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ORIGINAL: ClubMix
Good questions!
Thank you!
You know, ClubMix, I actually do understand some of your concerns and I appreciate your replies here. I still do not understand how you came to the conclusion of genital exposure to minors, and perhaps you do not wish to answer that, but it's all good. As I have said before, I respect that different people are passionate about different things. This does not mean, however, that I will adhere to everyone's passions, but I really do understand them.
If I may (of course I may!) comment on some of your replies:
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1.) Yes, I sometimes seek out and purposely view R rated movies in my own home, or in a theater full of age-appropriate patrons, who also sought out, and are purposely viewing said R rated movie.
Fair enough. What is your opinion of the gazillion homes now that have cabel or satellite television with a gazillion different channels that anyone - adult or minor - can surf and stumble upon any sort of naked or profane content? Should we ban them?
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2.) Can`t say that I have.
Damn - you're missing some good TV! 
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3.) Can`t say that I did. Did the "T&A" session show explicit body parts, such as, oh, I dunno, a DD breast, complete with nipple? Did the show in question come with a warning? Did they specifically say "this could be offensive" before the show started? Was there a rating for the program in the TV guide? Were people given every indication of what was to come, and did those who still chose to view it, indeed choose to do so?
Yes, Sex and the City showed full tit shots. Yes, NYPD Blue showed full ass shots. NYPD Blue had a disclaimer of "adult content and nudity" (an ABC station) , although Sex and the City did not (HBO). Disclosure or not, however, anyone could flip through channels and come across this stuff, and not by choice.
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4.) Yes, I go to public places where "socially-unacceptable body part", including nipples, are kept covered by bikini`s.
Do you consider exposed ass cheeks as socially unacceptable?
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5.) No. I really don`t see why this question is even being asked? I hardly think a blacked-out, non-explicit silhouette of a woman if sexually offensive. Tacky, maybe by some standards, but other than that, unremarkably socially acceptable.
I asked this because in my extreme right wing Christian days I loathed these things and found them highly offensive. I remember one truck had two of them back-to-back, giving the image of a full frontal girl with her legs spread. It certainly wasn't something I wanted to explain to my very young nephews at the time, as we drove on by.
I agree with you about tacky.
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6.) Context, my dear. I`m bisexual. I fuck women. When I make the desicion to have sex with a woman in the privacy of my own home, am I offended when she takes her shirt off? Sweet goddess, no. Do I get offended when a female friend of mine takes her breast out to feed her child in front of me? No. Because it`s entirely non-sexual for a woman to feed her child, and nobody is getting their rocks off at the fact that I can see her nip. If I was hanging out somewhere and some random stranger of a woman showed me her boob to make the dick of her "boyfriend/dom/husband/whatever" hard, would I be offended? You`d better believe it. A breast itself is not particularly obscene to me, but it can definitely become that way if it`s used in an intrusive, offensive manner.
I appreciate this answer "my dear" lol. It really sums up what the issue is. It's time and place, apparently. And this is where our opinions diverge. For you, time and place determines whether it is sexy or offensive. Same body part, same image. A nipple can either be sexy, native (think National Geographic), medical, natural (breast feeding) or offensive. And quite honestly, I can not wrap my mind around this kind of thinking. I understand it is an issue for others. But even if I tried to make it an issue for myself, I could not. It all boils down to time and place, opinions and attitudes. There is no "act" being done. There is no "fluid" being emitted. There is no trauma being inflicted on anyone. What it boils down to is a nipple in the bedroom is acceptable, a nipple on the cover of National Geographic is acceptable, a nipple in a biology book is acceptable, a nipple to feed an infant is acceptable (to some but not all), but a stand-alone, just hanging out there nipple for someone to see, is offensive. That is how I am seeing this, which is why it makes me uncomfortable to hang out, but it doesn't disturb me. There is no harm being done to anyone, other than to appear distasteful.
I have suffered worse at ball games. Or in rush hour traffic!
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7.) Nipple. Sorry, but in our society, the nipples of a female are considered a "no-no" in public.
Sometimes they are, sometimes they are not. See above.
Speeding is also a no-no.
Swearing is also a no-no.
And the list can go on.
Again, I appreciate your replies. I do not write with the intention of trying to change your mind about this; I know I won't, just as you will not change mine. But I am enjoying the discourse, and hope you are, too.
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but here is the reasoning behind why I see it that way.By the end of the other thread her views on it seemed to have changed, and she seemed to be questing for ideas that were similiar in nature without going as far as her previous thread went. This thread opened with her saying that it wasn't well thought out and she was looking for new ideas, new ways to go about 'semi-public' but in a way that didn't make it an open and obvious act.
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