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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/14/2007 4:14:24 AM

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Hey sexyone !

Yeah, I was talking about that thread - my thought is that it doesn't matter whether it's camping or not - it's still outdoor sex and you can still be caught out. I have been out at night taking people in my care out late at night to the woods and to a forest on owl hunts, bat walks and star watching. What I am suggesting is that you just never know who may be closeby and one location isn't any safer or better than another and it's just good to be aware what might happen so then you can only be responsible for your own actions.

I really appriciate you coming back debating tho, which is why you totally rock imo.

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/14/2007 5:34:12 PM

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The OP - to me - did clarify her position.

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Ok, so many of you helped me realize mine and my masters plan was not thought out as well as it should be. I want to thank you all for that!

Now, to me that indicates that she saw that the other post was negative in it's responses and that maybe a sexual act in public wasn;t the way to go.

I didn't interpret her comment as no sexual acts in public. I interpreted it as not having sex in a movie theater only.

She could have asked what were totally discreet ways to heighten sexual tension in public and gotten tons of answers. She didn't. All she said was she wasn't going to go down on him in a movie theater with someone watching from the next aisle.

And that's why lots of us are looking at this thread with a jaundiced eye, because she doesn't seem to get it about not deliberately doing things in public that the general public would find offensive and might get you sex offender status.

If her thoughts were otherwise, then I would hope she would clarify.

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/15/2007 1:20:59 PM

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there is no way I would engage in nonconsensual kink.

I did not post on the other thread because others stated everything I had to say about it....

I will say here that in my opinion taking chances of exposing others to our kink is repulsive to both of us... this is a hard limit for him and it is outside of his ethical boundaries... while it isn't rape exactly, it is still possible to be forcing someone to take part in your scene without their consent.

Part of the thing about semi public (and to be honest I do not even know what "semi-public"means, it is either public or it isn't. It is a word game to make it seem better than it is. It is like saying "she is a little pregnant") is the risk of being caught is the actual thrill of it... I just do not play games with other people that did not agree to them...

Thank you for keeping your wits about you when it comes to things like this. And thank you for having enough respect for others not to ocularly rape them. :) I`m glad at least a few out there still have the ability to respect others and their boundaries.

To those who not only accept but encourage and engage in that level of selfishness and disregard for others, shame on you. I can only hope your friendly local law enforcers can get you off the streets and smacked with a sex offense-related record, as you so rightly deserve, before somebody is exposed to your distasteful behavior.

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/15/2007 1:54:41 PM

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ocularly rape

<3

(...and I agree with what got snipped. I just love language containing vivid imagery and couldn't resist calling that bit out.)

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/15/2007 3:39:56 PM

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<3

(...and I agree with what got snipped. I just love language containing vivid imagery and couldn't resist calling that bit out.)

^-^ Glad someone likes my weird terminology! And by the way, I dig your screen name. Way to reclaim the "piece of meat" phrase lol!

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/15/2007 7:10:09 PM

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Off topic, why did my font size suddenly enlarge itself? I didn't change anything?

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/15/2007 8:11:23 PM

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Because sometimes the quoted person's font becomes yours. Stephann is a good example. If you can figure out how to fix it, let us know.

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/16/2007 5:21:25 AM

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Because sometimes the quoted person's font becomes yours. Stephann is a good example. If you can figure out how to fix it, let us know.

In the 'reply to message' box there is a font button with a red X over it just under the smileys to the far left and it is supposed to remove all font formatting. My Lord says just highlight the area and then click on that button.

I have a different way to do it, but he said that works too *g*

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/16/2007 10:16:23 AM

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Kyra, are you talking about that AA with the red X above the Bold B? Because I can't seem to highlight it and clicking it doesn't do anything that I can see.

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/16/2007 12:02:01 PM

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Highlight your words, then downsize them. There is a size tab on the box. The font can be changed and by default is Times New Roman size 3.

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/16/2007 12:20:25 PM

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Yeah, I know my font is contagious; sorry for that. I've been using the Georgia font for nearly a decade online in message boards and chat rooms. I make use of it through a tag that says:

[ font = georgia ] before I type any message (no spaces.)

The way you can fix that is either

a) Highlight the text you're typing, and click the red and blue icon directly above the large B (it's just to the left of the drop down box that says "Font Face")

b) Highlight the text you're typing and click the 'Font Face' drop box, and then click 'Times New Roman" followed by clicking that large B. That will change it to unbolded, Times New Roman (the default font for these message boards.)

