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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:02:28 AM

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There are a lot of men on this site, pretending to be women. Perhaps you are talking to a bunch of men.

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they stop responding (which I find extremely rude and ignores a very basic rule of respect for any Master, regardless if they own the sub/slave or not).

They probably find you rude. A sub/slave does not have to automatically respect you because you call yourself Master.
Grow up.

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:05:36 AM

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I don't know about that I have met several subs here and turned down meetings with several others....I think sometimes people forget that there are other things to converse about and that everyone on here has interestes other than their BDSM proclivities...Get to know people first and they might get to want to know you!

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:08:03 AM

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Thank you for the introspective and thoughtful response, SNSBBW. However, what I am stating with my brief introductory message - "establish control immediately" - is to establish control of the communications between the sub/slave and Myself. I would never expect immediate trust from a potential sub/slave. I DO, however, expect immediate RESPECT. That is a basic tennant of the Dom/sub as you should well know.

When I communicate with a potential sub/slave I ask them to express all of their needs, wishes and desires. I am completely open to whatever they feel is important to share. I explain that it is important for an exchange of expectations to determine if there is compatibility and a connection. I also explain that this is a process and takes time to arrive at a pont in time when SURRENDER actually takes place.

My approach is from a point of caring, safety, strength and control, which a potential sub/slave would recognize as desirable in a Master, IF they are SERIOUS about being collared and/or owned.

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:08:53 AM

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Get to know people first and they might get to want to know you!

I completely agree. Be an interesting person with varied interests outside of the lifestyle. Make the person curious about you and your life. Safe the gutter talk for later.

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:09:19 AM

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My take:

I do believe there are people that come online, come to munches, come to play parties etc with the terminologies and believe they want to be a sub or slave AS MUCH as those who come wanting to be a Dom or Domme or what ever top role out there. Things happen, lack of communication, kid in the candy store, getting in over your head that may make things get screwed up. When that happens they are are labeled as wannabes etc. It happens

There are also those who come online strictly for the entertainment and playing the roles in D/s is fun for them and sometimes they meet someone whose serious about it and it can be all bad.

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:10:49 AM

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well then you should clarify that. Like it or not, human beings have a tendency to assume alot of things that are said online.

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:15:19 AM

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Why does being Dominant mean You deserve any more respect than anyone else?

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:17:25 AM

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I DO, however, expect immediate RESPECT. That is a basic tennant of the Dom/sub as you should well know.

It's a basic tennant? Where do you get this stuff?

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:18:31 AM

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From your profile it appears that you like to be treated with alot of respect due to the fact that you have labelled yourself a 'Master' - (I'm not saying anything is wrong with this, whats right for some people isn't right for others), you mention how you like to be in control etc....maybe the submissives that are attracted to you in the first place are the sort that like this approach, maybe they like the idea of immediate control, then after speaking to you they see more of the ''nice, caring and loving guy' you profess to be and realise that this isn't what they are looking for. You invite questions from 'potential subs/slaves' which I imagine is to see if you are compatible, surely if conversation ceases, then this is giving you the answer... rejection does not make someone a 'wannabe'.

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:18:46 AM

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Ummm....huh?!? How can my original question come off as being "negative and jaded"? I merely asked what the experiences of the other Masters are with potential subs/slaves.

FYI - FAKE = used to describe a person who lies, pretends to be something they are not, does not have an opinion of their own or pretends to like things he or she does not

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:20:42 AM

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I am quite grown up, but thank you for the inspiring advice.

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:22:51 AM

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I am fascinated by your one-track mind. How did this get diverted in to a discussion about "gutter talk"??!!!!!?

The communications I initiate or to which I respond (if the sub/slave first contacts me), are specifically in reference to the sub/slave WANTING TO BE COLLARED OR OWNED!!! Oy vey!!

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:23:00 AM

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i have gleaned a lot of insightful information, and peeks into the minds and thoughts of others who share like interests, learning and taking away wisdoms and warnings from the experience of others who have been in simular situations....so will continue to read the message boards and use what i can and leave the rest,....for the most part i have not had the greatest of luck with CM as far as finding a local Dom, that wishes a commiment on both sides.

i have found quite a few men/boys that want prositute sex without having to pay for it or make a commitment, or wanting it all on the first meeting, because that is what their idea of a submissive is, a "suck/fuck upon command girl",...
.... what i would like to find is a Man, that i can call Sir, who has earned it by their actions, not just because they were born with a dangly between their legs... i am not a doni girl, and i don't wish to be treated as one.

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:24:41 AM

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Exactly! Thank you, this was my only point, in the original question. I only wanted to know if other Dom/Masters were having a similar experience.

Thanks!!

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:25:02 AM

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If you are immediately talking about collaring/owning, then you are probably scaring them off. Sensible people would want to get to know someone before jumping into that sort of stuff.

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:26:02 AM

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I DO, however, expect immediate RESPECT. That is a basic tennant of the Dom/sub as you should well know.
I know no such thing!!
Respect is earnt not immediately given.

"establish control immediately" - is to establish control of the communications between the sub/slave and Myself.
This doesn't work for me personally either. I wouldn't hand out my phone number, email or msn address straight away. I wouldn't respond well to being told we will speak at 6pm either. Communications at first need to be a two way street in all areas.

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:27:03 AM

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ORIGINAL: MasterA56

Thank you for the introspective and thoughtful response, SNSBBW. However, what I am stating with my brief introductory message - "establish control immediately" - is to establish control of the communications between the sub/slave and Myself. I would never expect immediate trust from a potential sub/slave. I DO, however, expect immediate RESPECT. That is a basic tennant of the Dom/sub as you should well know.

When I communicate with a potential sub/slave I ask them to express all of their needs, wishes and desires. I am completely open to whatever they feel is important to share. I explain that it is important for an exchange of expectations to determine if there is compatibility and a connection. I also explain that this is a process and takes time to arrive at a pont in time when SURRENDER actually takes place.

My approach is from a point of caring, safety, strength and control, which a potential sub/slave would recognize as desirable in a Master, IF they are SERIOUS about being collared and/or owned.

Respect is earned; courtesy for a dom/me should be a given.?

There I go, I am shoulding.

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:33:38 AM

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TRUST is earned.

RESPECT is a given...always...universally...for everyone!!

This is why the world is so full of hatred and anger. Because NO ONE has RESPECT for anyone.

Everyone has RESPECT for an elderly person walking down the street, whether they know them or not. A person doesn't stop an elderly person on the street and say, "You must EARN my respect!"

I respect any potential sub/slave that I initiate contact with or has initiated contact with me. This is part of the GOLDEN RULE!

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:36:56 AM

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ORIGINAL: MasterA56

TRUST is earned. True

RESPECT is a given...always...universally...for everyone!! False

This is why the world is so full of hatred and anger. Because NO ONE has RESPECT for anyone. False

Everyone has RESPECT for an elderly person walking down the street, whether they know them or not. A person doesn't stop an elderly person on the street and say, "You must EARN my respect!" False

I respect any potential sub/slave that I initiate contact with or has initiated contact with me. This is part of the GOLDEN RULE! Golden rule my ass !!

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RE: Wannabe subs/slaves pretending to want a Master - 10/15/2007 10:38:21 AM

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Yes, before I get flamed....I realize my comment was mis-written.

I should have written:

This is why there is so much hatred and anger in the world. Because there are MANY people who have NO RESPECT for others!

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