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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/14/2007 10:02:19 PM

ShyMistress

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Hey I can't help if you look soooo much younger then your age...

Do you get cantankerous too?

*runs away before anything gets thrown at Her*

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/14/2007 10:03:10 PM

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lol Popeye!

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/14/2007 10:04:16 PM

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ok, this is giving me a headache. Lockit i hope things clear up for you soon.

There is too much bashing going on, on this thread.

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/14/2007 10:05:08 PM

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I definitely wouldn't post such a personal thread online for just anyone to read about....especially with my picture on it. I would also make my profile very generic, disguise location, and leave out personal information. If I was being cyber stalked, I would just shut my computer down for a while. I would also try to educate myself about firewalls and other safety measures, and talk to my close personal friends on the phone, or in person.

Not sure I understand this....

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/14/2007 10:06:57 PM

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ROFL ShyMistress!

I get very cantankerous... can't you tell? No need to dodge me... you helped! Never bite the hand that feeds you kinda thing... lol...

Oh... for the days when I thought I was a thread ender... this is insane! lol Guess you could say I am going out with a blast here... My bones hurt... lol

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/14/2007 10:09:02 PM

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Lockit,

Shy's like that everyday... and some days its amusing... others I stay amused

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/14/2007 10:10:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

lol Popeye!

I couldn't resist.

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/14/2007 10:12:06 PM

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I started here at CM thinking I was safe as I could be... I am older and not in great health and I felt that the lifestyle that was freeing me in many ways was something I should be proud to stand for and was in a way coming out. Good intentions doesn't mean wise I guess. I just wasn't going to let my life be controlled. I still won't stand for it. This stalker/hacker knows everything... I have nothing to hide. If this will help anyone else... it has been worth it for that alone. It has however, helped me and for that I will be very thankful for a long time.

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/14/2007 10:14:51 PM

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lol LothLauren and Popeye

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/14/2007 10:15:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lothlauren

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Keep blathering like the goomba that you are.
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Wow! Now there's a term I've not heard in a long time. A long time indeed! Brings me back to those days in ol' NY a long time ago.

Sorry, but I digress...

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/14/2007 10:17:14 PM

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Well Petronius is from new york and about the right era... I thought I would revert my english to terminology he would understand... My bad I shouldnt do stuff like that

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/14/2007 10:18:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lothlauren

Well Petronius is from new york and about the right era... I thought I would revert my english to terminology he would understand... My bad I shouldnt do stuff like that

ROTFL!

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/14/2007 10:19:56 PM

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He's from NY? Whoa okay... got it... okay...

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/14/2007 10:23:19 PM

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LOL...and it suddenly becomes clear...

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/14/2007 11:19:08 PM

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Thank you Lockit, I already worked that out. Petronius is right, we don't share the same reality, I prefer mine. Right now I got enough sh*t on another thread to deal with, but as Lockit points out you make a posting in good faith. I come here to read and take part in what I assume will be adult discussions on various topics, not to get involved in slanging matches, hurling of insults and vendettas against individual users.

I don't know, maybe a break from this site would be a good thing. Take from it what you wish, but I value my dignity.

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/15/2007 12:05:14 AM

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Soooo, if I were a cyber stalker how would I operate? Oh I might check up on the postings of those I was stalking. Then if they started a thread somewhere that began to generate workable suggestions I just might do my best to discredit both the OP and any respondents who came up with any kind of any kind of help. Of course I would make a lot of unfounded accusations while trying to sound "scientific" without actually providing any proof myself. Maybe I could justify my lack of proof by saying something like, "I'm not going to do your work/research for you." I would be sure to ignore or try to discredit any proofs offered by others that might support the OP. I'd make really long verbose posts with lots of quotes out of context to respond to so that I could confuse the issues and maybe alter the thread topic to my liking.
Oh yeah, I'd make sure to never ever show my face in my profile on the same site and might begin that profile with a sentence that sounds innocent and compelling unless it is viewed as the words of a cyber stalker and then takes on a whole new meaning. There wouldn't be any personal details in that profile that could pin me down to any identity, only relatively innocuous likes and dislikes that are supposed to make me seem smart and open without saying anything. However even those might reveal obsessions and fixations of the sort that stalkers are known to have. You know, like fixations on sadistic behavior or setting goals for myself that are wayyyyyy out of line for those with a more mainstream psyche. Okay, so I'm not a qualified shrink, none-the-less sometimes you don't have to be a shrink to spot questionable behavior. Of course if I were a stalker type I would likely see my profile as written perfectly to ensnare victims and not an indication in any way of my true nature. Good thing we stalker types all know submissives are gullible and incapable of reading between the lines. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, as a hypothetical cyber stalker I'd likely choose to live in a really big urban area where the sheer volume of people would help me fade into the crowd to avoid detection. It's lots harder after all to hide in a small town where you actually have to speak to the neighbors once in a while and interact with a smaller group of populace who might due to proximity in a smaller geographic area, run into me more often requiring me to act "normal" a lot more often than I want to. It's a lot easier to hide in anonymity in a big city. That would let me spend a lot more time concentrating on stalking others while hiding out entirely.

