CuriousLord
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Abortion, the act of destroying offspring in the mother's womb, is under a lot of controversy. The argument is often about mortality and ethics- is it right or not?
Could you be a little it more general in your introduction? You dwell on specifics far too much.
No, I feel it's better to be overly specific, thus cutting one's self off from the majority of the topic right away.
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The offspring's life or the mother's decision?
The mother's decision to what?
The mother's right to decide to abort or not.
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Why, one might consider, do we not simply kill orphans? Such kills would likely be benificial to society, rooting out those that would likely live a hard and service-consuming childhood when there are plenty of children in the world already. While a particular orphan might be the one to invent a cure to cancer, the same could be said for another child to be born to take his place, as the typical orphan is no more advantaged than the typical non-orphan. Perhaps, less so.
How does killing orphans benefit society? Please explain.
I did. Reread it.
Incase you still can't get it, some lives are less priveledged than others. This does not mean that they can not excell to the same limits, just that they are not as likely to. Killing kids who have problems- such as those confined to wheelchairs- would, in a sense, benifit society. There are other consquences of such morality, though, as the Argument goes on to discuss.
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Why, then, do we care to try one for murder, should one do such a thing, if it would be practical? Two somewhat similar arguments seem to come into play. The first would be that, it would condone what might be considered murder to some (in the contemporary, most). Still, should murder be appended with "not applicable to orphans", this wouldn't be a problem. In the same way, many, a number of which are often associated with "pro-choice", would have "murder" appended "not applicatable to unborn".
I'm sure there is lots of thoughts behind the adverbs: I assure you though that the written word is supposed to convey meaning. It reads like you're enjoying the sound of your own voice, and little else. As a matter of fact...
Again, you're being immature.
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As this would be an argument of definitions for mental considers in the vague, this could be a valid argument to consider, though a messy one that few might be able to follow.
... your prose literally reads like you translated something into english using a dodgey online translation tool. I give up here because your post is too meaty, too manly, too male for me, Lordy. And this is what pisses me off with your ilk: you are condescending towards others, and in this particular postering of yours it is more obvious than ever. Not once do you address the subject from the point of view of a woman. The person who is, after all, the first sentient being that is concerned. I think you're scared of women.
Actually, the "considers" should be "considerations". That is a careless typo, so you did find one thing. Still, though, you're being a brat. On the off chance you legitimately find difficulty reading English, you have my sympathies, though I'd ask you not take such difficulties to mean that the lack is on the part of the speaker.
Am I posturing? No. I couldn't care less. Am I condescending? To you, especially. Am I arrogant? While I feel I'm just being straightforward, honest, and blunt- you can see it this way. It's entirely true I do not respect you as an intelligent human being. This view, though, is warrented from your behavior; it is not one I've adopted hapharzardly. Nonetheless, you are a human, and allotted the courtesies of such- I'll treat you with some semblence of decency. Not respecting your intelligence doesn't mean I have to hate you. To some degree or another, I can sympathize with the threatened reaction you display, even if I do not condone it.
Of course, you are free to rant on about how you think those against abortion and such are actually, themselves, afraid. In some cases, you may even be right. Still, I think you're failing to consider things honestly, just going with what makes you feel superior.
On this note, I will continue to simply dismiss you as immature so long as you persist in such as manner that I deem childish.
< Message edited by CuriousLord -- 7/17/2007 4:03:42 PM >
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.....bravo, Level. Beautifully said. That's the problem seen so often on the forums - people refusing to even SEE another's point or attempt to understand why they believe as they do. If you don't agree, bully for you. But, damn, at least have the intelligence to see another's point and realize they have as much right to it as you do yours. 
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