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sexyred1 -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/26/2007 10:44:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MadRabbit quote: ORIGINAL: sexyred1 quote: ORIGINAL: MadRabbit quote: ORIGINAL: sexyred1 quote: ORIGINAL: denouement MadRabbit is part of the problem, not part of the solution. I kind of think they have a crush on each other, the way they keep pulling each other's pigtails. At least MadRabbit is an smart, adept writer who never bores me, while the OP has annoyed me since the initial post, LOL I annoy discrimately based on whether or not I think anything will be accomplished in the abscense of annoyance. I have to stop though. The love between Moderator11 and I isn't as strong as it used to be. Hey, nice way to take a compliment, dude! :) Thank you and those big red lips of yours make me hot. Much better.

Kalista07 -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/26/2007 10:51:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ########## MadRabbit is part of the problem, not part of the solution. Okay, the name was blocked to protect the assumed innocent (until proven guilty of course)...But the above is frankly nothing more than blasphamy......Blasphamy and propaganda i tell ya!!! And i'm not going to stand for it...No i'm not...And YOU can't make me....

laurell3 -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/26/2007 10:57:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MadRabbit quote: ORIGINAL: denouement We will have to disagree on that, sexyred1. I can barely tell the difference between them. The level of literacy of both posters leaves something to be desired. Don't worry. I will grow on you. Come on who else takes on the completely inane debates with painstaking detail? You gotta love the rabbit! (although I often suspect he's truly a masochist in a bunny costume).

AquaticSub -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/26/2007 11:35:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic how unfortunate. just when I'd thought you might be worth paying some attention to after all, you had to go and fuck it all up. freaking out over it? hardly. I came here for some suggestions...how absurd, I know. Responding to her little threat with something she'd be less happy with reflects nothing in the same ballpark as insecurity.. it was nothing more than an act to prove the point that her telling me what I 'better not do' is only going to result in me doing it. As for this being a disaster, I'm not sure I can agree with that either as the matter has long been solved. Suggestions and insight that you started insulting as soon as it wasn't to your taste.

YourhandMyAss -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/27/2007 12:07:43 AM)
That would be a major flag for me. It's been my experince when you try to stick around and be supportive after a break up it just further muddies the water. quote: ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic I'm not sure she can survive without me. she's told me in the past, on several occasions, that if it wasn't for me she'd probably be dead. Perhaps releasing her and maintaining contact, offering guidance and support from a distance would be appropriate.

MadRabbit -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/27/2007 7:16:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sexyred1 Much better. Hey...hey...who's the dominant here? Who do you think your talking to? I only gave you that "Thank You" because I wanted to and not because you made me! That's it! No more "Thank You's" so I can show you just who the biggest baddest dominant is here and I am going to spam your Collarme.com message box until you wake up at 7am tommorrow! You hear that? 7 A M!! Not 8am! 7 A M!!

TwiztdErotic -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/27/2007 7:26:08 AM)
wow. a whole night to think of something worth saying and that's all you could come up with? you really ought to seek some help for you obvious need to feel superior. What's worse, you seem to lack the ability to humiliate effectively. your efforts have only served to make yourself look foolish. If you were clever, you'd probably quote my 'often times we accuse what we ourselves are guilty of' line now..however, intelligence doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

Jeffff -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/27/2007 7:45:16 AM)
I have been following this thread....and all I can think of is..you can't save the whole world. People will learn what they need to learn....or they won't. Jeff

TwiztdErotic -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/27/2007 7:51:09 AM)
quote: People will learn what they need to learn....or they won't. Isn't it our responsibility, as human beings, to educate and enlighten those around us who so clearly need the help? This same passive attitude towards our fellow human beings is exactly the type of thing that has led to the tragic state of our current society.

SimplyMichael -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/27/2007 7:58:43 AM)
Well then kid, wake the fuck up to YOUR role in all of this and take the advice given here, much of it has been quite postive and frankly, when I was starting out, I never got advice this good, you should be grateful not pissy. As for MadRabbit, I love the guy but clearly you to got off on the wrong lucky rabbit's foot. Step up to the plate, show some class and we can all be friends. It isn't like any of us haven't fucked up our share of relationships.

TwiztdErotic -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/27/2007 8:04:12 AM)
Michael, if you've been following along you'll see that I have accepted responsibility for everything that I feel was in my power to change. Many of you have given some very good advice and offered what I would consider to be valuable insight into the matter. Do I get a little pissy when someone who either hasn't read this all the way through or hasn't even bothered to ask questions assumes they know the whole story and decides to place their judgement? yes. can you honestly blame me? no.

