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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 2:15:47 PM

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The simple answer is that the forum doesn't require it and most of the people here prefer open communication and exchange of ideas over dogmatic stereotypical roles that may or may not apply to most posters. I'd be very sad and disappointed in this site if it didn't encourage everyone to exchange ideas everywhere and I doubt that in any way makes me or anyone else here posting similar thoughts a "wannabe". The fact you address this question to only Masters and seem to think "females" are causing some issue or being rude is both ironic as everyone does it every forum heading here and says quite a bit about you and maybe just as you stated you are a "newbie". The fact you seem to believe that any male that carries the label "Master" has some ability to educate the masses or "enforce protocol" assumes said protocol is the same for everyone and said internet poster "Master" is competent. Neither is true.

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 3:10:23 PM

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This section is open to those wishing to ask questions of a Master, in the hope of receiving answers from that particular perspective.

It doesn't say that no one else should answer. It just says, if you hope to receive answers from a Master, THIS is the most likely place to post. When the forum is titled "For Masters Only", instead of "Ask A Master", then perhaps your gripe would be justified.

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 4:08:44 PM

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I always took the various "Ask A ..." forums to be just a way of keeping the threads organized by general topic. So the hope being that Ask A Master threads would be topics people wanted a Master to respond to. I never saw any protocol to it and I'm not sure I'd ever want to see that. I see that kind of behavior in local discussion groups and all it does is cause some pretty smart submissive people with great ideas to sit there quietly and not contribute. That just doesn't make much sense to me.

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 4:51:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: sakidorei
how do you feel about this complete disregard for the setup of this particular forum? i am not trying to cause problems but i am curious about what it says in an underlying message of the state of our -community- at this time, that there does not seem to be any regard to the clearly set up format of these boards. Do you think it's another clear indicator of our -community- that Masters are either consciously or unconciously being disregarded as Dominant voices and leaders in M/s, just as we see such a concentrated emmasculation of our men in American society? Do you see it as a disrespect and a lack of training on the part of those who disregard the clearly set up parameters of the board? Does it even occur to you or matter to you that this board is filled with female voices despite the delineation that has been set up to provide a more singular dominant male voice?

Yes, the world sucks nowawdays, now go off, form your exclusive club so you can be happy talking about how sad and pathetic we are with our diluted relationships while you go off and live your pure fabulous lives.

Everyone is encouraged to post anywhere. The forum separations are to help focus questions and discussions towards particular orientations, nothing more. If you're seeking clear orientations or people practicing some sort of protocol based on orientations, collarme is NOT the place for you and you will only make yourself and others very annoyed if you continue to make noise about it.

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 4:57:06 PM

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Different people approach problems from different directions. i may be a slave but i have life experiences and points of view that others don't... and they have life experiences and points of view that i don't. With many different ways of looking at things, you can be presented with many different options or considerations.

Adopting a role (such as submissive or top or Master or switch) does not change the value of a person's skills or experiences. And sometimes you really need to look at something from an unusual or different perspective to find the answers you are looking for.

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 5:25:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: Vanatru

If the topic of the thread is really presented for a dom/master to answer, then yeah, answers from the peanut galley are not really necessary.

Speaking as a member of that vaulted community otherwise known as the "peanut gallery," I'd have to say that how you conduct yourself in your life as a dominant and/or Master may not be, and probably is not the way my Master would conduct himself in his.

So, peanut gallery notwithstanding, I'm gonna guess that I know my Master's mind, and so his views better than you...which would make you the peanut gallery - so to speak - when it comes to me relating how we do things based on my Master's views of his world. In short, it makes neither of us right and neither of us wrong. If you choose not to post in other forums, then more power to you. If I choose to post, then I get to do that as well.

And for the OP to be setting anyone and their audacity to answer questions up as the symbolic condemnation of the "state of our community" - IF you believe in such a thing - is laughable at best.

I have a mind and I'm not afraid to use it. And, as my profile states, my Master is very aware that I post here and has no problem with it. Since he's the one I'm concerned about - not the state of some strange and amorphous "community," I'll just have to risk the OP's condemnation and being labled "the peanut gallery" by others.

And OMG!!! In expressing an opinion, I'm emasculating men?! Now that is just patently ridiculous... where would the fun be in that anyway? (hiding the dried bull scrotum basket that I keep my spare change in - I kid you not...it's a souvenier from the West End in Dallas)

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 6:05:41 PM

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I feel your Master stated it very well!!!!!!!!

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 6:10:55 PM

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If I see a post I can add information to, the I do. If it i shere in ask a Master, then so be it. I also post in aska Mistress, sub/slave, poly, and Gorean boards. I do not label myself, and se no reaosn to. I know things, and i can contribute, and so I do. Anyone overly annoyed by my lack of protocol and the inability of someone else to keep me in check *giggle* can simply ignore what I have to say.

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 6:13:52 PM

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I guess maybe the OP should know that the mods on this board are very active and if this was in fact required or an issue, we would most definitely know by now. Does that change the fact the OP is imposing their dogmatic garbage on others? nah.

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 6:16:52 PM

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Does that change the fact the OP is imposing their dogmatic garbage on others? nah.

Does anyone else feel that it was really the Master posing the question, hiding behind the sub?

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 6:29:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: sakidorei

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This section is open to those wishing to ask questions of a Master, in the hope of receiving answers from that particular perspective.

