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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/18/2005 2:15:00 AM   
onceburned


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ORIGINAL: lonewolf05
read #53 bro. maybe? MOST guys,....maybe.


Ah, but have you worn a chastity device for several months in a row??

Hey, today is the big day! Drive safe and keep in touch if you can. I hope this works out well for you.

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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/18/2005 4:49:58 AM   
LadyAngelika


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Status: offline 		I'm so happy that this thread has turned to the safety issues of chastity devices and the potential issues of lack of ejaculation, because that has not been discussed to death. <insert sarcastic eye roll>

Do you all remember what the original question was?

- LA

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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/18/2005 10:13:11 AM   
lonewolf05


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Status: offline 		no chris. i cannot wear devices because i do not have a scrotum that hangs down. any device that attaches behind there will fall off, if you even get it on to start with.
but, i was chained down, with my piercings, in calif.
so i believe i am qualified to answer, that i know what i am talking about lil dude.

wolf

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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/18/2005 12:40:58 PM   
BlkTallFullfig


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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
I'm so happy that this thread has turned to the safety issues of chastity devices and the potential issues of lack of ejaculation, because that has not been discussed to death. <insert sarcastic eye roll>
- LA

quote:

no chris. i cannot wear devices because i do not have a scrotum that hangs down. any device that attaches behind there will fall off, if you even get it on to start with.
but, i was chained down, with my piercings, in calif.
so i believe i am qualified to answer, that i know what i am talking about lil dude.
wolf

For some reason this is now the funniest thread on the boards to me... Maybe I'm not well rested enough, and need a nap. M

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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/18/2005 2:11:47 PM   
onceburned


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Status: offline 		LOL! Oh, but its not as funny as the castration thread when it was active. Anywho... I think we should drop this hijacking of the thread.

erm... what was the topic again?

quote:

For you Dommes that engage in non-sexual servitude or in which you render a man’s unit useless, what is in it for you? I’m interested in understanding.


Oh that is right. I will be quiet now.

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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/18/2005 2:36:15 PM   
GoddessDustyGold


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For you Dommes that engage in non-sexual servitude or in which you render a man’s unit useless, what is in it for you? I’m interested in understanding.


Again, I am back to defining non-sexual servitude. If a boy is living in, and I have an M/s relationship which does not allow literal sexual intercourse, a chastity device is the easiest way to not only control orgasm, but be a constant reminder of who owns the genitals. I realize I am speaking as a Domina who enjoys slaves as owned property.
But I don't ever want to render a man's unit useless. I have many ways I can use that piece of equipment for My personal pleasure, without involving actual intercourse. I also don't keep a boy in a device for long periods of time. He may be released for a few hours, and then put right back in, but that release time is for a specific purpose. And that specific purpose if for My pleasure. The perk to the boy is that it is pleasurable for him also. This is another reason I do not care for milking. Milking can be very pleaurable for some boys, but it is not the same as a full blown orgasm. And there can be a lot of teasing leadng up to that "release the cock from the cage".

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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/18/2005 3:09:24 PM   
stormsfate


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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

I'm so happy that this thread has turned to the safety issues of chastity devices and the potential issues of lack of ejaculation, because that has not been discussed to death. <insert sarcastic eye roll>

Do you all remember what the original question was?

- LA



My apologies, LadyA....


best regards,
fate


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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/18/2005 7:22:08 PM   
TiNeedsHouseboy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

I'm so happy that this thread has turned to the safety issues of chastity devices and the potential issues of lack of ejaculation, because that has not been discussed to death. <insert sarcastic eye roll>

Do you all remember what the original question was?

- LA


To prevent further degradation of the thread, I sent a reply directly to your mail, referring to your initial post, and placing the dynamics within a framework. I thought long and hard (no pun intended) about whether to post here. Because we have someone who's hell bent on viewing the world only from narcissistic eyes, which is side-tracking the stream of thoughts, I decided to not provide any further kindling for his flames.

~ Ti ~

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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/18/2005 7:58:05 PM   
LadyAngelika


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ORIGINAL: TiNeedsHouseboy
To prevent further degradation of the thread, I sent a reply directly to your mail, referring to your initial post, and placing the dynamics within a framework.


Ti! If your answer is in direct response to the Original Post, then by all means, post it here (fyi - your email to me got truncated so I didn't even get to read it there)

And to the rest of you, thanks for getting back on track. I appreciate it.

