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Also curious at what point does it become "forcing someone to observe a sex act", and not just "indulging the kink of exhibitionism, even when the bystanders have not expressed informed consent or like-mindedness"? I`m of the mindset that those two definitions are pretty much one in the same...

When it's pushed into someones face.  People wear short skirts all the time and some of those people do so because its sexy to them, it makes them feel sexual, it is an act of sexual intent.  How is that a straw man ?  Not one person is suggesting that people go out and stand in the middle of a public park on a saturday in the middle of summer and give anyone a blow job in front of the crowd, but people tend to just say - well 'I am in a consensual relationship and I dont do public acts of non consent ever-ever' when they do - all the fricking time.  And just because one is a short skirt walking down the road and one is a long drawn out kiss with tongues in the privacy of a shaded tree doesn't make one any better or less sexual than the other.
 
It's really nothing more than people saying 'my kinks better/safer than yours' - but the thing I find is that people that say they only do consensual things in public really believe what they do doesn't touch others somehow and to me that's an incredibly scarey concept that people view themselves as basically devoid of responsibility.
 
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"I understand those who have problems with this." Was actually the quote I was referring to, where you admit you understand other people have a problem with what you are doing, and chose to do it anyways. I don`t particularly care how you feel about it, if you`re going to continue doing it one way or another.

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"He has exposed me to an unsuspecting public..." I was pretty sure this gives a basic understanding of what the act in question was?

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And I certainly do not consent to all the smokers, screaming children/teenagers, and fashion victims that rape my lungs, ears and eyes every day. Can I sick julia on them? Oh do I wish I could sometimes. But no, wait, I can just leave and not choose to be in their presence. It is a free country for them as well as me, and I'd never wish to violate their freedom to share the public space within the law.

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ORIGINAL: ClubMix
The question that keeps coming to my mind is why you keep referring to indecent public exposure like it`s a basic right? The right to dress how you want is not the same as fingering your cunt at a guy walking past the window of a restaurant. Handing out literature about Jesus is not the same as getting a blowjob in a well-populated public park. This is basically a straw man argument, and I don`t really think it`s applicable. Please don`t liken intentional sexual exposure to more benign, socially acceptable acts to engage in while in public. They are not the same, by any stretch.

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Why does the right to perform sex acts in public supersede the right "to share the public space within the law"(not be exposed to illegal sex acts)?

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"I certainly don't feel it is right to expose others to fluids or intentionally force them to observe sex acts."
"To sum up, I think public acts, even sex acts, can be discreet and responsible and still indulge the kink of exhibitionism, even when the bystanders have not expressed informed consent or like-mindedness."

Also curious at what point does it become "forcing someone to observe a sex act", and not just "indulging the kink of exhibitionism, even when the bystanders have not expressed informed consent or like-mindedness"? I`m of the mindset that those two definitions are pretty much one in the same...

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Well you edited your original post to me and changed it to say others have problems with it.  I recall your original post referenced me having a  problem with it and doing it anyway.

I do what I am required to do.  I do not pick and choose what I will submit to and what I do not.  That is not how my slavery works.  I said I understood those who had problems with this, meaning I understood those who were posting their opinions on this thread.  So far, no member of the public (and it has been a very small group) has mentioned having a problem with it; on the contrary, they were quite amused.

In the edit of your post, you bolded "as far as you know."  Since this public I was talking about were either room service waiters entering our hotel room, or people in other adult surroundings, I am 100% confident there were no minors present.  In fact, my Master makes it a point to ensure nothing he does with me that may be deemed questionable can be witnessed by any minor. 

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"He has exposed me to an unsuspecting public..." I was pretty sure this gives a basic understanding of what the act in question was?

Well, I suppose.  Still, I don't think anyone has been traumatized by viewing a DD breast.  That's pretty much the extent.  Oh wait - there was the time I had to wear a skirt without panties to a restaurant and sit with my skirt hiked so that my bare ass was on the chair (he moved me to a corner seat - out of the line of sight of a minor a few tables over, before requiring this).  The waiter saw the part of my thigh that my napkin didn't cover.   Somehow he kept coming over to my side of the table to take our order and deliver items to our table...

Like I said - calculated risk.  Not a huge deal to me, but thank you for the Good Luck wishes.


Edited to add - I find it ironic how passionate people are about public exposure, as I am remembering my mouth being raped when I was 14, by a 20 year old man.  We were in a public park - families abound - I was struggling and crying, and not one person complained, came by to stop it, or called for help.  I think less people care about public displays than we think.

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Edited to add - I find it ironic how passionate people are about public exposure, as I am remembering my mouth being raped when I was 14, by a 20 year old man. We were in a public park - families abound - I was struggling and crying, and not one person complained, came by to stop it, or called for help. I think less people care about public displays than we think.

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But now I have a new question... What semi public tasks have you been made to do, or would like to try.  I am looking for new ideas.  Hope to hear from everyone soon!

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It is relevant because you find wearing short skirts ok, others don't - it offends them. Hearing sex occuring through your next door neighbours walls offends others.  The thought of someone having oral sex in a secluded location offends someone else.  Wearing a low cut top, showing ankles, kissing in public, holding hands - all these things are offensive to someone and using the excuse that because its illegal or offensive or non consensual just doesn;t cut it.  Wearing a beard in public in the city of london is actually illegal - its a bygone law that hasn;t ever been revoked.  Some people feel beards are offensive for countless reasons... but people still have them and still do it despite all that.  I don't find public displays of affection wrong or nasty or any worse than the countless amount of women I see enter a public toilet, do what they need to do and then just leave without washing their hands.
 
The relevancy is that it happens and if you see it, by all means report it.  But those that say they never do anything that isn't consensual is lying to themselves and everyone else.
 
And as for your definition of exhibitionism -

• Websters- a tendency to display one's abilities or to behave in such a way as to attract attention.
  
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• Oxford - extravagant behaviour that is intended to attract attention to oneself
  
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• MerriamWebster - the act or practice of behaving so as to attract attention to oneself

The definition you gave is a medical definition - a psyc one.  You have misrepresented two peoples words now and used wiki to try and do it to one of them.  If you are going to do that, at least use a more reliable source.
Not once has anyone said it is right or encouraged sexual acts of 'fingering cunts'.  In fact, the only people talking about such practises are the people so set against PDA's.  Again, typical media-type hype.  But some people are suggesting that if it's done, do it knowing the consequences - just like any act that people may do - legal, illegal, sexual or non sexual.
But hey - whaddya gonna do?
 
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Webster's:
Exhibitionism
1 a: a perversion in which sexual gratification is obtained from the indecent exposure of one's genitals (as to a stranger) b: an act of such exposure
2: the act or practice of behaving so as to attract attention to oneself
I was working by the second definition (drawing attention by street legal kink clothing and flaunting polygamist lifestyle), and the first definition in the absence of observers (exposing or engaging in sex acts in a public space is exciting and feels 'exhibitionist' to me, even if no one actually sees.)