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ORIGINAL: carlie310

DarkDaddy, I must disagree.  CPS operates under a different set of rules, completely outside the Constitution.  All it takes is a phone call, and that starts an investigation that can last for years, scarring the children that the agency is supposed to protect.  States get federal money for every child in foster care, so they have incentive to take the kids. 

Don't take my word for it, but do research in your own state.  It won't take much of a google search to turn up some incredible story about people fighting for their kids because they are poor, had an argument with the school or doctor, or a neighbor.  It's horrific.

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ORIGINAL: carlie310

DarkDaddy, I must disagree.  CPS operates under a different set of rules, completely outside the Constitution.  All it takes is a phone call, and that starts an investigation that can last for years, scarring the children that the agency is supposed to protect.  States get federal money for every child in foster care, so they have incentive to take the kids. 

Don't take my word for it, but do research in your own state.  It won't take much of a google search to turn up some incredible story about people fighting for their kids because they are poor, had an argument with the school or doctor, or a neighbor.  It's horrific.

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ORIGINAL: carlie310

DarkDaddy, I must disagree.  CPS operates under a different set of rules, completely outside the Constitution.  All it takes is a phone call, and that starts an investigation that can last for years, scarring the children that the agency is supposed to protect.  States get federal money for every child in foster care, so they have incentive to take the kids. 

Don't take my word for it, but do research in your own state.  It won't take much of a google search to turn up some incredible story about people fighting for their kids because they are poor, had an argument with the school or doctor, or a neighbor.  It's horrific.

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ORIGINAL: carlie310
DarkDaddy, I must disagree.  CPS operates under a different set of rules, completely outside the Constitution.  All it takes is a phone call, and that starts an investigation that can last for years, scarring the children that the agency is supposed to protect.  States get federal money for every child in foster care, so they have incentive to take the kids. 

Don't take my word for it, but do research in your own state.  It won't take much of a google search to turn up some incredible story about people fighting for their kids because they are poor, had an argument with the school or doctor, or a neighbor.  It's horrific.

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ORIGINAL: laurell3

Internet research for horror stories is rarely a valid source to make a generalization about anything.  Child abuse reporting and investigation is mandatory in most states.  It includes almost all professionals, schools, providers, etc.  CPS will investigate every call whether that means going to the home, calling her, checking for law enforcement contacts, talking to the kids/school/daycare or offerring voluntary services really depends on the circumstances.  Removal is not done by cps.  It is initiated by cps but done by the Court and requires a finding that the children are at risk for harm or experiencing real harm/neglect. 

While it is true that states get federal money for families in the system, it's not just in foster care, it's voluntary services, children placed at home with services, children in foster care, group homes, correctional centers, etc. and the system is overwhelmed by the amount of cases and reports they have to work on.  They are not actively looking for people to persecute on their own.  However, any system can go wrong, I sure there are true horror cases and sometimes foster care can be worse than the situation the children were removed from.  The system is far from perfect, however, it's a mischaracterization to say that the majority of the cases are unfounded or some type of consipracy or unfounded removal.