AquaticSub -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/27/2007 8:49:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic quote: People will learn what they need to learn....or they won't. Isn't it our responsibility, as human beings, to educate and enlighten those around us who so clearly need the help? This same passive attitude towards our fellow human beings is exactly the type of thing that has led to the tragic state of our current society. She also needs an owner who doesn't train her to behave one way and then punish her for it. Consider yourself enlightened.

sexyred1 -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/27/2007 8:51:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MadRabbit quote: ORIGINAL: sexyred1 Much better. Hey...hey...who's the dominant here? Who do you think your talking to? I only gave you that "Thank You" because I wanted to and not because you made me! That's it! No more "Thank You's" so I can show you just who the biggest baddest dominant is here and I am going to spam your Collarme.com message box until you wake up at 7am tommorrow! You hear that? 7 A M!! Not 8am! 7 A M!! What?! Oh sorry, MR, just woke up! Am I too late for my morning service?

AquaticSub -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/27/2007 8:59:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic Michael, if you've been following along you'll see that I have accepted responsibility for everything that I feel was in my power to change. Many of you have given some very good advice and offered what I would consider to be valuable insight into the matter. Do I get a little pissy when someone who either hasn't read this all the way through or hasn't even bothered to ask questions assumes they know the whole story and decides to place their judgement? yes. can you honestly blame me? no. Why not? Throughout this entire thread you have gotten very annoyed when questioned. When I was discussing puppy slaves v. slaves with others you immediately jumped in putting words in my mouth and saying that you didn't realize how "absurd" such a thing was. When people questioned the effectiveness of your punishment, you started on a rant about how we were calling it "brutal". When people disagreed with you about relationships, you said that anyone who doesn't know anything about TPE (obviously us) shouldn't comment - even though you admitted you are very new to them.

MadRabbit -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/27/2007 9:03:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic Michael, if you've been following along you'll see that I have accepted responsibility for everything that I feel was in my power to change. Many of you have given some very good advice and offered what I would consider to be valuable insight into the matter. Do I get a little pissy when someone who either hasn't read this all the way through or hasn't even bothered to ask questions assumes they know the whole story and decides to place their judgement? yes. can you honestly blame me? no. Oh what a crock of shit. Another sad case of headus insertus buttockus We apparently we must be reading different threads, because I am pretty sure around page number 2 when people started to point out how incredibly silly you are being, you crawled up in the corner and started pouting. quote: ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic ...and so begin the flame wars. Sorry folks, but I've already decided how to handle this situation. continuing to post here is pointless. You came here to find people to tell you how this is the slave's fault and not yours and any response to the contary was met with arguments, pouting, and a superiority-control-freak-complex. Sure, you made a few posts about how you were "learning" things and "listening to advice", but it was relaly nothing more than silly posturing. There is a huge difference between "hearing" and "listening". You made up your mind before words could even be exchanged and then the rest was just trying to save face and defend your own insecurities. This is why I decided you would be more fun to toy with as opposed to wasting my breath. However, SimplyMichael made me think different and I took the time to write a very long post telling you like it is. What did you do in response? quote]ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic quote: you have to think "Okay...this is what she did...she's not perfect....what can I do to help correct this?" perhaps my memory just isn't as good as I think it is, but isn't that exactly what I did? Isn't that why this thread exists to begin with? quote: ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic quote: Isn't that why this thread exists to begin with? Aside from my main goal, which was to posture, of course. [:D] You took the 2-3 sentences that struck a chord with your small ego and reacted in a trite and defensive way with an "I already know it all" attitude. A whole essay of advice and you only responsed to the 2% of it that made you feel small. You can piss and moan, accuse everyone of flaming, posture to try and keep face, and made empty claims to how you have humbled yourself and taken advice here. Unfortanely, some of us know bullshit when we see it and thats about 90% of what you have posted. Bullshit. (If you were really as "high and mighty" as you make yourself out to be, then you would be smart enough to realize that all these insecure and weak responses you are giving me when I am just pushing your buttons is spoon feeding the sadist in me.)

