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Behavior - 12/16/2007 10:49:21 AM

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Do You feel that your subs behavior reflects on You? Sometimes i read posts more frequent than not where the subs ridicule, attack, insult, put others down, and are just so ugly and vulgar in what they write to those who do not deserve it and i was just wondering as a Dominant what is Your opinion about subs that do that? Besides the obvious they are immature and probably lonely and bitter. Would You mind if Your sub acted that way?

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 10:56:24 AM

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If I may give my two cents worth....

I do feel my behavior is a direct reflection on my Sir. I didn't realize this until others were "so ugly and vulgar in what they write to those who do not deserve it" I knew I had to step back and "think" instead of react to them... if I hadn't done this, I would have been just like them. My Sir and I have had the conversation and He does believe that I'm a reflection on Him in my daily interaction with others.

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 11:00:29 AM

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Terrific post! i feel the same way.My behavior definitely reflects on him. That's why i always try to conduct myself putting my best foot forward. For me, and him and for the others. It makes life a lot nicer and it doesn't hurt anyhone unjustly and it, pleases my Owner. what more could a sub ask for? :)

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 11:05:58 AM

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I know for a fact that I am a refection on my owner. I have friends who have spoken with my owner on very few occassions, but have a lot of respect for him, simply because of the love and devotion I have for him and how they see me behave and speak.

The people who are snarky, here or any other place, probably have a different mind set. Maybe their owner is snarky as well or perhaps it's just not as important to them.

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 11:14:18 AM

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Now that you mention it for those who do have Dominants maybe they are worse or just the same. i have noticed though that the ones who start the most trouble are without a current partner. i guess we all have to suffer for that.

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 11:45:21 AM

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I started out taking care of other submissives as I was being trained. If they misbehaved or behaved poorly, I would be the one in trouble. It is my responsiblity as a dominant person to make sure that whoever is under me is behaving appropriately at all times because it is a reflection on me and how I have trained them to behave.

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 11:50:18 AM

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How very true. i also believe that their behavior is one of the main reasons they are alone. Of course i am sure they won't agree with me for it's always the other person's fault.

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 11:55:42 AM

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How very true. i also believe that their behavior is one of the main reasons they are alone. Of course i am sure they won't agree with me for it's always the other person's fault.

Leading by example is always a good thing. My Sir conducts Himself in a manner I'm proud to mimic.

girly

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 12:00:39 PM

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While I am happily owned, I am soley responsible for my behavior and reprocussions thereof. Master trusts me to do what I feel and think is acceptable.

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 12:27:36 PM

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Do You feel that your subs behavior reflects on You? Sometimes i read posts more frequent than not where the subs ridicule, attack, insult, put others down, and are just so ugly and vulgar in what they write to those who do not deserve it and i was just wondering as a Dominant what is Your opinion about subs that do that? Besides the obvious they are immature and probably lonely and bitter. Would You mind if Your sub acted that way?

I am a reflection of his influence, guidance and training. I respect him by conducting myself in a way that he finds appropriate and pleasing. This does not mean I can not express my opinions, or that I can not have opinions that differ from his.

But to say a submissive is a direct reflection of his/her Dominant is not entirely fair. What if the relationship is relatively new? What if he/she is still learning and growing in that relationship and in his/her submission? Lots of factors at play, which are not always considered. However, I believe we are most influenced by those with whom we are closest. So it is likely safe to say a submissive's conduct is influenced by his/her Dominant, but not necessarily a direct reflection of him.

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 12:37:44 PM

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I'm not a dominant, however I think in some ways it certaintly does reflect, I see some people who're owned and speak quite rudely and attack others for no reason, and I think my god don't their doms teach them to act with any manners or class, or I think if they were my sub they'd definatly be taught a major lesson on minding ones own tongue. I do not put up with others who're with me attacking people, exspecially for no reason.

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ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07

Do You feel that your subs behavior reflects on You? Sometimes i read posts more frequent than not where the subs ridicule, attack, insult, put others down, and are just so ugly and vulgar in what they write to those who do not deserve it and i was just wondering as a Dominant what is Your opinion about subs that do that? Besides the obvious they are immature and probably lonely and bitter. Would You mind if Your sub acted that way?

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 12:40:23 PM

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My submissive is an individual, not a mindless robot. In fact, I get a particular pleasure when my little girl emasculates some know-it-all dom that contacts her, thinking he can assume control of her, despite her being collared by me.

