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RE: Serious Question - 10/20/2007 4:39:37 PM   
slaveluci


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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah
Spanking is NOT in and of itself a Sexual Act. It is a matter of Corporal Punishment

That is one opinion.  I beg to differ.  Spanking in my relationship is very sexual and never a matter of "punishment."  I get lots of spankings in a relationship where corporal punishment is never employed.  Just because it's not sexual for everyone doesn't mean it isn't always sexual for someone.............luci

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RE: Serious Question - 10/20/2007 4:43:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

Spanking is NOT in and of itself a Sexual Act. It is a matter of Corporal Punishment and to some people that in and of itself is either a sexual act or a vehicle to another act.


Generally I define things that make me wet and have the potential to make me orgasm as sexual.

Guess what spanking does?

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RE: Serious Question - 10/20/2007 4:46:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BIllCT
 
Isn't it a part of the scene that the Dom spanks the submissive who wants spanked and she gets sexually excited by it and so does he, and it leads to hot, sweaty sex in the end, or am I wrong?



~Isn't it a part of the scene that the Dom spanks the submissive who wants spanked~
no, sometimes a Dom spanks or doesn't
No: sometimes a Dom spanks a subnissive who doesn't 'want' to be spanked but he has decided she does
~and she gets sexually excited by it and so does he~
No: she gets an after glow, or an after sting, or anafter flow...depends on qualityof spank
No: sometimes there is just a pank, sometimes there is sexual arousal and sometimes there is full blown agony and ecstasy (believe me on this one ok?)
And so does he? No not unless she is toppin him from thr bottomin if you excuse the expression
~sex in the end, or am I wrong?~
Sex in the end of the what? of the rainbow, the world, the movie?
Have you any idea how many out takes there are here?

edited to remove any reference to sweaty sex
edited to say sometimes I get my spanking after the sex andI suppose it depends on how I served
edited to say sometimes spanking leads to hot sweaty sex


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RE: Serious Question - 10/20/2007 5:47:00 PM   
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Okay Spanking is NOT in and of itself sexual. If it was then spanking our child would be Pedophilia. Not to mention Sick and Twisted.

Spanking IS a form of Corporal Punishment. Portrayed in NUMEROUS child abuse and web sites. don't believe me? Type Corporal Punishment into ask.com and just review what you get.

This is NOT opinion it is Definition.

Wikopedia defines Corporal Punishment as:

Corporal punishment is forced pain intended to change a person's behaviour or to punish them. Historically speaking, most punishments, whether in judicial, domestic, or educational settings, were corporal in basis. History has many instances of corporal punishment.
In the Western world, corporal punishment has been largely rejected for crimes in favor of other disciplinary methods. Modern judiciaries often favor fines or incarceration, whilst modern school discipline generally avoids physical correction altogether.
However corporal punishment is still used in many domestic settings, though it has been banned in over seventeen countries.[1] Corporal Punishment in Canada is restricted to children under the age of 13, and only by parents or guardians, and only such punishment that does not leave marks.

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That being said what we do as KINK is Modified by the setting of Masochistic inate behaviours or expressed ones. The point here is that instead of the usual behavioral modification that spanking was supposed to imbed today you recieve pleasure from being spanked.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS!!!!!!

My point originally was only that Spanking as an act is not in and of itself SEXUAL. It can be but it is due to the individual NOT the act.

Ultimatly the REASON it is sexual for you, is because YOU find it sexual. Not everyone does. Pigeon Holeing a Kink as being one thing to everyone is wrong.

So if you get off on being spanked and wanna get fu**ed after then do us all a favor and give this poor guy a call and meet him for drinks, a little slap and tickle, and help the world be a better place for one evening.

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RE: Serious Question - 10/20/2007 6:17:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

Wow and the Point of my post was lost like the lunches of people who ride the Viper in Reverse.

Cute but not true at all.  I got your point.  I offered a different view.  No harm, no foul.
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Spanking IS a form of Corporal Punishment

True.  Just not a form employed in my relationship.  That's all I said.  I know the definition of what "spanking" is.  However, I think most folks would agree that the definition many of us have for it can vary from something used to "punish."  It can punish, sure.  But it doesn't have to.  That was my point which must have gotten lost with yours.
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Ultimatly the REASON it is sexual for you, is because YOU find it sexual

Yes, indeedy!
quote:

Not everyone does

No, indeedy!
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Pigeon Holeing a Kink as being one thing to everyone is wrong

Not as wrong as say, murder, but yeah, I don't think it's appropriate.  Neither do I think it's appropriate to assume a guy is a wanker because he insists on having some sex with his spanking.  NOT saying anyone specifically used that word but some rather looked down their noses at his ideas about this, I thought.
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So if you get off on being spanked and wanna get fu**ed after then do us all a favor and give this poor guy a call and meet him for drinks, a little slap and tickle, and help the world be a better place for one evening

Somehow I don't think "all" who read this would feel it would be doing them a favor to do so.  I think that's pretty insulting, actually as anyone who's read these forums more than a day or two should know that both Aqautic and myself are very committed to our own dom's and have no desire to go get slapped and ticked by a stranger (or at least I don't) simply because we happen to agree with a post of his.  Wow, why so irritated?................luci

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RE: Serious Question - 10/20/2007 6:57:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BIllCT

Isn't it a part of the scene that the Dom spanks the submissive who wants spanked and she gets sexually excited by it and so does he, and it leads to hot, sweaty sex in the end, or am I wrong?