Jeffff -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/27/2007 9:13:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic quote: People will learn what they need to learn....or they won't. Isn't it our responsibility, as human beings, to educate and enlighten those around us who so clearly need the help? This same passive attitude towards our fellow human beings is exactly the type of thing that has led to the tragic state of our current society. Actualy......I was speaking of you Jeff

TwiztdErotic -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/27/2007 9:18:16 AM)
quote: Throughout this entire thread you have gotten very annoyed when questioned. When I was discussing puppy slaves v. slaves with others you immediately jumped in putting words in my mouth and saying that you didn't realize how "absurd" such a thing was. When people questioned the effectiveness of your punishment, you started on a rant about how we were calling it "brutal". When people disagreed with you about relationships, you said that anyone who doesn't know anything about TPE (obviously us) shouldn't comment - even though you admitted you are very new to them. Considering most of these questions could have been answered if the inquirer simply took the time to read through my posts and maybe, just maybe, take a little time to think about it for themselves, yes..I do tend to get a little bit annoyed. Case in point; the puppy vs slave fiasco. Seeing how those of you who questioned the effectiveness of the punishment were the same who suggested I do exactly what I did do, I think I had plenty of reason to be annoyed there as well. "if she acts in a manner displeasing to you, ignore her" Me: so I put her in a corner and ignored her. Could I have ignored her without placing her in the corner? certainly. However, seeing as she was acting out because she didn't want to wake up, leaving her in bed and ignoring her so that she could fall right back to sleep isn't going to teach her a damn thing either, is it? No, that would be rewarding her for bad behavior, which you've already pointed out to be a bad idea. As for asking people who aren't familiar with TPE not to comment on a TPE relationship..what's wrong with that? Do I ask a duck about the affairs of a camel?

AquaticSub -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/27/2007 10:09:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic quote: Throughout this entire thread you have gotten very annoyed when questioned. When I was discussing puppy slaves v. slaves with others you immediately jumped in putting words in my mouth and saying that you didn't realize how "absurd" such a thing was. When people questioned the effectiveness of your punishment, you started on a rant about how we were calling it "brutal". When people disagreed with you about relationships, you said that anyone who doesn't know anything about TPE (obviously us) shouldn't comment - even though you admitted you are very new to them. Considering most of these questions could have been answered if the inquirer simply took the time to read through my posts and maybe, just maybe, take a little time to think about it for themselves, yes..I do tend to get a little bit annoyed. Nobody was asking you questions in those cases. I was discussing puppy slaves v. slaves with another person and you immediately decided we were calling pupply slaves absurd. Your punishment was evidently not effective as it did not get you the behavior you wanted nor does it seem to have taught her anything. Nobody had called your punishment brutal, you decided we thought that because we didn't agree with your course of action. quote: Case in point; the puppy vs slave fiasco. Seeing how those of you who questioned the effectiveness of the punishment were the same who suggested I do exactly what I did do, I think I had plenty of reason to be annoyed there as well. "if she acts in a manner displeasing to you, ignore her" Me: so I put her in a corner and ignored her. Could I have ignored her without placing her in the corner? certainly. You don't have to put someone in a corner to ignore them. You ignore them by doing just that - ignoring them. Pick up a book, play a game or go on a walk. quote: However, seeing as she was acting out because she didn't want to wake up, leaving her in bed and ignoring her so that she could fall right back to sleep isn't going to teach her a damn thing either, is it? No, that would be rewarding her for bad behavior, which you've already pointed out to be a bad idea. Ignoring her wouldn't be rewarding her. Rewarding her would have been getting her out of the bed and making her service you. Punishment doesn't have to be immediate with people, one way a puppy slave is easier than a real puppy. If we were in your situation and he wanted to punish me, Valyraen would let me go back to sleep and wake up on my own time. When I got up, I would find that he was busy and would not interact with me easily. He would not accept service from me either until we discussed what had happened and he felt I had learned something. quote: As for asking people who aren't familiar with TPE not to comment on a TPE relationship..what's wrong with that? Do I ask a duck about the affairs of a camel? No, but you were very clearly saying "Those who have given advice and disagree don't know a damn thing about TPE because I know what TPE is, this is what it is and if you don't agree with that, you don't know what you are talking about".

DesFIP -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/27/2007 10:21:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic Isn't it our responsibility, as human beings, to educate and enlighten those around us who so clearly need the help? People have been trying to educate and enlighten you since your op and it hasn't worked. Right now the line about not teaching a pig to whistle comes to mind. Wastes the teacher's time and annoys the pig.

AquaticSub -> RE: open for response until 7am est (11/27/2007 10:22:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP quote: ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic Isn't it our responsibility, as human beings, to educate and enlighten those around us who so clearly need the help? People have been trying to educate and enlighten you since your op and it hasn't worked. Right now the line about not teaching a pig to whistle comes to mind. Wastes the teacher's time and annoys the pig. Oh I dunno. He learned that if you give someone what they want it counts as a reward.

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