No, I won't stop using the Georgia font. I was probably here before you anyway

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/16/2007 1:56:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

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ORIGINAL: laurell3

Because sometimes the quoted person's font becomes yours. Stephann is a good example. If you can figure out how to fix it, let us know.

In the 'reply to message' box there is a font button with a red X over it just under the smileys to the far left and it is supposed to remove all font formatting. My Lord says just highlight the area and then click on that button.

I have a different way to do it, but he said that works too *g*

Knight's Kyra

Thanks Kyra and Stephann and dark. I wasn't suggesting you change it Stephann, I just didn't know how to change it!

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/16/2007 2:12:11 PM

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~ Fast Reply ~

Intersting thread. I did not see the posts that were removed, and I suppose that is just fine. I respect julia's passion about what she feels and believes, whether or not I share her convictions. I also loved the "ocularly rape" terminology!

I am uncomfortable imposing some of the things Master does with me on others. But he is my priority over others, and over my own convictions, regardless. He has exposed me to an unsuspecting public (minus minors). It made me uncomfortable while it amused him. Part of his amusement and pride is to see me do things that make me uncomfortable, simply because he requested it. The things he has had me do have been uncomfortable, but not extreme or over the top, and have been done with consideration of the risk involved. Since I am his property before anything else, I wrap my mind around such things by reminding myself I am the "object" and it is HE who is doing these things. If I suffer the misfortune of getting in trouble, we will both have to live with the consequences of his decisions for me. I might not like it, but that does not stop me from doing his will.

He is a good man. He happens to be a good man who does things others do not always appreciate. I already know this, and it is something I can live with.

As for having orgasms in public - take your pick. I have had orgasms at many a Starbucks, Raleys, at work, in front of family and friends, and while getting a pedicure. One simply masters the ability to orgasm without being recognized as such. I've been asked, "Are you ok?? Why is your face so red? Are you breathing ok?" and I have come up with answers that have satisfied the inquiring party. Do I enjoy this? Well, I enjoy the amusement it gives my owner. I would not enjoy it as something to do on my own, however.

I understand those who have problems with this. I have my own opinions about it, of which my Master is aware. He does not do these things often, but he does them, and I oblige because my commitment is to him above all else. His satisfaction comes from my willingness to do this for him, despite my own convictions and consequences. Does he put me at risk? Sure he does. He puts me at risk with many of the physical ways he uses me. But it is a calculated risk, and one he accepts as part of the package. Obviously I accept it, too.

Everyone has convictions they are passionate about (or at least many people do). Not everyone shares the same passions. I have convictions I am passionate about, which at times conflict with my Master's. For the most part, he does not push me to do such things. While public exposure is uncomfortable for me, it is not one of my passionate issues, so he will do it from time to time. Conversely, there are things he is passionate about which I am not, so I will not be experiencing those things as he has no interest in doing them.

I suppose it's what makes each of us unique.

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/16/2007 9:06:16 PM

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It is your prerogative to submit to the will of a man who has so little respect for others. I`m glad you can live with the fact that you submit an unsuspecting public (minus minors, as far as you know) to your sex life, and hope that being someone else`s property gives you solace to the fact that you are, in fact, forcing something sexual on another human being. It really rubs me the wrong way, though, that you even admit that people "have a problem" with what you`re doing, and you do it anyways.

Good luck on the whole scraping by with a "calculated risk" thing. Just know that there are people out there, myself included, who would still call the cops and turn you over to them, and force you to live with a criminal record for the rest of your life. Mull that over in your head, having to explain at your next job interview why you have a sexually-related offense.

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/16/2007 9:34:57 PM

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Personally I agree with the.dark and Scyn. There are infinite things that could offend people, we can't possibly account for all of them and they should not interfere with our freedom of expression. I do enjoy exhibitionism, but there are things I am not comfortable with.

One is breaking the law in a situation where I have a non-negligible chance of getting caught, simply to avoid a record, not because I blindly believe that law=morality. But I'm fine with being flogged in private (which is against the law since one can't consent to assault legally), and with fucking on a secluded beach when there is not likely to be anyone around and people can be seen approaching far away.

I also don't feel comfortable exploiting people. I don't agree with initiating active participation from someone who isn't fully informed and consensual to the activity. Nor would I be comfortable misrepresenting myself to encourage participation or consent in order to indulge my kink.

