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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/21/2006 6:58:33 AM   
thetammyjo


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Doesnt the mateernal aspect of having a baby give the Domme a fulfillment of motherhood?


I'm a Domme. I do not feel very maternal. I do not want children, at least not at this point in my life and it's a matter of weeks for my 33rd birthday. I don't think that will be changing anytime soon. Do I like kids? Of course. Especially when I can give them back to their parents.

Please don't assume that all women want/need to take care of a child.

- LA


Exactly.

I like my house of three adulta but....

My husband is also a part-time or ocassional adult-baby but we do not scene together or explore that part of him together. He's had a few other partners and he actually runs a monthly munch for adult babies that meet either in our town or a bit north depending on who emails in to say they are attending.

I also think LadyAngelika's above statement about caring for babies is very telling. I frankly do not see the adultbaby-mommy role playing as femdom. I think if you are really role-playing a baby, the baby is pretty much the one in charge -- their needs take first priority over anything the adults want.

I wonder if adult babies might have more luck finding partner if they looked for service tops or for submissives to fulfill that mommy role.

Of course, I wonder this about shoe fetishes who want to see their female partner in high heels or other clothing fetishes who want to see it on the other -- why is it submissive to see items on another person? If another person is wearing something to feed your fetish I think that is as easily the wearing being the submissive as not.

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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/21/2006 7:07:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

Well if I took a slave on I'd want him to help me cook and clean and be my driver to events since I can't drive.


if you're a baby helpless and dependant on mommy, how do you see cooking and cleaning and driving me around for me? Subs would babies wouldn't.

In a domme sub relationship, it's not about the subs wants, his wants are not always very important. It's what the mistress decides sh ould happen. Subs don't have the right to be played with or the right to privacy or the right to be tied up. They get the PRIVILAGES the domme wants to give themThe ab is all about I want I need me me me, I need to be taken care of I need diapers I need.......


A domme isn't there to cater your needs you're there to cater TO HER.


Subs have way higher expectations of them. I'd be seriously irritated if my sub whined or cried at me because he didn't like my orders, An adult baby has by the nature of the role, the expectation to act in ways babies would. If I told a sub to do something and he didn't feel like doing it right away now because he was coloring, that wouldn't be acceptable.


You couldn't honestly realistically expect an AB to be prompt right away yes ma'am because you said so


Wonderfully said and your words reflect a lot of what I feel, FelinePersuasion.

Now I could see an adult baby identifying as a bottom since at least in my mind bottom means the person "done to" and certainly babies have much done to them simply because they can't do it themselves. But I also see top/bottom is very different from sub/dom and slave/owner relationships.

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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/21/2006 7:17:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

I myself have been waiting to see a Baby DOM. I'd like to see a profile with a person in a diaper, passaphier, bib, head piece and the quote is "Change my diaper BITCH!" The profile can then go on about needing to be fed, bathed, and clothed. I wonder how many hits the profile would get?


Well, I don't do the baby thing but I can be a very demanding "5" year old from time to time and Fox plays the very concerned "daddy" how jumps to cater his spoiled princess at every second. But that's just role-playing for fun.

It isn't our lifestyle -- that's slave-owner. Yes, even 24/7 folks do role-playing to add variety to things.

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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/21/2006 7:31:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lilbabyboy4u

To all the Dommes.Doms,and Mistresses Maams that applied to my post:)
I have never said I was a sub/slave and all I have gotten mostly is being told no Domme would ever consider having an adult baby because it is too much work:)
I am not the perfect adult baby but I truly am not a sub/slave.
I was just asking if someone could tell me the differance of an AB and an sub/slave.
I enjoy everything there is about being an adult baby but that doesnt mean I do not enjoy an adult life.
What I am trying to say is I have a babys heart and feelings toward people and have a strong need for a mommys love and parental control in my life.
The very first posts said something very true, this is nothing new to me I have lived it and it makes up who I really am.
I am an infantilist, not a sub/slave, and I understand why the adult baby isnt accepted in the scene of bdsm. I thought giving up complete control to the Domme and being dependant on her only and being obedient as a child at all times was something a Domme wanted.
I do appreciate all what has been said and all who wrote upon this subject .
Being an infantilist is very real, the desires are very real .
enuff said:)


I think if you reread your post here you'll actually find the answer to your questions.

You are an infantilist, not a submissive or a slave.

Why then are you looking to female dominants?

