Leonidas
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I have noticed some subs act like brats and get offended if they are called, what they have declared them selves to be… You are assuming that slavery (or submissiveness) is a social status. In the vast majority of the BDSM world, that isn't the case. For most women, declaring that they are submissive or slave is little different than declaring that they are heterosexual. They are simply declaring an orientation. Saying that they are hetero means they are attracted to men, but not necessarily attracted to you . They don't cease to be hetero because they aren't attracted to you . They just aren't attracted to you . Similarly, a woman who says she's submissive doesn't cease to be so because she doesn't feel submissive toward you . Is it going to piss her off if you start treating her like she does feel that way when she's given you no indication that she does? Yeah, probably. Just like it would tend to piss her off if you start treating her like she's attracted to you when she isn't, and, worse yet, calling her a dyke (thereby questioning her hetero orientation) when she corrects you. Finding someone with whom you share a mutual attraction is hard. Developing that attraction requires a certain amount of social aptitude. Some men, (and maybe you are one of them, I don't know) think that they'll have an easier time of it in the BDSM world because all they have to do is act "domly" toward a woman and she should, if she is, as you said, a "true sub/slave" immediately assume the corrisponding role. That makes no more sense, my friend, than thinking a woman ought to be attracted to you because you're attracted to her. I belong to a small sub-culture within the BDSM world where slavery is considered to be a social status. If you found yourself invited into my living room (as some on this site have) my slaves would kneel at your feet, and refer to you as "Master" and would expect that you refer to them as "slave". That, however, would have little to do with what they thought of you. It would have to do with what I thought of you (i.e. that I invited you into my home in the first place). Even among us, where slavery is a social status, you must be accepted as a free man (the corrisponding social status) by your peers before any slave (other than your own) will treat you as such. I can only assume by the fact that you're asking this question that you are new. My best advice to you if you are is that the same social graces (more or less) apply in this world that applied in the world where you came from. If you are not new, and you are still asking this question, well, that's unfortunate.
< Message edited by Leonidas -- 8/15/2005 4:07:14 AM >
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