I certainly don't feel it is right to expose others to fluids or intentionally force them to observe sex acts. I admit, I do enjoy sex acts in deserted or discreet public places, but I am conscious and responsible to minimize the risk of exposing others, especially minors, and always with enough forethought to be able to 'get decent' before actually 'ocularly raping' anyone. The potential of the need to do that is exciting though, and the taboo of a public place even with virtually 0 chance of getting caught, that is the 'reward' (for whoever asked what is in it for the sub early in the thread).

I also enjoy raising eyebrows with non-illegal, non-explicitly-sexual acts. Just as activists raise eyebrows with dramatic demonstrations, religious enthusiasts, artists, whatever. Not everyone will agree with the message, some may be offended, and yes, I enjoy that because I enjoy broadening people's minds to the point of discomfort. The kind of thing I'm talking about here is wearing a collar or street-legal kink clothing in public, going out arm-in-arm as a poly triple (vs. couple) and exchanging publicly appropriate kisses etc. between the three of us the way a vanilla couple might between two, and seeing the strange looks we get... Am I a bad person for enjoying the reactions to such things? Maybe I am. But I do consider it educating closed-minded people in self expression.

To sum up, I think public acts, even sex acts, can be discreet and responsible and still indulge the kink of exhibitionism, even when the bystanders have not expressed informed consent or like-mindedness.

And I certainly do not consent to all the smokers, screaming children/teenagers, and fashion victims that rape my lungs, ears and eyes every day. Can I sick julia on them? Oh do I wish I could sometimes. But no, wait, I can just leave and not choose to be in their presence. It is a free country for them as well as me, and I'd never wish to violate their freedom to share the public space within the law.

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/16/2007 9:38:49 PM

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You put "have a problem" in quotes as though I said that as pertaining to myself. I did not say that, as I do not have a problem with it. Being uncomfortable with something does not equate to having a problem with it. There are a lot of things I might find uncomfortable, but I do anyway, because it is his will.

But thank you for your well wishes, however insincere they may have been. As I said, some people are passionate about some things, and some people are passionate about other things. It makes us each unique. Unless of course we should all believe as one homogenized group. I personally don't think we should.

And yes, I have been the recipient of undesireable behavior by others. I lived through it without any trauma. What my Master has me do on rare occasion is quite mild. You are in an upheaval without even knowing what it is.

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/16/2007 10:01:49 PM

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And I certainly do not consent to all the smokers, screaming children/teenagers, and fashion victims that rape my lungs, ears and eyes every day. Can I sick julia on them? Oh do I wish I could sometimes. But no, wait, I can just leave and not choose to be in their presence. It is a free country for them as well as me, and I'd never wish to violate their freedom to share the public space within the law.

If I may add to this - picketers outside the stores I have shopped in, survey takers in malls, Jehovahs Witnesses at my front door, telemarketers on my phone, political petitioners outside stores, panhandlers in the street (Santa Cruz had to pass panhandling laws because people were so verbally assaulted), uncontrolled children in restaurants, adults swearing their heads off at sports events...and the list goes on.

Nothing like driving to the slot car races with my nephews the other day (6 and 9) and passing anti-abortion protestors holding up picket photos of torn apart bloodied fetuses.

At least they didn't see a nipple, eh?

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/17/2007 3:07:57 PM

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You put "have a problem" in quotes as though I said that as pertaining to myself. I did not say that, as I do not have a problem with it. Being uncomfortable with something does not equate to having a problem with it. There are a lot of things I might find uncomfortable, but I do anyway, because it is his will.

But thank you for your well wishes, however insincere they may have been. As I said, some people are passionate about some things, and some people are passionate about other things. It makes us each unique. Unless of course we should all believe as one homogenized group. I personally don't think we should.

And yes, I have been the recipient of undesireable behavior by others. I lived through it without any trauma. What my Master has me do on rare occasion is quite mild. You are in an upheaval without even knowing what it is.

"I understand those who have problems with this." Was actually the quote I was referring to, where you admit you understand other people have a problem with what you are doing, and chose to do it anyways. I don`t particularly care how you feel about it, if you`re going to continue doing it one way or another.

"He has exposed me to an unsuspecting public..." I was pretty sure this gives a basic understanding of what the act in question was?

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/17/2007 3:36:34 PM

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Personally I agree with the.dark and Scyn. There are infinite things that could offend people, we can't possibly account for all of them and they should not interfere with our freedom of expression. I do enjoy exhibitionism, but there are things I am not comfortable with.