So what do you think Lockit? Do I have a future as a stalker? Oh wait, I just remembered, I like human contact on an intimate and caring personal level. Oh well, guess that blows my stalker career. Too bad there are some who are still qualified.

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/15/2007 3:44:26 AM

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greetings

i am so sorry you having this crazy man do this to you. i wish i has listen to my niece the sister of the woman who stole all of the brother checks and accounts. i do believe you i never thought i would go through what i have and still going through with this woman. i cry each night and wonder and oh yes i gotten a laywer a good one . i understand the fear and the oh the pain this has cause you, i remember when i wrote about my problem with my niece and everyone here was so cold i am gald they are standing strong for you and i hope they can do something with him what a nut please take care and keep safe.

mons hope you will be back soon

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/15/2007 6:29:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf (RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/14/2007 8:33:01 PM , p. 10)

Dude you need to do your own research. Here is what has been refered to:

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"We recently learned of a buffer overflow security issue in an ActiveX control. This control is part of the code for webcam image upload and viewing. Upon learning of this issue, we began working towards a resolution and expect to have a fix shortly," said Terrell Karlsten, a Yahoo spokesman. "

The entire article can be found here http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9726594-7.html

It can also be found on many other ISS forums and sites.

You do not have to be a genius to do alot of this "hacker" stuff, because the real hackers/programmers will make it into a nice little program that all you have to do is install and run. Is where the term "kiddie" hacker came from.

Orion

On the good side, first, if you want to document a security problem you do it the way OriontheWolf did (and Lothlauren did earlier.) You don't wave your arms about and point to something like the Microsoft web site as others had done.

O. claims the bug he documented was "what was referred to." I see no evidence for this at all. My recollection is that the discussion has been marked by rather wild claims of dangers. Somebody mentioned that the passive viewing of a web cam could open your system.

I don't see evidence that the person's generic statement was in any way to be traced to the particular bug that O. documented.

There are also bugs that are of purely academic interest. They're never exploited because while exploitation is theoretically possible, the complexity of using them or the time required is astronomical.

I'm not saying the bug O. documented is one of these. But there is no code that uses it and never has been. That, at least, is my reading of the statement "Currently, no zero-day exploits exist, Maiffret [founder of eEye who discovered the problem] said...."(1.)

eEye's description of the problem doesn't mention web cams, at least as presented by the earlier article. Rather the company writes "Multiple flaws exist within Yahoo! Messenger which allow for remote execution of arbitrary code with minimal user interaction."(2.)

O. is also quite correct to state that some security problems don't require one to be a high-level hacker because others who are have released programs to breach the security. That's indeed where the "'kiddie' hacker" came from. It's also where the phrase "cookbook kiddie" came from (referring to new hackers who had collected a series of programs or instructions (the 'cookbook') to utilize the flaws.

But O. was quite wrong when he wrote that I "had to do my own research." I didn't make the claim about web cams; somebody else did. It isn't up to me to research their claim; it is up to them to present the results or evidence.

1. Dawn Kawamoto, "Yahoo IM hit with critical security flaws," Newsblog, June 6, 2007
http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9726594-7.html

2. http://research.eeye.com/html/advisories/upcoming/20070605.html

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/15/2007 7:04:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68 (RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/14/2007 8:38:31 PM , p. 10

Maybe Petronius is your stalker.

Aileen68's suggestion or supposition isn't defamation but is certainly a scurrilous form of behavior.

The technique she uses isn't unique to c.m. or this thread. It is routinely used to discredit people. It often comes with a built-in form of denial, e.g. "I never said John Kerry was a Communist. I said 'maybe' he was a Communist."

So it is with Aileen68 and her "supposition" that "Maybe Petronius is your stalker."

Now it is particularly scurrilous by Aileen68 to raise this issue of criminality in this particular fashion.

That's because the very claims by Lockit prove I couldn't be the stalker.

I am here on c.m.; the stalker is not, at least according to Lockit's views.

As Lockit wrote in the first post that opened this thread: "He seems not to get into a site like this or my online carrier email because they might do more than hotmail or yahoo. I see no signs of him here...."

But, hey! What's a little scurrilous behavior among friends, especially when it's so damn deniable as an innocent (or sarcastic) suggestion?

If she's serious about her concerns -- as opposed to merely scurrilous -- shouldn't she run to c.m. moderators and tell them there may be a stalker on the board?

If she's serious shouldn't she try to warn dominant women that they might get stalked?

Shouldn't she really show she's concerned about the health and safety of innocent people in danger from some nefarious criminal like me?

Or should she just take cheap and not very creative shots?

And God forbid that I even think of such a "slanderous" word as "paranoia!"

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RE: Maybe leaving CM.. A warning - 7/15/2007 7:44:41 AM

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My post was said tongue in cheek. If you've been around the forums enough you'd have known that was my style of writing.

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