I guess it depends on the sub - and if you really mean "in the 'end' " ;)

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RE: Serious Question - 10/20/2007 7:19:40 PM   
SteelofUtah


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Status: offline 		I wasn't irritated you just read me that way.

I was trying to be trite and informative at the same time.

I failed.

You have good points but as with all of them they are only opinions. As are mine. I can Admit that.

And the Slap and Tickle was a Joke, Just trying to make light of the point that you enjoy the same as him that's all.

(Smiles to show he is not irritated)

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RE: Serious Question - 10/20/2007 7:24:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

I wasn't irritated you just read me that way.

I was trying to be trite and informative at the same time.

I failed.

You have good points but as with all of them they are only opinions. As are mine. I can Admit that.

And the Slap and Tickle was a Joke, Just trying to make light of the point that you enjoy the same as him that's all.

(Smiles to show he is not irritated)

As Always

Steel

Well, in that case, .  It is so hard to take something as it's meant sometimes without hearing tone of voice and seeing the expression.  Glad you were being lighthearted and thanks for explaining.  I'm operating on about 4 hours sleep in the last day and a half and I'm not at the top of my game at the moment.  Glad you're not irritated.  Have a good one..............luci

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RE: Serious Question - 10/20/2007 9:28:10 PM   
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Isn't it a part of the scene that the Dom spanks the submissive who wants spanked and she gets sexually excited by it and so does he, and it leads to hot, sweaty sex in the end, or am I wrong?


Getting excited is fine, and even expected. It's whether or not sex is something that both parties are agreeable to or not. If the answer is no, sex has been set as a limit.... spank away and go home and beat off later; but if the hand strays from spanking, you're going to be met with a boot to the face.


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RE: Serious Question - 10/21/2007 3:59:16 AM   
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RE: Serious Question - 10/21/2007 4:58:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BIllCT
Why is it, when you meet a female submissive who likes to be spanked wheither OTK or any othe rposition of course, they expect you to spank them but not get sexually excited if your a man?
 
Isn't it a part of the scene that the Dom spanks the submissive who wants spanked and she gets sexually excited by it and so does he, and it leads to hot, sweaty sex in the end, or am I wrong?

Unserious answer, as always.

I’d like to get more out of it than just tingling hands and some subs arses are as tough as concrete.


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RE: Serious Question - 10/21/2007 5:15:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok Bill here is another example: I'm naked, standing at the sink and washing dinner dishes and Master in his warped loving mind comes over to me. He spanks my happy ass soundly til bright red ( which  by now is even more happy) and walks away. During this time, I'm still washing dishes or trying to anyways. Master says with one final swat when you finish the dishes make me a cup of coffee please..He walks away and thats it no sex.  Nice way to wash dishes though with a reddened ass!

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RE: Serious Question - 10/21/2007 5:17:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		See now, I am a loving Dom type and would assist you in washing dishes by coming up behind you and holding your tits out of the way for you.

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RE: Serious Question - 10/21/2007 5:35:53 AM   
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See now, I am a loving Dom type and would assist you in washing dishes by coming up behind you and holding your tits out of the way for you.


oh oh, what if my tits sag so bad that if I attach swiffer pads I could clean the floor?

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RE: Serious Question - 10/21/2007 5:37:42 AM   
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See now, I am a loving Dom type and would assist you in washing dishes by coming up behind you and holding your tits out of the way for you.

Ron 



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RE: Serious Question - 10/21/2007 5:39:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would stick my cock in your mouth and use it to drive you around.  But I hardly see how you could do the dishes and swiffer the whole floor at one time.

I mean I try and be helpful.

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RE: Serious Question - 10/21/2007 5:46:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

Wow and the Point of my post was lost like the lunches of people who ride the Viper in Reverse.




I am so pleased the point of your post was lost to YOU when replying to me.
That's fine. Your lost is your responsibility.
Lighten up....just because Wiki defines simething as such I do not do my life according to Wiki.

Whatever spanking is, it is......and I am not about to conform to anyone else except the one who Masters me at the moment.



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RE: Serious Question - 10/21/2007 5:51:44 AM   
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He spanks my happy ass soundly til bright red ( which  by now is even more happy) and walks away. During this time, I'm still washing dishes or trying to anyways. Master says with one final swat when you finish the dishes make me a cup of coffee please..He walks away and thats it no sex.  Nice way to wash dishes though with a reddened ass!


I can wash dishes after swipes with a cane, and not even drop a cup. Stops me even attempting to sit down until the entire apartment is cleaned.

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RE: Serious Question - 10/21/2007 7:04:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BIllCT

Why is it, when you meet a female submissive who likes to be spanked wheither OTK or any othe rposition of course, they expect you to spank them but not get sexually excited if your a man?
 
Isn't it a part of the scene that the Dom spanks the submissive who wants spanked and she gets sexually excited by it and so does he, and it leads to hot, sweaty sex in the end, or am I wrong?



Two seperate issues here.  Expectations of what a man shouild or shouldn't be experiencing while spanking a woman and should spanking be exciting sexually and lead to hot sweaty sex.

If a sub "expects" to be spanked, well the wording of that just seems off.  How can the sub have expectations as to how you are going to react to an activity?  It seems controling to me for a sub to have an experience she enjoys and also expect a certain reaction from her dom (no sexual excitement).  If sex is a limit she can expect not to have sex with him but she has no right expecting his body to react in any specific way.  i would say such a sub is a control freak.


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