Wouldn't you have better luck if you looked to women who identify as tops or submissives or even just mommies?

If you wanted to know the difference between AB and sub/slave then I think your answers thus far should also have indicated that there is a big difference between a mommy, a femdom, and female top or female submissive.

Finding a partner is not just about our own needs and desires and our stereotypes. It is also about finding the appropriate venue or audience to search in. It takes time to find the right venue and I would say that given the responses that "Ask a Mistress" was not the right forum. Perhaps there isn't a right forum on Collarme.com? That might mean your target audience is elsewhere.

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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/21/2006 7:45:02 AM   
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Reading through the posts, and the responses from the OP, I have to say it doesn't look like there's a real question posed, as much as the OP trying to tell everyone that "his" fetish interest must be accepted by Dommes because of his pleasure in it.

People I know run the local AB/DL group here, and in an effort to support them in their community efforts, I went to a party of theirs a few years ago, that they combined with a FemDom theme. I think there were only two "Mommies" there, maybe 20 babies (almost all men, playing little girls), and I was the only FemDom present. NONE of my FemDom friends would attend, and it had no bearing on the couple running the group, as much as the theme presented was not their interest.

The "babies" had the most wonderful time at the party, and I'll admit that it was interesting to see their dynamic at work (and play), but I would never partake of an interest in it myself, as it's just not my interest. PERIOD! (I did meet a playmate there, but it was totally outside the AB area when we enjoyed a scene, with no diapers allowed. We no longer saw each other after he disrespected the rules and came diapered to the club. Yet another case of "my interest" [his] being more important than respecting the parameters we "both" agreed upon.)

You can't expect "every" woman to enjoy what you enjoy, regardless if it's age play, diapers, blood play etc. It's YOUR interest...so find someone that shares that interest, and don't expect "everyone" to play along.

I think it's a poor explanation, or excuse to say "you don't understand me" or "you don't understand the fetish," just because someone doesn't partake of your interest. Some of us actually know what we like...and don't like!

People do certain things because of pure enjoyment and pleasure. They don't do other things...because...they don't want to....and there's no rule that sez they have to. We all have choices. This is not "judging" someone's fetish interest. This is making a choice.

I'm very good with children, but would NEVER be motherly with a grown man. I am not the "Mommy" type and I feel if a "man" wants a mommy...he can go home to her, to be nurtured.

You can't shove a fetish down someone's throat, or pants...OR diaper.

K



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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/21/2006 1:15:40 PM   
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With all due respect, I don't see anyone shoving anything at anyone. I also don't think you can juge what an adult baby is all about just from what you saw at a play party. I'm certain that if I was to judge a submissive that I watched at a BDSM play party, I would be seeing a very different sub from what I would see in their day to day life. I think that with most fetishes or life styles, a play party isn't the best way to judge what the life style is all about. It would be like going to a child's birthday party and watching what they do and eat, then assuming that is what they do and eat all the time.

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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/22/2006 5:01:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Pinkpottiepants

I also don't think you can juge what an adult baby is all about just from what you saw at a play party.


I have not "judged" what an AB is "all about," but rather that what I do know...I know it's not for me. There's a difference.

I also specifically pointed out in my post, that I was NOT judging someone's fetish interest, but rather making a choice...a choice for myself.

K

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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/22/2006 5:21:27 AM   
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You may have typed in your message that you were not judging and that you were just expressing your likes and dislikes, but the body of your message said otherwise. Giving an example of a play partner that you met at the event, who later broke his word to you, clearly stated how you feel about this fetish. Clearly he wasn't the first to break his word to you and likely won't be the last, so mentioning that only severed to foster the negative feelings towards adult baby play. Also mentioning that most in your play community wouldn't attend a play party because of the theme also speaks volumes of your true feelings. I agree that we all have a choice to play the way we want to play and that we can't impose our choices on others, but you would think that if there was anywhere that you could find an understanding mind towards this fetish, it would be in the fetish community.

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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/22/2006 5:48:41 AM   
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You may have typed in your message that you were not judging and that you were just expressing your likes and dislikes, but the body of your message said otherwise. Giving an example of a play partner that you met at the event, who later broke his word to you, clearly stated how you feel about this fetish. Clearly he wasn't the first to break his word to you and likely won't be the last, so mentioning that only severed to foster the negative feelings towards adult baby play. Also mentioning that most in your play community wouldn't attend a play party because of the theme also speaks volumes of your true feelings. I agree that we all have a choice to play the way we want to play and that we can't impose our choices on others, but you would think that if there was anywhere that you could find an understanding mind towards this fetish, it would be in the fetish community.