- LA

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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/18/2005 9:32:52 PM   
lonewolf05


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Status: offline 		i will venture a guess out of the blue it is aimed at me.........


sorry i interrupted You.

ok
back to discussion..

wolf

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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/18/2005 9:55:42 PM   
onceburned


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Status: offline 		Hey Wolf, I thought you were going to be on the road today! Did she make another delay?

Edit:
oops... that will be tomorrow. (I just saw your other post)

Have fun!

< Message edited by onceburned -- 7/18/2005 10:08:09 PM >

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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/19/2005 7:48:35 AM   
handyslave


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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika


So here is my question. For you Dommes that engage in non-sexual servitude or in which you render a man’s unit useless, what is in it for you? I’m interested in understanding.

- LA


This is a very interesting thread...and certainly a topic worth discussing. There is no denying the fact that orgasm denial, male chastity, etc are very popular. (You have only to look at the Yahoo groups devoted to the subject)

I have a keen interest in the topic and have found some resources that I think are very good and certainly ring true to me. One of them is "Sexual Power for Women," a book by Georgeann Cross that can be found at: http://home.earthlink.net/~francescaspizza/SPFW.pdf

There's another book for sale on the Net (that I can't seem to find at the moment) that is a very good description of orgasm control. I think the name of the book is "Wrapped Around Her Finger" and sells for about $15.

I'm interested in what others think about these books.

hs

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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/19/2005 7:58:24 AM   
handyslave


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ORIGINAL: handyslave


There's another book for sale on the Net (that I can't seem to find at the moment) that is a very good description of orgasm control. I think the name of the book is "Wrapped Around Her Finger" and sells for about $15.


I hate leaving things hanging (well...not always! ) so I found the link to the book, "Around Her Finger" by Ken Addison. You can find it at: http://books.lulu.com/content/36837

Happy Reading!

hs

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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/19/2005 4:15:16 PM   
LadyAngelika


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There is no denying the fact that orgasm denial, male chastity, etc are very popular. (You have only to look at the Yahoo groups devoted to the subject)


Orgasm denial and control, sure. I don't use it that much but I can see from the posts that other Dommes have made on this thread how it can be fun and effective.

Now long term chastity is very popular among many male slaves... what I'm trying to understand is if it's as popular amongst FemmeDommes. So far, doesn't look like it.

- LA

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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/19/2005 9:04:50 PM   
TiNeedsHouseboy


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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

Now long term chastity is very popular among many male slaves... what I'm trying to understand is if it's as popular amongst FemmeDommes. So far, doesn't look like it.



On this thread, among CollarMe Message Board "natives," it appears that it's NOT getting the big thumbs up from the Domme contingent. The question remains whether the results would change if we were able to poll all female dominant CollarMe members.... plus, would results differ if we added in female Switches?

One of the challenges we're facing here is that -- as with any group -- we have a handful of active participants, and a whole boodle of passive readers, who never say what they think.... plus a whole bunch of CollarMe people who never read online bulletin boards. It's simply the nature of groups. In other words, we're dealing with a biased sample because of inability to get a sense of what "everyone" thinks.

In a more "homogeneously focused" group, you'd get an alternate perception. Two examples:

* A Yahoo group targeted at sissy husbands, moderated by a Domme married to a sissy maid. Chastity and cuckolding are deemed desirable. I'm withholding the group's name because IMO, there are too many posts from its moderator/Domme which I perceive as infuriating, misguided, and at times, in violation of SSC notions. I find myself questioning whether she's writing what she really believes and practices, or simple fabricating wanking material for the group's many sissies. I was having a good "larf" when a European sub told me off-group that he had many qualms about the moderator's "guidance" and perceptions, and had decided to yank her chain for a bit.

