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ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic

So it's 5AM and I'm wide awake. I decide to wake puppy up for a little early morning service. Her reaction, quite simply, is unacceptable. Due to situational constraints, corporal punishment is not an option at such an early hour. (we live in neighboring states and are at her apartment because she's got to work in the morning. her father, for some unknown reason, is asleep on the couch just outside the door.) In an effort to avoid making too much noise, I decide to place her on her knees facing the corner in the hopes that she'll soon realize her mistakes and attempt to make amends. This doesn't happen, of course and soon she's throwing a little fit about being woken up. (she's never been a morning person) Not wanting the situation to escalate, because of potential noise and the father outside the door, I decide to send her back to bed and tell her that she's displeased me and will be expected to make it up to me later. this stupid, stupid puppy has the balls to say 'you better not wake me up at 8am' my response, quite naturally, is 'ok, I'll see you at 7, then.' Was this a mistake on my part? Normally, I'd just take her at this point, regardless of her protests and her attitude would be dealt with. After all, her purpose is to please me, which certainly doesn't include throwing a fit about being woken up. We've found ourselves in similar situations before and afterwards she breaks down and apologizes for the way she acted and expects that to be sufficient. This is a trend I wish to end, so..I'm looking for any advice that may lead to a solution. Keep in mind, noise will have to be a factor. Although I could wake her up with a gag..
Your thoughts?

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ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic

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Oh I'm just waiting to see if he agrees that the d-types who post in "Ask a Submissive/Slave" should have their mouths filled as well or if he suggests we run the owners out with pitchforks.

not at all. However, if you don't have anything valuable to contribute then why bother wasting your time when you weren't asked in the first place?

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ORIGINAL: julietsierra

Sooo...what would you have done if, instead of growling at you like someone who'd just been woken out of a sound sleep, she'd actually have had the presence of mind to safeword? Would you have continued regardless of the word used? Or would you have stopped?juliet

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Funny. You were respectful and polite when I pointed out how you rewarded her bad behavior.

And, by the way, if you want to keep us submissives from answering your questions find a different forum. The mods have out and out said they don't care and I don't submit to anyone but Valyraen. Which means I don't care where you want me to post.

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ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic

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Funny. You were respectful and polite when I pointed out how you rewarded her bad behavior.

And, by the way, if you want to keep us submissives from answering your questions find a different forum. The mods have out and out said they don't care and I don't submit to anyone but Valyraen. Which means I don't care where you want me to post.

you misinterpret me. I'm not saying that I don't want to hear from slave/subs or anyone else at all. By all means, if you've got something of substance to contribute then feel free to share it. My question is; if you DO NOT have anything worthwhile to contribute, why bother?

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One would assume CD that you would not get into a TPE situation with someone that has an untreated mental disorder and would not condone another for attempting to use that dynamic in lieu of therapy and medical treatment.

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ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic

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One would assume CD that you would not get into a TPE situation with someone that has an untreated mental disorder and would not condone another for attempting to use that dynamic in lieu of therapy and medical treatment.

What do you see here that is so worthwhile? it contributes absolutely nothing to the topic, offers no great insight, advice, nor asks any worthy question. The only thing it does is illustrate the fact that she hasn't read the previous posts.

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Edited to add: I did in fact read all the posts, you seem to ignore the ones where you spout off about how horrible she is for having an untreated mental illness.

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ORIGINAL: laurell3

Honestly I don't blame him for being angry about it.  It's something he's frustrated with and he does seem to care about her, although about 24 hours ago he did call her a piece of shit and said he doesn't care about her needs, and he does seem to respond inappropriately when challenged at all, so who knows?  However, the simple fact remains right now d/s and/or bdsm is not something this girl needs.  Professional help and lots of it and to do it for HER is what she needs.

Edited to add:  I did in fact read all the posts, you seem to ignore the ones where you spout off about how horrible she is for having an untreated mental illness.

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ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic

Honestly, laurell, do you have a problem absorbing information or are you just that miserable in life that you feel compelled to belittle everyone else? Both this thread and my other thread state very clearly that she will be seeing a specialist. she has an appointment tomorrow.
Notice that this thread is posted in the 'Ask a Master' section and not 'Ask a submissive/slave'. If you don't have anything valuable to contribute, remain silent. you're probably much cuter with your mouth shut (or full) anyway.

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ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic
At any rate, all of this seems rather redundant. For me to argue with people who could offer much more than a condescending post, and for you to continually get on my ass for finding myself in a tough spot is just silly. All of us are capable of being a little more productive at the moment, so..let's end the nonsense.

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Wonderful. I take it you'll be refraining from the "cuter with a full mouth" comments from now on?

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TwiztdErotic,

Something just occured to me....You do know that if You end the BDSM side of the relationship with this girl You are not abandoning her right? i mean You do know that the fact that the healthiest thing for the both of You being to let each other heal and grow, has nothing to do with Your worth as a person, a man, or a dom, right? You also know that the fact that You can't "fix" her or "help her" the way that she needs to be helped has nothing to do with You as well.....Right?
Kalista

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Edited to add: I did in fact read all the posts, you seem to ignore the ones where you spout off about how horrible she is for having an untreated mental illness.

And you seem to ignore the post where I say that I wasn't fully aware of the magnitude of the problem until this thread had already blown up.

At any rate, all of this seems rather redundant. For me to argue with people who could offer much more than a condescending post, and for you to continually get on my ass for finding myself in a tough spot is just silly. All of us are capable of being a little more productive at the moment, so..let's end the nonsense.

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ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic

Kali,

Taking a break from D/s and taking some time to focus on ourselves is something that's been brought up between us quite a few times already. It is not something that I am opposed to, as I have felt it is what was needed for some time. It is due to her desire and perhaps even need for guidance, direction and oversight that has caused us to come back to it again and again. Let's be honest, it's not the easiest thing to refuse the submission of someone you love, especially when you know her so well and have seen what happens when she's left to her own devices. We've had this talk several times over the last few days and she seems hellbent on keeping some level of D/s in our relationship. she feels that it, along with professional help and an active effort to get better will help her. I would like to believe that it would, although I do know that she may not know what's best for herself. I know that I can't fix her all by myself, but I refuse to believe that I can't help at all. As for any of this having to do with myself as a man, dom or a person, that's never been one of my concerns. Honestly, I'm not too worried about myself in this situation.