People break their word all the time, no matter what "group" they are lumped into. I certainly didn't take it as a condemnation of all ABs as being untrustworthy.

"Understanding" is indeed a must, including being understanding that your fetish isn't for everyone. I think you're taking a Domme saying "hey, this is not for me" way too personally.



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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/22/2006 5:49:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Pinkpottiepants
Also mentioning that most in your play community wouldn't attend a play party because of the theme also speaks volumes of your true feelings. I agree that we all have a choice to play the way we want to play and that we can't impose our choices on others, but you would think that if there was anywhere that you could find an understanding mind towards this fetish, it would be in the fetish community.


You are correct that I clearly stated how I feel about the fetish! I did not hide my true feelings, nor do I ever!

As for "your" fetish interest...why is it that "I" (and others) "must" accept it, or even work to "understand" it, if it's of no interest to me (us)? I understand your desire for it.

"Not" attending an AB function is not discriminating against that group. A concentrated group, with a VERY specific and narrow focused theme is targeting the specific group of folks that enjoy that particular fetish. AB groups, draw a group of AB enthusiasts. Others don't "have" to attend, just by default of having an interest in other, or general BDSM related activities. ABs are not discrimated from attending other BDSM community events. We all choose what to enjoy.

The "understanding" here then, is that people have choices.
K

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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/22/2006 6:01:43 AM   
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Also mentioning that most in your play community wouldn't attend a play party because of the theme also speaks volumes of your true feelings.

Okay, so would you go to a Candlelight party when you have plenty of candles, and have no interest in buying more? She didnt want to go because it wasnt her thing. Its not my thing. Yes, I know enough about it to know that it holds no interest for me. Why would I waste an evening going somewhere where I didnt want to be? The OP didnt precisely ask a question, Lady Angelika was polite and never once said that it was wrong, bad, etc, just that it wasnt her thing. The fact that FTopinMichigan related a story says nothing about her feelings regarding the fetish. It says she did meet someone at that party, who she no longer sees. The simple fact is that this fetish isnt for everyone, just as blood isnt, and for those of us that arent into it, you'll have a hard time convincing us to the otherwise. The "dont knock it til you try it' argument only goes so far when we are replying that its not our thing, but if its yours, okay. No less than 4 Dommes have stated that although it does nothing for them, its okay that it does it for you, however, several ABs seem to take offense that these Dommes arent into thier kink. So? Move on, and find one that is. Someone (I would look up the name, but its on a previous page, and I dont want to lose what I have typed) gave some great tips for broaching the subject in a new relationship. I think that goes a great distance for speaking up for the AB crowd than whining.


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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/22/2006 6:01:57 AM   
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How else is one supposed to take some of the comments made toward those who have an interest in adult baby play. Read the first couple of responses to this string again and you will see what I mean. We aren't whole people is what one Domme stated. We aren't truly submissive and on and on it goes as the string of replies keep coming. If it's not for you, we all can understand that, but many of the replies clearly pass judgement and that was my reason for speaking up.

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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/22/2006 6:06:41 AM   
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quote:

We aren't truly submissive and on and on it goes as the string of replies keep coming. If it's not for you, we all can understand that, but many of the replies clearly pass judgement and that was my reason for speaking up.



So write a convincing arguement as to why you think it is submissive if you disagree with those that think it isn't. The OP stated himself that he was not submissive in a later post. Present another point of view for discussion ~ which is what this is. Some people will disagree with you, some people will agree.

Of course people pass judgement. You do it. I do it. It's human nature.



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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/22/2006 6:33:18 AM   
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I was referring to the words of BeachMistress, not the reply you mentioned. As for me to argue that all those who are into AB play are true submissives would be just as silly as it would be to argue that all who claim they would do anything for a Mistress actually would. You can't make a general statement about anything. Everyone should be judged for what they really are, not from what they are precised to be based on someone stereotype. The only thing that I will say, is that I was introduced to AB play by a Mistress that I served. I didn't question her reasons for diapering me, it wasn't my place to do so and it didn't effect me from serving her from that point on. It only added another aspect to our relationship.