* Direct from Portugal, by way of Great Britain, with FemDom at its core -- though BDSM'ers of every conceivable walk comprise its international membership of some 7,000 readers -- we have regularly recurring chastity discussions in DOMestic, edited into a daily digest. It's owned/moderated by Christine and David, a wife/husband Domme/sub couple. Once upon a time, I was a regular reader and participant. As time dragged on, I noticed problems with content and membership participation dynamics, and moderator inability to handle it appropriately. What may not be evident to the casual or new reader is that DOMestic's digest is edited with a very pro-Christine editorial slant, to the exclusion of reality, at times. (Ducking from the rotten eggs and tomatoes tossed by devoted readers who pass through this thread.) Nevertheless, if you want to see chastity practices (among others) endorsed, subscriptions (free) are available at:

http://www.mschristine.com/freepage.html


~ Ti ~

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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/22/2005 4:25:07 PM   
mnp109


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Status: offline 		Just saw this thread and felt I needed to chime in as I enjoy chastity play but not so much in the conventional way. It seems to me that most male subs view chastity as a way to make themselves mroe femanine or as an extension of humiliation. I have found it impractical to be in chastity for a long period of time (i can't sleep in a belt, all though i wear one most of the time I'm awake.)

To me, I much more enjoy the feeling of arousal and horniess, a constant high if you will as opposed to the climax and collapse of an orgasm. You need an orgasm every once in a while though :)

A male sub locked in chastity is not worthless to the dom, but when used sparingly and correctly it can enforce the domme's will when they aren't together and help ensure a very attentive and desperate sub. When mixed with games deciding if and when the sub gets to orgasm, it becomes even more devilish.

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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/22/2005 7:14:53 PM   
TiNeedsHouseboy


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ORIGINAL: mnp109

...when used sparingly and correctly it can enforce the domme's will when they aren't together and help ensure a very attentive and desperate sub. When mixed with games deciding if and when the sub gets to orgasm, it becomes even more devilish.


I can see using one as a toy for a sub who's stuck on the road a lot.... but as for orgasms being used "sparingly," how does that fit with a Domme's need to fuck her sub's brains out -- repeatedly -- up to and including repeated ejaculations?

It's possible to keep males in states of perpetual excitement that don't peter out (pun intended) -- even with ejaculation. Been there. Done that. Have every intention of doing it again.

~ Ti ~

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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/25/2005 8:01:50 AM   
Hardbutt


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Status: offline 		I've been experimenting with building chastity devices for years now, and now have one that is comfortable and effective.

For traveling, it is very comforting to wear this for my lady as a way to show that I have no plans of playing while away. She liked that. I've been away for up to two weeks at a time, and although it can be very distracting to not even masturbate, it is very nice to not have to even consider any come-ons I got on the road. Temptation is removed, and my lady's iron hand is always gripping me to make me feel closer to home. That grip is a reminder that I am most valuable to someone who cares for me deeply and every hard-on reinforces that feeling!

There is no need for her to go without for chastity play to be effective. Anytime she wants, she can get the key and have her cock. Before leaving for work in the morning, it can go back on until she wants it again. Living in nearby towns and only getting together once or twice a week, the power of wearing a chastity and surrendering the key is exciting as it gets for my submissive feelings! A man likes to take care of things himself on a regular basis, becoming dependent on another for such basic feelings is a real tool for submission.

There is no reason for the woman keyholder to be denied anything she wants for chastity to be effective for her man. Just keep it on him whenever you are apart, and both can be happy.

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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/28/2005 4:22:33 PM   
Tusker


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Status: offline 		My female owner has no interest in putting "my member out of commission." But I do understand that while I carry it, she owns it, as well as me. I cum only with her permission. It would not occur to me to do otherwise. I am her very grateful, owned bitch.

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RE: To cum or not to cum, that is the question - 7/29/2005 11:04:41 PM   
LilyOR


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Status: offline 		In my last relationship, we played with chastity. We had both a plastic "the curve", and a locking chrome cock cage and cock ring. The curve was very effective at discouraging arousal because it's very uncomfortable when he got hard. I think it made him feel more submissive, which was a turn on for both of us, and I'd have him wear it, say, all day or in the evenings after work. However, we had to remove it to play because it caused abrasion if he got hard. This is where cage #2 comes in- the chrome one. I really liked seeing him come, but also loved making it very difficult for him to do so. The chrome chastity cage had variably sized cock rings that came with it. If I wanted to use it for real chastity, I'd have him wear the smaller one...very uncomfortable and tight, though, so only good short term. The larger ring was PERFECT for play because he could get hard in it without causing severe pain...only mild discomfort. The feeling of being in chastity WHILE we played was really hot for both of us...a constant tease for him..and he was actually able to cum , albeit with difficulty, with it on.

He was also VERY sweet and happy with chastity on. How could I resist?

Still...we never were into the "long term chastity" thing, nor extended orgasm denial. Neither of us found that much fun.

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