Experienced Masters are also encouraged to share their advice and knowledge regardless of if a question has been asked to prompt response. If you know the topic to be something that is often on the minds of newer people, or a subject you have found in your experience to be beneficial to address, feel free to take the initiative and open the discussion yourself
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Given the frequency that we see issues of protocol explored on the boards and in various discussions throughout the lifestyle ... i am curious about the use of this board and how Masters see it. The protocol has been given above ... This section is for those wishing to ask questions of a Master, in the hope of receiving answers from that particular perspective. Yet i see subs, switches, Dommes and slaves all posting answers here... not simply questions.

My question would be ... how do you feel about this complete disregard for the setup of this particular forum? i am not trying to cause problems but i am curious about what it says in an underlying message of the state of our -community- at this time, that there does not seem to be any regard to the clearly set up format of these boards. Do you think it's another clear indicator of our -community- that Masters are either consciously or unconciously being disregarded as Dominant voices and leaders in M/s, just as we see such a concentrated emmasculation of our men in American society? Do you see it as a disrespect and a lack of training on the part of those who disregard the clearly set up parameters of the board? Does it even occur to you or matter to you that this board is filled with female voices despite the delineation that has been set up to provide a more singular dominant male voice?

We've become so PC in our interactions ... even here in BDSM that we often don't enforce rules or bother with them for various reasons. i am sure the whole defensive posture or attacking posture can be daunting ... and i am sure there are many PC answers that can come ... "I am secure in my Mastery and it does not threaten me to have women participate here" ... etc ... but i confess i am confused. "Asking a Master" to me, implies a given understanding that a particular perspective is being sought to which rules are generally important and are enforced because it's an expression of Dominance. By nature or by test or what ever design you attribute it to ... slaves/subs/switches may seek to test those rules, boundaries, or policies. At a glance it appears that the women have completely disregarded the parameters set up for this board with little to no thought to it's intended purpose. Am i reading more into the strong presence of women answering questions here than there really is?

Perhaps it's always been this way and i, as a newbie am reading more into it than i should. However, i am not a newbie to BDSM nor other lifestyle forums in the least. It's just that one expects that in a lifestyle filled with protocol expectations ... they would be adhered to or enforced here. My Master tells me that there is a strong dillution on the BDSM community these days of strong Masters because no one wants to hear them roar. No one wants to be kept in check. Often Masters are attacked for keeping to protocol and enforcing it with others to the point that it just isn't worth the trouble. i am also wondering if there are Masters here who have experienced the same type of thing and are finding yourselves less willing to step out of Your own controlled or respected sphere of influence to try and educate the masses due to this general resistence of the community to respect the male dominant voice?

Thank you in advance for Your answers Sirs.

~saki
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I want to ask you a question out of pure true curiosity, and I have read nothing but the opening post. Do you have the same curiosity of why masters and slave/subs post on the ask a Mistress category, or that masters and female dominants occasionally post on the submissive/slave category(and don't get me started on the switches, lol, they post every where too). Or is it important to you only in this category?

I'm sorry, I just realized I was probably not supposed to answer this thread. My bad....

(The first part was a serious question.....the last part, well........it had to come out, sorry)

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 6:33:33 PM

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Does anyone else feel that it was really the Master posing the question, hiding behind the sub?

No, I get more the feeling it's the sub swallowing and regurgitating what the master has said with some encouragement on the sidelines.

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 6:35:34 PM

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Does that change the fact the OP is imposing their dogmatic garbage on others? nah.

Does anyone else feel that it was really the Master posing the question, hiding behind the sub?

No, he is just filling her head with pompous bullshit about why his 3" cock is so special and so she comes here thinking that he has gifted her with great wisdom. She just found out 3" is tiny and his wisdom only works on innocents.

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 6:41:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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Does that change the fact the OP is imposing their dogmatic garbage on others? nah.

Does anyone else feel that it was really the Master posing the question, hiding behind the sub?

He has gifted her? Oh, surely not Michael. Obviously, she has gifted him...since her submission is a gift...assuming we're following the norm character here.

*gag me with a spork*
No, he is just filling her head with pompous bullshit about why his 3" cock is so special and so she comes here thinking that he has gifted her with great wisdom. She just found out 3" is tiny and his wisdom only works on innocents.

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 6:41:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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Does that change the fact the OP is imposing their dogmatic garbage on others? nah.

Does anyone else feel that it was really the Master posing the question, hiding behind the sub?

No, he is just filling her head with pompous bullshit about why his 3" cock is so special and so she comes here thinking that he has gifted her with great wisdom. She just found out 3" is tiny and his wisdom only works on innocents.

yeah that's my thought too and the you have to follow this very strict protocol and all others that don't are WRONG and causing havoc and chaos in the world...haha...the idea is almost suggested this guy is so godly he can come Dom all of us on the forums! That I would like to see!

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 6:44:51 PM

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I truly was sincere when I asked if this was the only board you were worried about getting diluted by all us females sitting in Vanatru's peanut gallery.

edited to remove excess snarkiness

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 6:47:14 PM

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mmm...peanuts.

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 6:47:51 PM

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Damn it trapped, now I need food. Cook for me!

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 6:55:28 PM

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What the fuck do I look like, your slave?

Oh wait...

*sheepish smile*

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RE: Masters ... does it bother You ... ? - 11/12/2007 6:55:29 PM

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OP, so that I might have a better appreciation of your point of view, and the context in which this question is asked, what is the basis for your BDSM experience? And where has your Master learned what he knows?

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