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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/22/2006 6:50:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Pinkpottiepants

How else is one supposed to take some of the comments made toward those who have an interest in adult baby play. Read the first couple of responses to this string again and you will see what I mean. We aren't whole people is what one Domme stated. We aren't truly submissive and on and on it goes as the string of replies keep coming. If it's not for you, we all can understand that, but many of the replies clearly pass judgement and that was my reason for speaking up.


I'm a very open-minded guy. "Live and let live", "Whatever floats your boat". "Different strokes for different folks", and any other cliche you want to insert here. You get the idea.

I'm certainly not a Domme, nor into age play. I have read this thread and what has been most aggravating to me has been the insistence of the OP, and subsequently others taking up the same stance, that despite the fact the Domme's replying are NOT interested. (To clarify what not interested means. Well it means they don't want to be involved. They don't want to do it. It's OK for you if you like it but they want no part of it.) To repeat: That despite the fact the Domme's replying are NOT interested, the AB's keep insisting that the Domme's SHOULD be interested and that the AB is not leaving until they ARE interested.

Get that? They're not interested in AB, but are continually pressed to be interested. They are ignored when they, again and again, point out they are not interested. Now you get a bit huffy because FTopinMichigan and a few of the others demeanor is somewhat less than pleasant. They are tired of having their long, well-written, responses be completely ignored.

Face it, you would be too.

Show them a little respect. Read what they say, accept their right to live how they see fit. Then you might get a bit more respect thrown back at you. Simple really.


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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/22/2006 7:03:24 AM   
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I am not asking anyone to become interested in adult baby play or age play. I was merely pointing out that so many Mistresses weren't just speaking negatively about the subject, or expressing their own like or dislike for it. They were speaking about what type of people do like it, without actually getting to know anyone who does play in it.

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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/22/2006 8:42:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lilbabyboy4u

I thank you for the replys Maams and I am listening.
Why does an adult with baby tendancies have to
be classified as an unusual person when all is
wanted is a mommy or daddy to love them?
When I am in diapers I feel secure and loved not from the fact that I am using them and get turned on by being wet and dirty?
I am really confused though.
Dommes want their slave/sub to be reduced to nothing more than a child and be
obedient to their every word , but they cant talk an adult and transform him to their baby because it is repulsive to them?
If the Dommes cant care for the baby/slave/sub then they should not take the to the point of total surrender!!
What more is a slave/sub than an adult wanting to be loved and cared for as the DEommes baby?
Isnt TPE a factor in a Domme mommy/baby relationship?
A Domme has complete control over her slave/sub but an adult baby she thinks they control her when in reality they need more controling than the slave/sub.
Please tell me what is the diff between a slave/sub and a baby except the fact that an adult baby is unusual?




Whew! What a whiner!

Just for that I'm taking away your pacifier, putting you in your crib, turning off the light and leaving you there until you're quiet.

Texas Maam

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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/22/2006 11:48:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TeeGO
Now you get a bit huffy because FTopinMichigan and a few of the others demeanor is somewhat less than pleasant. They are tired of having their long, well-written, responses be completely ignored.


Thanks for supporting the idea that we all have opinions, TeeGO, but I didn't realize that my own posts were coming off as "less than pleasant." I've only posted my opinion, and I hardly think it should be construed as a harsh one, or even brought to the board in some unpleasant way. I just stated how I felt. I think you're reading too much into it.

As for Pink...he's just trying to get his point across, even though most of us get what he's saying. He needs to say it again, as he's defending his interest. No problem with that!

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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/22/2006 3:07:15 PM   
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OK, I crossed up your post with some others. But even still you did come across as being a bit annoyed with the OP and his incessant refusal to accept the opinions that had been expressed to him at least FOUR times. To me, the OP was as annoying as hell.

And Pink needs to get the point that the "attitude" he picked up on was not a dissing of AB's but rather the OP's refusal to read. I would be the last person in the world to diss another's predilection. But jumping on somebody being annoying is something else.

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RE: adult babies--- real and very much a lifestyle!! - 1/24/2006 6:10:05 AM   
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Haven't met a baby Dom yet, but i was in a scene with a Domme who played the older sadistic sister to my 4 yr old.




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ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

I myself have been waiting to see a Baby DOM. I'd like to see a profile with a person in a diaper, passaphier, bib, head piece and the quote is "Change my diaper BITCH!" The profile can then go on about needing to be fed, bathed, and clothed. I wonder how many hits the profile would get?


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