One is breaking the law in a situation where I have a non-negligible chance of getting caught, simply to avoid a record, not because I blindly believe that law=morality. But I'm fine with being flogged in private (which is against the law since one can't consent to assault legally), and with fucking on a secluded beach when there is not likely to be anyone around and people can be seen approaching far away.

I also don't feel comfortable exploiting people. I don't agree with initiating active participation from someone who isn't fully informed and consensual to the activity. Nor would I be comfortable misrepresenting myself to encourage participation or consent in order to indulge my kink.

I certainly don't feel it is right to expose others to fluids or intentionally force them to observe sex acts. I admit, I do enjoy sex acts in deserted or discreet public places, but I am conscious and responsible to minimize the risk of exposing others, especially minors, and always with enough forethought to be able to 'get decent' before actually 'ocularly raping' anyone. The potential of the need to do that is exciting though, and the taboo of a public place even with virtually 0 chance of getting caught, that is the 'reward' (for whoever asked what is in it for the sub early in the thread).

I also enjoy raising eyebrows with non-illegal, non-explicitly-sexual acts. Just as activists raise eyebrows with dramatic demonstrations, religious enthusiasts, artists, whatever. Not everyone will agree with the message, some may be offended, and yes, I enjoy that because I enjoy broadening people's minds to the point of discomfort. The kind of thing I'm talking about here is wearing a collar or street-legal kink clothing in public, going out arm-in-arm as a poly triple (vs. couple) and exchanging publicly appropriate kisses etc. between the three of us the way a vanilla couple might between two, and seeing the strange looks we get... Am I a bad person for enjoying the reactions to such things? Maybe I am. But I do consider it educating closed-minded people in self expression.

To sum up, I think public acts, even sex acts, can be discreet and responsible and still indulge the kink of exhibitionism, even when the bystanders have not expressed informed consent or like-mindedness.

And I certainly do not consent to all the smokers, screaming children/teenagers, and fashion victims that rape my lungs, ears and eyes every day. Can I sick julia on them? Oh do I wish I could sometimes. But no, wait, I can just leave and not choose to be in their presence. It is a free country for them as well as me, and I'd never wish to violate their freedom to share the public space within the law.

The question that keeps coming to my mind is why you keep referring to indecent public exposure like it`s a basic right? The right to dress how you want is not the same as fingering your cunt at a guy walking past the window of a restaurant. Handing out literature about Jesus is not the same as getting a blowjob in a well-populated public park. This is basically a straw man argument, and I don`t really think it`s applicable. Please don`t liken intentional sexual exposure to more benign, socially acceptable acts to engage in while in public. They are not the same, by any stretch.

Why does the right to perform sex acts in public supercede the right "to share the public space within the law"(not be exposed to illegal sex acts)?

"I certainly don't feel it is right to expose others to fluids or intentionally force them to observe sex acts."
"To sum up, I think public acts, even sex acts, can be discreet and responsible and still indulge the kink of exhibitionism, even when the bystanders have not expressed informed consent or like-mindedness."

Also curious at what point does it become "forcing someone to observe a sex act", and not just "indulging the kink of exhibitionism, even when the bystanders have not expressed informed consent or like-mindedness"? I`m of the mindset that those two definitions are pretty much one in the same...

(And no, I don`t blindly agree that just because something is illegal, that makes it wrong. It`s just an added perk for me personally that this specific type of act is illegal.)

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RE: Semi-public task part 2! - 12/17/2007 4:08:36 PM

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Also curious at what point does it become "forcing someone to observe a sex act", and not just "indulging the kink of exhibitionism, even when the bystanders have not expressed informed consent or like-mindedness"? I`m of the mindset that those two definitions are pretty much one in the same...

When it's pushed into someones face. People wear short skirts all the time and some of those people do so because its sexy to them, it makes them feel sexual, it is an act of sexual intent. How is that a straw man ? Not one person is suggesting that people go out and stand in the middle of a public park on a saturday in the middle of summer and give anyone a blow job in front of the crowd, but people tend to just say - well 'I am in a consensual relationship and I dont do public acts of non consent ever-ever' when they do - all the fricking time. And just because one is a short skirt walking down the road and one is a long drawn out kiss with tongues in the privacy of a shaded tree doesn't make one any better or less sexual than the other.

It's really nothing more than people saying 'my kinks better/safer than yours' - but the thing I find is that people that say they only do consensual things in public really believe what they do doesn't touch others somehow and to me that's an incredibly scarey concept that people view themselves as basically devoid of responsibility.

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