When she participates in a discussion and a twue dom is throwing around idiotic statements as fact, I am very proud when she puts said dom down with a few well-placed words, just like I would have.

Most of the vulgarness and the ugliness I've seen on this forum has, in fact, come from single doms, ready to generalize ridiculous things about all submissives, or send quite horribly insulting messages on the other side. Submissives who aren't doormats shouldn't take that sort of behaviour lying down, in my opinion.

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 12:43:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07

Do You feel that your subs behavior reflects on You? Sometimes i read posts more frequent than not where the subs ridicule, attack, insult, put others down, and are just so ugly and vulgar in what they write to those who do not deserve it and i was just wondering as a Dominant what is Your opinion about subs that do that? Besides the obvious they are immature and probably lonely and bitter. Would You mind if Your sub acted that way?

Oh you mean like how your behavior reflects back on your owner when you comment that you don't see a lot of submission in the subs here or insult someone because their avatar isn't really their lips?

Quite frankly, you do the exact same thing you complain about. You simply do it while attempting to put yourself up on a pillar as better.

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 12/16/2007 1:16:07 PM >

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 12:46:47 PM

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i agree in those cases, but this particular thread is only about people that hurt, demean and are cruel, attacking others for no reason. i for one enjoy it too when jerks get put in their place.

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 12:54:02 PM

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Mine certainly don't or wouldn't act that way. I used to stay in the chat rooms a lot, and I had a slave then, and sometimes she would get in some argument or something and I'd *snap* my fingers. she would quit. if the protagonist didn't quit, I would tell my slave to put that person on ignore and I would talk with that person's Dom/Master/Owner. It usually ended.

It is a reflection on me and I won't have it. If it is something worth the fuss, I will enter the fray, not my sub/slave. Then it gets a bit more serious. But usually its not really more than a petty argument and can be easily ended.

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 1:02:47 PM

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actually a few of the people I wonder about being allowed to be snots to any one they wish claim to be owned. They're not single. course one can claim anything online, I realize.

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ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07

How very true. i also believe that their behavior is one of the main reasons they are alone. Of course i am sure they won't agree with me for it's always the other person's fault.

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 1:12:25 PM

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Do You feel that your subs behavior reflects on You?

Every dominant is going to have the exact submissive/slave that s/he desires based on their own abilities to lead. When a submissive or slave steps out of line in a way which is displeasing it is up to the dominant to correct that behavior. If such behavior goes uncorrected, then I would think it's safe to assume that such behavior falls in line with the dominants expectations.

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Sometimes i read posts more frequent than not where the subs ridicule, attack, insult, put others down, and are just so ugly and vulgar in what they write to those who do not deserve it and i was just wondering as a Dominant what is Your opinion about subs that do that?

I think you will find that utilizing your block button will be quite a bit more effective than starting threads complaining (in the disguise of asking) about behavior that won't change simply due to the nature of, mostly, unmoderated message boards.

I am curious as to your thoughts on such behavior if you would deem a particular poster 'is' deserving of such treatment? It is okay in that instance?

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Besides the obvious they are immature and probably lonely and bitter.

Do you feel this sentence added some sort of value or substance to your post? To me, it just makes you look bad and you would do well to steer clear of such projection. Pot, kettle, black, taken.

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Would You mind if Your sub acted that way?

Perhaps you should ask that question of your Master and ask him if he minds it when you behave in that way? I'd be curious as to the answer.

Celeste

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 1:17:35 PM

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i agree in those cases, but this particular thread is only about people that hurt, demean and are cruel, attacking others for no reason. i for one enjoy it too when jerks get put in their place.

Well, this answered my question and I can only say, that my own Masters standards would not allow for that sort of behavior in any instance and if I were to exhibit such, I would be banned from posting.

::shrugs::

Celeste

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 1:17:56 PM

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Yes I think it does, however what pleases me may not,.....probably will not please another. An here online? it would not reflect on me at all

Jeff

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RE: Behavior - 12/16/2007 1:29:41 PM

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I am not a Dom/Master but...
If my dog ran around the neighbourhood, crapping all over and biting others...
If my children were misbehaved, rude and obnoxious at school or with friends...
If my car was constantly in a state of mess and filth...
If my staff or crew was rude, shirking work, lying or stealing...
If my SO (in a 'typical' nilla type) was overly flirtatious, openly slutty, uncaring of others...
Would that not all be reflective of me, my ability to teach and guide, my upkeep, my treatment, my authority.....?

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