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RE: how do you enforce disaplin - 8/14/2007 3:33:49 PM   
Gwynvyd


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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

It is quite simple really.  You discipline yourself to become the sort of man she will follow and obey, in short,  you lead.  Despite the lunacy of MrDiscipline44's post, you can't beat someone into obedience or submission, not as we use the term in bdsm.  You must make her want and need to obey and you must give her orders that she can and will obey.  Don't order her to fly or you are likely to be disappointed.  Don't order her to do something difficult without knowing that you may have to be patient in order to get her where you want her to be.

Think of training a wild horse, you don't throw that saddle on day one and expect to ride.  You also don't beat the horse in an attempt to break its spirit because then you end up with a broken horse, you WANT that spirit alive.  So you make it clear to the horse that   your will is stronger and more patient AND that if the horse submits its life will be better and happier.  Only when the horse understands that do you throw the saddle on and ride.

Submissives aren't horses nor are they children but creating a real d/s dynamic doesn't happen overnight, it grows because you nurture them, you show them how much happier they will be submitting to your will.  You do that be leading, by being disciplined, when they roll over on their backs offering sex you say no, not until X is done and done well, THEN you fuck the hell out of them or flog, torment, whatever. 

I would KILL to have my woman 80 miles away, she is 3,018 miles away across three time zones that take eight hours to fly across, so before anyone goes shitting on long distance relationships, think long and hard about it.


An enlightened person! Some one flag his acct, and give him kudos. See this is why folks should read the forums.. to weed out the goobers.. and see the real jems.  SM I hope your Girl finds a way to be near to you in person soon. You have a wonderful grasp on what it is to be not only a great Dom.. but it would seem a wonderful person.

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RE: how do you enforce disaplin - 8/14/2007 3:50:57 PM   
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This simple fact of the matter is, you cannot enforce discipline long distance.  The only thing you can do is hope that your partner is honest enough and has enough integrity to behave in the manner you find pleasing.  You should also make sure that you are honest enough and have enough integrity to inspire her to behave in the manner you find pleasing.


The simple fact of the matter is, you can enforce discipline at any distance.   You just have to be very creative.


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RE: how do you enforce disaplin - 8/14/2007 4:55:42 PM   
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um...can we request Oxford? (You know...that one that's in the library that's so big (thick, heavy, thuddy, oooh) that it requires its own table?



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ORIGINAL: bandit25

Not just its own table but a magnifying glass to boot!


Just to clarify, there are 2 editions of the Complete Oxford English Dictionary.  The Compact one is only one volume (although I have the very old, two volume edition).  It has printing SO small that it comes with a magnifying glass, and the pages are super thin.  One could use it (or one volume of the old one) for discipline if one were in good shape.

The regular edition, that has its own table at many libraries, is the 20-volume set.  It has lovely, thick, luxurious paper.  While you could use a single volume for discipline, I think it would be difficult to incorporate all 20 into a scene, although The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover had a less-than-consensual scene that might have involved it. 

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RE: how do you enforce disaplin - 8/14/2007 6:14:23 PM   
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I live about the same distance from my Master and only get to visit a couple times a month usually.He knows this is hard for me and doesnt ask too much of me when we are apart.But should he want something done (or not done) at any given time he expects me to obey.Not too long ago i was planning to go see him and the night before i didnt do as i was told.I was calmly told that if that was how i was going to behave i would not go to see him.The next couple of days i had a lot of time to think about how i had disappointed him.At first i was angry and had that fine if hes going to be that way i dont need him attitude.But after i had time to think i knew i was the one who was wrong and was glad he didnt stay online for me to argue with.It hurt even more knowing he is only disappointed when he knows i am capable of better.I got a little taste of how my life would be without him and saw that i will be punished even when the punishment hurts him as much as it does me.Maybe a weekend alone will give her time to think about why she wants to submit to you.

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RE: how do you enforce disaplin - 8/14/2007 7:36:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

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ORIGINAL: feastie

This simple fact of the matter is, you cannot enforce discipline long distance.  The only thing you can do is hope that your partner is honest enough and has enough integrity to behave in the manner you find pleasing.  You should also make sure that you are honest enough and have enough integrity to inspire her to behave in the manner you find pleasing.


The simple fact of the matter is, you can enforce discipline at any distance.   You just have to be very creative.



Oh, do educate me.  I'd love to hear how creativity can enforce discipline over a long distance.

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RE: how do you enforce disaplin - 8/14/2007 7:48:07 PM   
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Thats right. Because everyone is the same and what you propose is the only "true" way to do it. What a jackass.


Well, of course, there is multiple ways to do things.

For example, my slave could have a brain tumor and one "way" I could remove it is by doing surgery on my kitchen counter with a pocketknife as opposed to the other "way" of having a doctor do the surgery.

Doesnt mean though that one "way" is a good idea or advice.

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