podium....To a small smattering of applause which quickly subsides as others look around to see who could possibly be in agreement with such a speech)

It just goes to show that some very nice looking packages can harbor something horrible within.

I don't think anyone hates you for your opinions....But I know plenty of spectacular people that wouldn't give you the time of day because of your beliefs....So you will invariably seek out those who reaffirm your own thoughts.....The people who might be capable of altering your views won't probably care to be in your presence.....So this is simply your path.....I hope it works well for you....I find you to be rather sad...It makes no difference...Just words on a screen. You've made up your mind.  And  although it doesn't matter to you...And has little effect on the way my life will continue...When I read your post I didn't feel any anger or resentment and certainly not hate.  I think it is just an over all feeling of sadness as to what you are obviously missing.

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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 11:40:41 AM   
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No, I drive a sunfire and a pick up.

What the hell are you trying to imply? I'm not understanding you and you are confusing me. Would you just spit out whatever you are trying to imply because I am NOT getting it.

Basically its about intellectual dishonesty.
While I will certainly agree with you that good and bad people come in all races, I can honestly say also that there is only one ethnic group I know of that can make a town look like Beirut.

Does black on white crime ever bring any civil rights or bias crime charges? I've never seen it. Working in the prison perhaps you can share such info if you've ever seen such charges brought. I tend to doubt you can find any such thing.

Fially, your BLACK friends. Do you ever visit their neighborhoods? Or do you get nervous and keep your doors locked and windows up if you happen to take a wrong turn through there?

You see bending over backwards so much to be non-prejudiced tends to overdo it so much that it is glaringly obvious that you think in an extremely condescending manner. Being involved with Law Enforcement you cant help it. It just happens without your knowing it

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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 11:48:51 AM   
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No, I drive a sunfire and a pick up.

What the hell are you trying to imply? I'm not understanding you and you are confusing me. Would you just spit out whatever you are trying to imply because I am NOT getting it.

Basically its about intellectual dishonesty.
While I will certainly agree with you that good and bad people come in all races, I can honestly say also that there is only one ethnic group I know of that can make a town look like Beirut.

Does black on white crime ever bring any civil rights or bias crime charges? I've never seen it. Working in the prison perhaps you can share such info if you've ever seen such charges brought. I tend to doubt you can find any such thing.

Fially, your BLACK friends. Do you ever visit their neighborhoods? Or do you get nervous and keep your doors locked and windows up if you happen to take a wrong turn through there?

You see bending over backwards so much to be non-prejudiced tends to overdo it so much that it is glaringly obvious that you think in an extremely condescending manner. Being involved with Law Enforcement you cant help it. It just happens without your knowing it


I'm still not sure I understand you and if I did, I probably wouldn't agree...I might think in a condescending manner but not about race. I've had too many friends of various races. As for visiting the neighborhood of my black friend, it's funny you mentioned that...my friend and I take turns when we go out. One week, we go to "the 'hood" as she calls it and we go to all these tiny little bars where I'm the only white person there...the next week, we go to a country/western bar or something similiar... We both think it's very fun and a good way to learn about different cultures.

I am a paranoid person, and I always lock my door in ANY neighborhood that appears "run down" regardless of whether the people there are white, black, or purple polka dotted.


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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 12:04:57 PM   
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I am a paranoid person, and I always lock my door in ANY neighborhood that appears "run down" regardless of whether the people there are white, black, or purple polka dotted.



Hey!  My cousin is purple polka-dotted!!

Sorry.. couldn't resist.. heh heh heh

Mmm.. cheesecake makes for a GREAT suger high.. :-D

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RE: Not For The Easily Offended - 7/2/2007 12:34:11 PM   
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Hey!  My cousin is purple polka-dotted!!



Does he eat people?

Enquiring minds want to know.

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